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[SlimySnake]

Give Microsoft a break, they need to shutter the studios as they need the money. Being worth over 3 trillion dollars get you nothing these days...

This is the part that upsets me the most. All of these sillicon valley companies and gaming companies like Sony and Nintendo are posting record profits. Nintendo hasnt laid off anyone but sony just did any why? What the fuck are these guys doing? They need to invest MORE into these studios.

If Arkhane was not able to make games themselves then they shouldve been turned into a satellite studio for Bethesda to help make Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. Same goes for Tango Gameworks. Dont get rid of talent FFS.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

May we please revisit the discussions of how great it will be for so many developers to be owned by Microsoft. And that this was a win for all consumers?

Fucking clowns

 

[Redneckerz]

Wait isn't Arkane the creator of Dishonored, Prey, and Deathloop...?

Isn't it one of the best FPS creators of today?

HOLY SHIT.

And tango too.

Buying companies just to close them WTF man

Its not that Arkane. That was Lyon.

Austin made Prey 2017 and the aforementioned Redfall.

Arkane Studios - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[jshackles]

 

[damiank]

Is that a Booty call?

 

[Sintoid]

Is there stilla any Microsoft Fanboy out there?

 

[Thief1987]

I think it will be wise for the developers at Turn10 to look for a new job already, because writing is on the wall for them. They for 7 years developed a game which was even bigger flop than HFR, and HFR has very warm reception from the players, flopza doesn't have even that. Though maybe they could make skins for COD, who knows.

 

[Ogbert]

Phil Spencer is the absolute fucking pits.

He's a complete moron that doesn't care about video games. He just wants to grow share price and he's fucking shit at that too.

He is a shining example of how poor you can be at senior levels. Incompetent clown.

 

[Topher]

This is the part that upsets me the most. All of these sillicon valley companies and gaming companies like Sony and Nintendo are posting record profits. Nintendo hasnt laid off anyone but sony just did any why? What the fuck are these guys doing? They need to invest MORE into these studios.

If Arkhane was not able to make games themselves then they shouldve been turned into a satellite studio for Bethesda to help make Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. Same goes for Tango Gameworks. Dont get rid of talent FFS.

Exactly. These corporations should spin these studios off into their own company. Instead they kill them off but cling to all the IP that they will never fucking use again. It's pathetic.

 

[Neff]

Name a fucking shittier company.

Can't.

I am genuinely moved

Detecting major 'Scalebound would have sucked anyway' energy from this post

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

But i thought MS acquiring all these publishers and studio was a good idea?

I thought Gamepass was great for smaller titles like Hi-Fi Rush?

How the mighty have fallen.

How can a company be so mismanaged and everyone can still keep their jobs except for everyone that's working on actual studios? How the fuck is Phil still head of Xbox?

As someone that's not on Xbox's ecosystem, i have no idea what MS's plans are for their gaming division.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

This is the part that upsets me the most. All of these sillicon valley companies and gaming companies like Sony and Nintendo are posting record profits. Nintendo hasnt laid off anyone but sony just did any why? What the fuck are these guys doing? They need to invest MORE into these studios.

Look on the brightside. We're getting a $26 billion paramount aquisition instead.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Forgot to post this earlier:

 

[Radical_3d]

I guess you are right.

is our fault MS spent 100B in five years just to not have games and when they have, they are still trash


is our fault .... WE DIDN'T GAVE XBOX A DAMN CHANCE and now Sony's monopoly is closing Xbox studios.

Ey chorizo, you should have bought the games that are in their service for 1$ a whole month. Not the physical, tho. That’s the past and owning something digital is proven to be pretty safe as the crew players know. Also it’s sometimes cheaper. So let this be a lesson to you all: subscribe to gamepass and buy the 120€ digital deluxe edition with 3 days early access and digital art book*.

*: conditions apply.

 

[Puscifer]

Consolidation is great

Yeah, these closings really end the whole Gamepass and developer creative freedom argument. Stuff like Hi Fi Rush should've been getting made with all that monthly income from the service, but nope.

I halfway thought it was going to be a troll article going into it.

 

[YOU PC BRO?!]

Wait a second? Wasn't Hi-Fi Rush one of the games Microsoft just launched on the PS5?

Trust Microsoft to close down a studio that actually made a decent game. It probably raised the bar and made the rest look bad. These are exactly the kind of decisions that make me glad to have recently sold up and ditched Xbox.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I think it is likely that many will have gone there or to Unseen.

Poaching is pretty common place when new studios are built out.

Tango was never that big in the first place, it can't afford an exodus of a lot of employees. We'll see once these studios put out their games if the staff are the same.

The most important staff at Tango were director John Johanes and game designer Masaaki Yamada. I'm really interested to see if they end up at Unseen or Kamuy to keep that kind of game design alive.

posted yesterday and now deleted LMAO

She's the kind of person that would fit right in at a communist committee. Go against the party: no job for you!

 

[XXL]

Everybody losing their shit but you don’t buy the games

Neither do 99% of the most extreme Xbox fanboys.

GamePass was a fucking disaster.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Dont they make call of duty skins or something? Theyre as safe as it gets.

Toys for bob are Sisyphus.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I haven’t played AoE4. But 2DE was indeed sick as fuck.

You should play aoe4. It rules.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

subscribe to gamepass and buy the 120€ digital deluxe edition with 3 days early access and digital art book*.

that's seems like a move a very smart person would make. but I'm too retarded.

 

[Esppiral]

Arkane ... Ok, but Tango? Wtf

 

[begotten]

The shutdowns aren't stopping here unfortunately. Just you wait...

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

Everybody losing their shit but you don’t buy the games

Which Microsoft encourages. All they care about are Gamepass subscriptions, right?

So which part of this plan isn't working?

 

[leizzra]

Hellblade 2 better sell gangbusters.

Well we all know that it won't because of Game Pass release (on top of the fact that it's not a blockbuster type of game). If they won't release it quickly for PS5 then there is no chance. Also Mikami left Tango few month prior to shutdown. Tameem Antoniades made the move recently... .

I seams that MS will gather around biggest IP's from ActiBlizz and Bethesda (MS has Halo, Gears and Forza still but they are in crippled state). How's that for Game Pass? Or their turn into biggest third party publisher, as many are speculating?

 

[Audiophile]

Official response from Microsoft

I think I had three aneurisms trying to get my head round that clunky corporate speak word salad.

 

[R6Rider]

Its not that Arkane. That was Lyon.

Austin made Prey 2017 and the aforementioned Redfall.

Arkane Studios - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Should also be noted that 75% (roughly) of the team that made the amazing Prey left during development of Redfall.

 

[Dr_Salt]

Mikami knew.

 

[near]

Its not that Arkane. That was Lyon.

Austin made Prey 2017 and the aforementioned Redfall.

Arkane Studios - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

While Arkane Lyon still exists, a lot of talent is being consolidated into Bethesda from the Austin studio. Dishonored was conceived and built at Arkane Austin, Prey is also a solid game. Harvey Smith and Raphael Colantonio have shared duties with leading both Lyon and Austin studios at different times, together and solo. Redfall killed a solid studio, I think this is being a little understated.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Arkane Austin I get, Redfall was a mess all over, but Tango? Evil Within 1 and 2 were good games and they just had a huge hit in Hi-Fi Rush

I agree but HI FI wasnt a huge hit . XBox should have allowed the studio to make another horror game mind.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Anyone with two eyes could see the Arkane Austin closure coming. As for Tango Gameworks, it sucks but it seems they were lying about how happy they were with HFR's sales.

Grubb was right all along

All the doubters said he was full of shit and MS went into damage control mode too

 

[Buggy Loop]

Fucking fire Spencer. I can't believe the mismanagement at Xbox

 

[AV]

The way things are going, the landscape is going to be insanely massive blockbusters and home grown, low budget indie games, with nothing in-between.

We're kinda witnessing the death of the b-game here. Avowed absolutely isn't going to move the needle financially regardless of how good it is and Obsidian will probably be next in the firing line - unless they give them the Fallout licence to shit out a spin-off as soon as they humanly can.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

How else are they going to fund all the new controllers coming out

Why do they need all these special edition controllers with no games to play though?

 

[KaiserBecks]

Should also be noted that 75% (roughly) of the team that made the amazing Prey left during development of Redfall.

That's good to know. Any idea where they went?

 

[Topher]

Fucking fire Spencer. I can't believe the mismanagement at Xbox

"It really sucks that I had to fire......wait what's his name?"

"Bob"

".....Bob. Hated firing Bob. He was like a brother to me....."

 

[eerik9000]

This is Jim Ryan's fault. Phil Spencer is the saviour of gaming. Give Aaron Greenberg a promotion, also.

 

[R6Rider]

That's good to know. Any idea where they went?

No idea. I don't remember hearing anything about forming a new studio as is somewhat common.

 

[EviLore]

The way things are going, the landscape is going to be insanely massive blockbusters and home grown, low budget indie games, with nothing in-between.

We're kinda witnessing the death of the b-game here. Avowed absolutely isn't going to move the needle financially regardless of how good it is and Obsidian will probably be next in the firing line - unless they give them the Fallout licence to shit out a spin-off as soon as they humanly can.

Same thing happened to the movie industry. Consolidation into a handful of cookie cutter, safe, broad appeal megaprojects per year to pump effective marketing campaigns into.

 

[XXL]

That's good to know. Any idea where they went?

They got instant access to Heaven, after making Prey.

 

[Flabagast]

The way things are going, the landscape is going to be insanely massive blockbusters and home grown, low budget indie games, with nothing in-between.

We're kinda witnessing the death of the b-game here. Avowed absolutely isn't going to move the needle financially regardless of how good it is and Obsidian will probably be next in the firing line - unless they give them the Fallout licence to shit out a spin-off as soon as they humanly can.

To be fair, this is mainly the fault of hardcore gamers (neogaffers for example) who now refuse to buy B-games and keep throwing their money at rotten IPs or lame subscriptions services like Gamepass or PS+

For example, Dontnod recently released a solid and complete AA title and it barely generated any discussion around here. Thaumaturge as well, released this year, does not even have an OT here. Examples are aplently.

 

[StereoVsn]

Arkane i understand, Redfall was embarasing, but Tango, come on now.


I had zero faith in MS before, now im actually excited to see what else they close so we can have the other half of our industry back.

Man, and I was looking forward to Ghostwire Tokyo 2 and pretty much anything else from Tango. They were a great studio, this is damn frustrating.

 

[nani17]

I don't think this will be the last cuts from MS this year

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Wow.

 

[midnightAI]

While Arkane Lyon still exists, a lot of talent is being consolidated into Bethesda from the Austin studio. Dishonored was conceived and built at Arkane Austin, Prey is also a solid game. Harvey Smith and Raphael Colantonio have shared duties with leading both Lyon and Austin studios at different times, together and solo. Redfall killed a solid studio, I think this is being a little understated.

For now, lets see how Blade does

 

[Doczu]

I know thst the current Arkane are not the same ones who made Prey, Dishonored and Arx Fatalis, but holy shit a real Immersive Sim legend got killed off and that makes me sad as hell..

 

[Thyuda]

Aren't we all glad for consolidation and all those smooth brained fanbois who cheered for this?

Aren't we?

 

[diffusionx]

They're losing Colt...

 

[Punished Miku]

GamePass was a fucking disaster.

I don't think that they have a problem with GP users as far as 1st party studios. It doesn't really make logical sense. They don't expect people to sub and also buy the games, which is basically paying for it twice (many of them do this anyway). The GP sales concern only really made any sense for 3rd party stuff, but they are compensated.

I've got no problem shitting on MS for this one, but of course you guys just use it as an excuse to attack random gamers who like Xbox and like these games. I think the bigger problem is all the people that didn't buy an Xbox at all, that trashed everything they put out for the last 4 years, that trashed GP, and that didn't buy it on PC or PS5. People subbing to GP have definitely given money towards this $25 game. They're probably the main ones that did. The issue is the system adoption is dead, and the normal growth you'd see along with that never happened. GP was never even close to 100% of Xbox users, it was about 15%. You guys just run with this story for no reason. And this game is unfortunately not selling well on any system, so that obviously isn't exclusive to Xbox gamers. We have 20 million+ subs that paid into this game partially.

 

[adamsapple]

This is the part that upsets me the most. All of these sillicon valley companies and gaming companies like Sony and Nintendo are posting record profits. Nintendo hasnt laid off anyone but sony just did any why? What the fuck are these guys doing? They need to invest MORE into these studios.

If Arkhane was not able to make games themselves then they shouldve been turned into a satellite studio for Bethesda to help make Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. Same goes for Tango Gameworks. Dont get rid of talent FFS.

Going by Booty's email, they're going to focus primarily on the 'blockbuster' titles now. A shame for developers who primarily made AA games.