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[ulantan]

Yeah, great game but what have they produced since?

No body is putting out yearly releases

 

[fart town usa]

One of the games I've enjoyed the most, I lost all hopes of a sequel since it bombed but now I'm completely saying good bye to it, the small spark that was already left just fade away

I mean, I get the others and that lots of those people being moved to other teams, but why Tango?

It sucks . The potential of Tango exclusives to Xbox is what kept the door open for me. Xbox just slammed the door in my face.

 

[GHG]

“They are only human”
“ Toxic console war”
“ Haters”
“He saved the brand”

"Sony have made it difficult for them to survive"

"consumers are sheep"

 

[Buggy Loop]

she cute , how could you phil

Didn't she leave Tango a while ago?

That's why. Phil's waifu is not even in the acquisition. Close the fucking thing down

 

[Mr Moose]

Avoid hate comments for MS. Its a platform holder.

I will copy all hate comments here then when your favourite plastic box company will do this, will paste them there with name changed.

And call you a bootlicker on top.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

It sucks . The potential of Tango exclusives to Xbox is what kept the door open for me. Xbox just slammed the door in my face.

HiFi was my favorite game last year, I can safely admit it now.

 

[Buggy Loop]

After all the Sony hate from helldiverss you would think MS might play it cool for a while.

Sony "Ouf, that was a tough weekend, WTF guys? Good thing we fixed it on monday"

Microsoft "Tough weekend?"

Microsoft "How about a tough gen"

 

[PropellerEar]

Avoid hate comments for MS. Its a platform holder.

I will copy all hate comments here then when your favourite plastic box company will do this, will paste them there with name changed.

And call you a bootlicker on top.

 

[NickFire]

Buying a third party dev, artificially reducing their customer base by making their games console exclusive and free at launch for subscribers, and then firing them after sales were lackluster is just mean and cold hearted.

 

[Little Chicken]

Detecting major 'Scalebound would have sucked anyway' energy from this post

If Microsoft had acquired SEGA we'd get remakes of Phantasy Star I, II, III & IV and a proper PSV sequel.

 

[FF:Enhanced_Reality]

Pretty sure they'd all be open if they weren't acquired by Microsoft.

 

[THE DUCK]

It's not about just closing studios. Studios get closed all the time.

It's about why this is happening. Microsoft created a model in GamePass that devalued games. People warned that it would lead to studio closures. Then they bought ABK, and again people were warned about what the result of this would be.

Redfall was a disaster, but it probably shouldn't have been released when it was. It was released because Microsoft needed it to be released. The same with Starfield. Both games were already delayed and Microsoft couldn't abide additional delays for games that aren't actually going to sell but just be added to GamePass.

The only way to make GamePass profitable is to increase subs or decrease costs... So if subscriptions aren't increasing, what do you think will happen?

Microsoft first started with doing away with big 3rd party exclusives and now the only thing left to do is to close studios that aren't performing or the talent has already left, but eventually it will cave in on itself.

They're about to release a number of games that are all going to disappoint: Hellblade, Avowed, Indiana Jones, Perfect Dark... a lot of these studios are going to get closed.

Turn10 is also on red alert...

That's a whole bunch of bs. Ms closes one studio that released a turd and one small studio and now your saying some of thier largest and most talented groups will be axed? Please.

Gamepass has nothing to do with any of this, there is constant pressure on all devs to deliver games that people play, regardless of how they pay for them.

Releasing sub standard games will result in less sales, just like releasing sub standard games on gamepass yields you less subs.

 

[skyfinch]

Mother Fuckers. I should have kept my Google Stadia. At least Stadia made me happy.

 

[Punished Miku]

Buying a third party dev, artificially reducing their customer base by making their games console exclusive and free at launch for subscribers, and then firing them after sales were lackluster is just mean and cold hearted.

Ghostwire, Hi-Fi Rush, and Deathloop all bombed on PS5. I honestly think the main thing they had going for them was GP money.

 

[jorgejjvr]

Didnt they say hifi rush was a success??

 

[LordCBH]

Didnt they say hifi rush was a success??

Chief Mouth Breather Aaron Greenberg said it smashed all expectations.

 

[GHG]

Releasing sub standard games will result in less sales, just like releasing sub standard games on gamepass yields you less subs.

But do you know what leads to more substandard games?

Defending substandard games, promoting their substandard games and constantly making excuses for them.

Congratulations, you're very much part of the equation.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

If Microsoft had acquired SEGA we'd get remakes of Phantasy Star I, II, III & IV and a proper PSV sequel.

Delusional.

 

[Mr Moose]

Ghostwire, Hi-Fi Rush, and Deathloop all bombed on PS5. I honestly think the main thing they had going for them was GP money.

Not according to Greenberg and co.

 

[Jigsaah]

I'm curious how much of Tango will be reallocated to different studios.

Microsoft is bloated. That is undeniable. Let's see folks be so willing to be acquired after this. It would be the equivalent of sending your studio out to pasture.

I imagine Undead Labs will be next on the chopping board after State of Decay 3 is released. They haven't put out a damn thing since being acquired.

This is what happens when you buy failing studios and have preactically zero oversight on them. How lazy and disinterested can you be?

 

[FunkMiller]

Get fucked Phil, you absolute waste of space.

Microsoft's proifts are gargantuan. What kind of fucking asshole shutters so many game devs, when there's so much money sloshing about in the company?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Releasing sub standard games will result in less sales, just like releasing sub standard games on gamepass yields you less subs.

And what do you think happens when they're releasing fantastic games and gamepass is still stays within the 30 million sub range and barely moves

 

[IDKFA]

I will copy all hate comments here then when your favourite plastic box company will do this

Feel free to do so, but honestly I wasn't aware Tupperware owned video game developers?

 

[MDSLKTR]

Closing ID would be a roman empire moment.

is Timdog okay?

He made out like a bandit and is even losing weight, his foresight should be studied by some here.

 

[Punished Miku]

Not according to Greenberg and co.

That honestly doesn't bother me like it seems to bother other people here. The guy is in charge of marketing, and he's trying to put a positive spin on engagement numbers. That's what he's supposed to do. It's not his job to comment on sales numbers or to call things a failure and drive interest lower. Saying it's popular helps the game's chances. They're trying to convince people to check the game out through sub or sale.

And the post you quoted from me was talking about PS5. I haven't heard anyone hardly speak of the game since it released there. On Xbox there was huge buzz about it. Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think they've said a word about how it did on PS5.

 

[Topher]

Right but it's a small title, nothing new even announced and their last big success was The Evil Within?

Suddenly.....Hi Fi Rush is getting downplayed by Xbox fans. I don't get it. Microsoft knew damn well what Tango was working on. If Microsoft wanted a "big title" then they should have told Tango to scrap Hi Fi Rush and make a big title.

 

[AV]

That's a whole bunch of bs. Ms closes one studio that released a turd and one small studio and now your saying some of thier largest and most talented groups will be axed? Please.

Gamepass has nothing to do with any of this, there is constant pressure on all devs to deliver games that people play, regardless of how they pay for them.

Releasing sub standard games will result in less sales, just like releasing sub standard games on gamepass yields you less subs.

... Were you not awake when Forza Motorsport released? It had a completely middling response and debuted at #17 in the NPDs below The Crew: Motorfest before falling off.

Most people played it on Game Pass, didn't enjoy it, and moved on. They're very much going to be in the crosshairs.

 

[TheMan]

Pretty baffling, especially Tango. Maybe Hifi had a target to hit in ps5 and it didn’t hit? And as for arkne…yeah redfall was a colossal fuckup but with their pedigree they could have bounced back with their next game.

I think with so much money dumped into ABK they’re just gonna focus and leveraging that (which for some reason they’ve barely done) and then trim the fat.

 

[mortal]

Wasn't Tango their only Japanese studio?
So much for Xbox's commitment to Japanese devs and games...

 

[LordCBH]

And what do you think happens when they're releasing fantastic games and gamepass is still stays within the 30 million sub range and barely moves

Didn’t they actually lose subscribers when they rebranded Gold? They had what like 25 million, merged 11 million Gold subs into Gamepass by rebranding Gold, and somehow resulted in like 34 million total.

 

[TehGoomba7s]

Pretty sure they'd all be open if they weren't acquired by Microsoft.

Their games would actually be selling and not shoved on a subscription service for engagement. Engagement doesn't equal profits.

 

[poppabk]

Man that is both shitty and dumb. You don't get rid of a celebrated company even if they aren't bringing in the money or engagement. When your image is already in the toilet, you don't flush.

 

[FunkMiller]

Sony "Ouf, that was a tough weekend, WTF guys? Good thing we fixed it on monday"

Microsoft "Tough weekend?"

Microsoft "How about a tough gen"

Fuck me, so right.

Just as Sony make themselves look like greedy ass clowns of the highest order.... along comes Phil with something a thousand times worse.

Fuck 'em both.

 

[MDSLKTR]

Avoid hate comments for MS. Its a platform holder.

I will copy all hate comments here then when your favourite plastic box company will do this, will paste them there with name changed.

And call you a bootlicker on top.

Now I understand why you were so virulent in the helldivers thread

 

[Duchess]

Serious question: is Hi-Fi Rush being pulled from sale?

 

[Buggy Loop]

Chief Mouth Breather Aaron Greenberg said it smashed all expectations.

They expected to sell 1 copy

 

[Zheph]

They're losing Colt...

Time to take the blue pill and join his old pal

 

[Topher]

Serious question: is Hi-Fi Rush being pulled from sale?

No

 

[jshackles]

Serious question: is Hi-Fi Rush being pulled from sale?

No, but don't expect any future updates.

Or a sequel.

 

[Punished Miku]

Serious question: is Hi-Fi Rush being pulled from sale?

You should expect it will eventually just from all the licensed music. But probably not for a while. I bought it a while ago for this reason.

 

[LordCBH]

Fuck me, so right.

Just as Sony make themselves look like greedy ass clowns of the highest order.... along comes Phil with something a thousand times worse.

Fuck 'em both.

Like right before their big Xbox showcase too. How they gonna convince the world they know what they’re doing when they close a well-liked studio that released a critically loved game right before hand?

 

[Topher]

They expected to sell 1 copy

That one is never going to get old

 

[THE DUCK]

Except no one really gives a shit about Austin being closed, so your argument falls flat on its beak.

But do you know what leads to more substandard games?

Defending substandard games, promoting their substandard games and constantly making excuses for them.

Congratulations, you're very much part of the equation.

If your referring to games like halo infinite and forza motorsport, I happen to enjoy them and don't find them to be substandard. I'm not alone. Redfall on the other hand......
And as much as hifi rush is beloved here, it had limited appeal, I personally didn't care for it.

 

[Mr Moose]

That honestly doesn't bother me like it seems to bother other people here. The guy is in charge of marketing, and he's trying to put a positive spin on engagement numbers. That's what he's supposed to do. It's not his job to comment on sales numbers or to call things a failure and drive interest lower. Saying it's popular helps the game's chances. They're trying to convince people to check the game out through sub or sale.

His job is a professional liar, got it. Must've came from the same school as Spencer.
I didn't buy Hi-Fi Rush myself, I'm not into rhythm games, but I really enjoyed Ghostwire and Evil Within was decent from what I've played of it. Was hoping to get some more Ghostwire.

 

[Aion002]

Pretty sure they'd all be open if they weren't acquired by Microsoft.

I also believe that.

If Hi-Fi Rush was also released on the ps4, ps5 and switch at launch and not on gamepass, it would sell a lot more and get a lot more attention from everybody.

 

[Banjo64]

No mate, Gamepass is profitable. Its not about that, it's about producing content that generates interest and excitement that people want to play. Redfall for instance was disastrous, that very few actually played or enjoyed.

Hilarious.

Your very first line:

Studio's that don't make money, don't produce games that make money will always be in danger

Now it’s about interest and excitement.

They can’t make money because they are hamstrung by Microsoft’s shitty business model.

 

[tommib]

Serious question: is Hi-Fi Rush being pulled from sale?

Why would it?

 

[LordCBH]

They expected to sell 1 copy

Damn I should’ve bought 3 copies, woulda kept them afloat a few more months.

 

[Jigsaah]

Mikami got out like the ninja he is...good for him.

 

[THE DUCK]

And what do you think happens when they're releasing fantastic games and gamepass is still stays within the 30 million sub range and barely moves

What exactly makes you think that's the case?
Lack of console sales may put a ceiling on it, but the same thing happens for traditional sales. It's the same.