Kerotan Frog
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Sony should announce price at $399 to play chicken with MS. Would be hilarious if MS announced price at $390 just out of spite.
We had the exact same narrative this gen with the PS4 ending up cheaper than the XO.
This isn't how businesses work. These prices are put in place months, if not years ahead of time, and involve agreements with the a huge number of departments internally, manufacturers, distributors and retail, all of which care far more about the product in questions plan to achieve profitability, than what the competition is doing.
Not that they won't cut prices should they need to, obviously, but no company would be so sloppy with a product release as to let a competitor lead them by the nose like this, it's just not logistically possible.
Didnt know you had masters in business management. Maybe they should hire you.This isn't how businesses work.
You sure about that ?Sony should announce price at $399 to play chicken with MS. Would be hilarious if MS announced price at $390 just out of spite.
I think gamers really want a repeat of the L E G E N D A R Y "$299" PS1 reveal that has been enshrined in videogame history. Every single generation we get hungry for someone to drop the B O M B A with a huge price disparity in their favor (or against them). Either way, a bunch of people are waiting like hounds behind a starter gate, knowing that price is going to be revealed soon.
Then the high-intensity interval trolling can commence.
As others have said I definitely think MS have to undercut Sony at launch but at least $50, the PS5 will sell more worldwide next gen but it may be closer in US and UK
That's a good way of putting it.Well, if anything ever worked - that's it. Very few people gave Sony a chance to even compete with Nintendo and Sega, after Phillips and Panasonic crashed.
Sony went on to sell over 100 million PlayStation consoles and things just got better after that and have become the biggest name in video games.
Of course, the $299 price wasn't the only factor. But it led to the install base which led to huge publishers jumping from Nintendo to PlayStation which ultimately changed the gaming landscape.
If there ever was motivation for someone to drastically undercut Sony, that would be it - whether that's Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, etc.
I think Microsoft is in this to build a huge user base. The "console war" is not the primary location for them. This is about every platform that could support xCloud.Yeah I don't believe this.
It doesn't make sense for MS to have the more powerful console by a considerable margin AND undercut.
Well why dont they just price it at $399?, its not like PS5 will be any cheaper than that, if they can even match that price in the first place.
Yeah I don't believe this.
It doesn't make sense for MS to have the more powerful console by a considerable margin AND undercut.
I think Microsoft is in this to build a huge user base. The "console war" is not the primary location for them. This is about every platform that could support xCloud.
I think MS won't release a Lockhart because they already have XBO S, X and SAD as cheap SKUs, and said all the games from MS during the first couple of years of Series X will also be released for them. Which I assume it means they will continue selling them. I wouldn't understand why a company would need to have 5 SKUs in the market, I think it would make sense to support maximum 2 of them (the 'cheap one' and the 'premium/high end one') at the same time. Maybe even 3 (S/SAD, X, Series X).If ms wanted to undercut Sony they wouldn't be releasing a Lockhart.
How PS5 cost more with cheaper parts is crazy to me.My cost bets are: SX 500€. PS5 550€
My price bets are both at 450-500€
They thought it was the milkshake that would bring all the boys to the yardIf that was the plan, why go balls-to-the-wall with the Series X specs? I'm just not seeing it.
Yeah I don't believe this.
It doesn't make sense for MS to have the more powerful console by a considerable margin AND undercut.
If that was the plan, why go balls-to-the-wall with the Series X specs? I'm just not seeing it.
after the specs, SONY's PS5 is much closer to 399 than MS's XbxSex
On the other hand, if SONY shows strong first party at 399, even selling at 299 is not going to make MS win.
MS has done nothing to make PS4 install base drop the brand and move over to xbox. They just don't have the fucking games.
That does not mean people are not going to buy new xbox.
Also a bit of history lesson, apparently MS believes that the race to first 10 million wins the race, this is complete horse shit.
MS jammed XboxOne hardware at various retailers in 2013 to sell 10 million, the stock didn't see. It was trailing behind PS4 and hence we did not get the beautiful Limited Edition Titanfall Ed Xboxone. (was only produced far less and given to developers). I saw one on eBay and I believe it went for 5 k CDN.
why does Lockheart exist?
Do we even know for sure that it does?
How PS5 cost more with cheaper parts is crazy to me.
Xbox One Series X has more expensive:
+ 2 PCB (one of them is more complex due having a 320bits bus)
+ 10 GDDR6 memory modules
+ 320bits bus
+ APU is bigger
+ 1GB SDD storage
What PS5 has more expensive:
- SSD controller and bus.
If Sony prices it at $500 with a first party pack-in game, $50 won't be enough. Sony got multiple first party titles to choose from and MS can't use their Halo, only guaranteed launch first party title, to counter it as it's the too valuable.If Sony goes for $500, I expect price similar or at most ms undercuts $50. And probably couples it with a month or 3 month ultimate subscription.
Well why dont they just price it at $399?, its not like PS5 will be any cheaper than that, if they can even match that price in the first place.
I’m really not convinced because there are so many other areas where Microsoft competes that are larger than the console market and they rarely do radical price cuts to gain market share. The logic just doesn’t add up and it feels like a fanboy dream like Xbox One X costing the same as a PS4 Pro when it launched.
How PS5 cost more with cheaper parts is crazy to me.
Xbox One Series X has more expensive:
+ 2 PCB (one of them is more complex due having a 320bits bus)
+ 10 GDDR6 memory modules
+ 320bits bus
+ APU is bigger
+ 1GB SDD storage
What PS5 has more expensive:
- SSD controller and bus.
Sony should announce price at $399 to play chicken with MS. Would be hilarious if MS announced price at $390 just out of spite.
Gotta be honest, the mention of the 360 vs PS3 situation in the context of this seems really off.
Lets face it.That was a situation where Sony launched a year late, at a much higher-price and were still taking a heavy hit on every unit sold. I see no reason why they should be so disadvantaged this gen.
And even if it were to repeat, how did that situation play out by the end of the gen? Its amazing to me that its looked upon as this "camelot" era for Xbox when the historical fact is they still ended up 3rd out a field of 3 and had to give up a ton a cash to cover the extended warramty program that allowed them to narrowly avert a product recall.
They literally said they are going to be agile on price.I work for a fortune 50 company and the amount of hoops we have to jump through to do ANYTHING on this level. And people think they just drop it an hour before they sell it
MS so rich its paying factories to produce more expensive products for Sony, of course.
I think when rumors float about Sony having a hard time getting the price down, it means getting the price down to 399$. Sony last two consoles have launched at 399$, while MS launched Xbox One and X at 499$, so recent precedent is on MS's side and not Sony. But of course western media goes straight into writing senseless garbage.
YOUR Omitting the cooling solution which had patents a year or so back. If they had to make their own cooling solution which sounds like they did, to have 2ghz boost clock for gpu, then that adds a good amount to the build. But if that is something they are willing to eat since it's them that designed it, then they may not pass that along to consumers.
Also think their controllers are going to be 69.99. The tech thats in them sounds like Switch pro controller on steroids. Not cheap.
Western media writing senseless garbage for a PlayStation with their headquarters in California, United States of America?
Okay.
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