Microsoft considering adding emulated 360 backwards compatibility to Xbox One

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"There are, but we're not done thinking them through yet, unfortunately," Savage replied when asked if there are plans for an Xbox 360 emulator on Xbox One. "It turns out to be hard to emulate the PowerPC stuff on the X86 stuff. So there's nothing to announce, but I would love to see it myself."

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Penello explained to Polygon in November that cloud streaming is currently too failure-prone to provide a quality service to most consumers. He added that the technology works if users "happen to have the world's most awesome internet connection" but the ability to control the quality of that experience is out of Microsoft's hands.

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The comment about needing the most awesome internet connection to ensure quality is kind of funny considering all they've gone through in the past year. Hope they find a way to make this so.
 
A software based emulator on X1 that takes in retail discs? Never.

A software online solution that has a monthly subscription fee? Maybe.

Why consider it instead of doing it?

Same reason NASA is currently considering going to Mars instead of "just doing it". Shit isn't exactly easy and takes tons of effort. Emulators don't write themselves, you know :-)
 
Seems too late to still be "thinking about it". They lost their opportunity to keep their 360 player base with things that tie you to the ecosystem like BC because they offered nothing to transfer over from one gen to the next outside of friend lists. Can't even do voice comms between the two systems. Not even a Skype app for 360.
 
Eesh, while I'm not a huge fan on software emulation, it's better than nothing I suppose. Wonder what kind of improvements can be made to the games (if any at all).
 
Seems too late to still be "thinking about it". They lost their opportunity to keep their 360 player base with things that tie you to the ecosystem like BC because they offered nothing to transfer over from one gen to the next outside of friend lists. Can't even do voice comms between the two systems. Not even a Skype app for 360.

Its never "too late". It wouldn't be about retaining the player base it would be about selling more games.
 
I imagine it's something all of the major console manufacturers at least consider. They said they didn't do it because PowerPC is difficult to emulate which is what I believe most of us thought to be the case, so this is basically confirming the expected.
 
Sadly BC is dead. After the PS3 fiasco, and Sony removing it, seems all console makers don't believe BC is worth it, especially MS. I'm glad at least Nintendo can play Wii games on the Wii U.
 
Its never "too late". It wouldn't be about retaining the player base it would be about selling more games.

The whole point of BC is to lock people into your ecosystem. People who weren't 360 gamers last gen won't care really about BC if they buy an XBO. It's for the 360 gamers to see value in upgrading within the same company. When a company considers having BC in their next console, it is for the purpose of keeping people locked in and not wanting to jump ship. By not having even a strategy laid out for BC meant that MS didn't think they needed anything at all to keep people from jumping ship to PS4. That was obviously flawed thinking.
 
Actions are louder than words. MS has been saying a lot lately, if they follow through on it, I'll reconsider an X1. I'm not going to get excited though, I'll wait and see.
 
If it's good and works with XBLA games, i'll definitely consider getting an XB1 sooner. Better not be behind a paywall though, then screw it.
 
I have all the hardware required, let me use my Xbox 360 as a slave device for my Xbox One.

The 360 can hook up to the Xbox One via HDMI, add some intermediate processing for controller/device comms and let the Xbox One handle OS functions.
 
Have to admit that 360 BC would add some value to an XB1 for me. I still have some 360 titles I would like to finish, but gave away my system last year. Would like to play through the halo series before Halo 5 comes out next year, but have no interest in getting another 360 at this point.
 
After how the 360 handled original Xbox emulation, I don't know man. Playing 360 games with more stuttering and glitches than before doesn't sound enticing.
 
As I understand it, a single Xbone core is slower than a single 360 core, hence local software emulation on the Xbone will almost certainly never happen, short of outright witchcraft.
 
Sadly BC is dead. After the PS3 fiasco, and Sony removing it, seems all console makers don't believe BC is worth it, especially MS. I'm glad at least Nintendo can play Wii games on the Wii U.

after this gen, i expect nintendo to cut BC too since it didn't help the Wii U and the competition cut it. it can save some cost since they can go all out with a new architecture that gets better performance with the same cost (one of the many problems the wii u has is expensive chips due to how customized they are to provide BC since there's no separate chip for it)
 
I'm not really expecting 360 BC, but it would be cool to get some OG Xbox emulation. Both it and X1 use x86 architecture, right? I mean I don't really know what that means but I like to think it means there's a chance.
 
At best, this will be for select titles, right? Both MS and Sony really screwed the pooch with the lack of BC. If the Xbone had been announced with full 360 BC, I would have bought one at launch.
 
I could never get why people so desperately need backwards compatibility. I don't buy a new system to play old games.
 
Considering the success of the 360 in terms of software sales, I think not having BC is a huge slap for owners.

A lot of people would like to play their past purchases again.

When Microsoft stops selling the 360, are existing 360s now considered rare items?

Maybe with Satya Nadella and Phil Spencer at the helm, things will change.
 
I wouldn't read too much into this. It's typical PR speak to get everyone excited then nothing happens.

Also, the way it sounds, if this does happen it will be like PS2 classics on PS3 so you would just have to rebuy your games anyway.
 
Microsoft thinking about adding 360 backwards compatibility


MS exec 1: "Hey should we add 360 backwards compatibility"
MS exec 2: "Naah."
 
A software based emulator on X1 that takes in retail discs? Never.

A software online solution that has a monthly subscription fee? Maybe.

Give me access to the entire 360 library with nice quality local emulation for a monthly fee and I would literally buy an XBone today. Same for the PS4/PS3. Come to think of it I'm surprised Sony/MS haven't tried this as opposed to selling retrotitles piecemeal. $20 a month with a 12 month contract (more for per month access) is probably substantially more than they'd earn per user selling individual titles. And distributions to the publisher/devs could be driven by a simply weighting of which games were downloaded/played likely again resulting in more $ for them than they'd get by only agreeing to sell individual titles. And from a consumer point of view $20/mo for access to the 360/PS3 libraries sounds just incredible
 
JayEH, you're right.

I still remember Bernie Stolar musing about a Panzer Dragoon Saga remake for DC. Of course, nothing was planned and nothing came of it, but all Stolar wanted to do was build some hoe and sell a few Dreamcasts.

It's kind of cynical, really. At least the Xbone BC thing they're being a little more honest regarding how difficult (and therefore unlikely) it is.
 
something like this would excite me if it went as far back as the original xbox but i still have my normal 360 with me for all my retro urges lil bit more of a problem with og xbox though.
 
Obviously backwards-compatibility if awesome. But, I wonder why so many gamers feel entitled to it. I mean, the idea of backwards compatibility is quite new.
 
If I could have been able to play all my XBLA titles on Xbox one, I'd have bought it day one. If they somehow make it that any game we've bought digitally on our Xbox 360 can be played on Xbox One, I'd probably buy it straight away.
 
Obviously backwards-compatibility if awesome. But, I wonder why so many gamers feel entitled to it. I mean, the idea of backwards compatibility is quite new.

The PS2 came out 14 years ago with backwards compatibility built in and there were ways to play master system games on a Megadrive and NES games on a SNES it isn't exactly a new concept.

I think most people feel "entitled" to it because they've invested a lot of money into the platform especially with digital purchases.
 
will never happen, on PC you need to be a lot more powerful than the console you are trying to emulate (5 times? 10 times?).

Xbox one would be no different and it isnt that much more powerful than the 360.
 
A software based emulator on X1 that takes in retail discs? Never.

A software online solution that has a monthly subscription fee? Maybe.



Same reason NASA is currently considering going to Mars instead of "just doing it". Shit isn't exactly easy and takes tons of effort. Emulators don't write themselves, you know :-)

Listen to this man! Lol
 
will never happen, on PC you need to be a lot more powerful than the console you are trying to emulate (5 times? 10 times?).

Xbox one would be no different and it isnt that much more powerful than the 360.

You are comparing the works of a man who lives in his basement to a multi billion company who happened to create the console. But still, it's going to be a miracle if they pull it off.
 
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