Microsoft making at least four new IPs
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I updated that with properly investing. They have not done proper core IP investing in the latter half of this gen. I'm a massive 360 fan, but this is clearly evident. Floating 1 core title or so a year is not proper investment.
I should add I remember years ago Stinkles just about going off the handle about this very point and saying they were coming.
They really didn't outside of Halo/Gears.
You clearly can't count if you believe that MS floated one core game the latter half of the generation.
Name the big core 360 games that made it in the first half of the gen that didn't make it in the latter. If you were this supposed 'massive' 360 fan then you were playing the games core gamers played.
If you werent then you were pretending that no games existed like many other have to do to make their point.
Again it doesnt change the point that MS invested heavily into new IPs for the next gen regardless of what you or I believe.
Ok, let's take last year for example and I said 1 or so.
Halo 4 and Forza. What from MS was released for the core as a retail product going all the way back between those to Forza 4. An entire year.
Now, help me remember all the others.
And I do believe as we see here they have some products in the pipe for next gen but by no means do I believe they invested properly this generation in SW for the next.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Fairly certain 343 came out and said Halo 4 was also the best selling Halo title, sorry bub.
Oh yes, because it makes logical sense that Halo 4 has sold 12 million copies in the last 3-4 months (it doesn't and it hasn't.)
And then take a look at what actual Xbox fans got to play at year Seven
Halo 4 (the biggest hardcore core exclusive in 2012 an the most expensive game in Xbox history)
Forza Horizon (Forza name but a completely new open world racing experience)
Witcher 2
Minecraft (Xbox 360 edition)
Trials Evolution
Fez
Mark of Ninja
Alan Wake Nightmares
Deadlight
Not to mention that MS originally published Mass Effect so of course they wouldnt compete with a series that over 2 million core Xbox gamers have supported since 2007.
The fact is it's year seven and Micrsoft released sequels to it's big guns and are releasing the big new IPs on the Next Xbox. It didn't stop the 360 core from being the biggest fanbase for Dishonored or playing the GOTY Walking Dead.
Why spend millions of dollars in resources conentrating on New Ips for the 360 going into year 8 when your spending millions of dollars to launch your new system?
Before this year Sony hadnt released a AAA New Ip since the year both Heavy Rain and Alan Wake were released.
If your a huge fan of gthe 360 franchises then you were one of the thousands of rabid fans that stood on lines at midnight for Halo 4.
If you are a MS detractor then of course you wine b-b-but's it's another Halo, while ignoring that Sony's AAA games shown on stage last night were Killzone 4 ala Halo 4 & the 3rd Infamous and Drive Club ala Forza Horizon.
In the end, huge games like Gears of War: Judgement are releasing for Gears fans and new IPs like Ascension: New Gods and Lococycle are releasing for Live while you can just look through GAF and see all the new IPs slated for the NextBox.
higherARC05
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whatever these new ips are it wont help since nextbox is very weak and cheap.
They will just be current gen games with spiced up kinext2.0 features.
Hope you all enjoy!
They will just be current gen games with spiced up kinext2.0 features.
Hope you all enjoy!
How do people like this get to become members on this site?
So much crow will be eaten.
Nope it's the fastest selling doing 7 million in 7 weeks and already outselling ODST life-time sales, the game you said it wouldn't outsell.
It'll still sell healthy in 2013 and who cares if it ever outsells Halo 3 as no other hardcore exclusive on any console will touch Halo 3 sales this gen.
3 years from now Halo 5 will have the same kind of frenzy on the Next Box guaranteed.
Source...?
Miles Quaritch
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I'd genuinely like to know why you felt it prudent to post this.
Didn't what?
Oh man, those mannequin things scared the fuck out of me. Probably one of the best designed/drawn/whatever FPS levels I've ever seen. Creeped me the fuck out without feeling like it tried too hard (zomg blood on the walls! How scary! or whatever).
To cover as many bases as possible, I think we'll see at least one of the following types of games on launch:
Arcadey racer (PGR5?), show off pretty cars and city environments
Something open-world or at least, large in scale (so either an RPG or possibly Crackdown-ish)
Dudebro action game (I'm guessing new IP? People am a bit Haloed out. Could be combined with previous game)
Family friendly game (not XBLA, but a full-disc one. Probably Kinect 2.0 related and likely a pack-in)
A sports title (probably third-party. Maybe EA's basketball resurrection? Show off genuinely photorealistic players? Or maybe an equivalent to Sony's The Show?)
Alan Wake 2
And of course, a shitload of XBLA titles... mostly tech demos that fully exploit whatever social integration the new console is capable of.
XtremeXpider
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It kept them afloat though. Yeah, that is depressing.Not OK
Trolls gonna troll.
Yeah that was easily one of the creepiest games i have played this gen, great game. If the Black Tusk game really is a more horror themed shooter, i hope it's close in feel to Condemned.
Not really interested in the helmet and glasses stuff TBH. I'd rather see MS do something more with this next gen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm2IuVfNEGk
I think it would be pretty cool in conjunction with Kinect.
I was thinking Kinest + Oculus Rift + Child of Eden. There's literally no reason it couldn't be done and have it work well.
It wasn't fantastic, but it wasn't horrible. Apparently most of Ruffian's efforts went into creating the existing city because they didn't have access to the engine/code that was used for the first one (given it was by RTW). So there wasn't a heck of a lot of room for creativity, especially considering they had a pretty tight timeline to go by (a year? 18 months or so?). I'll put it this way: I had more fun with it than the majority of similarly-styled gamed (Infamous, Prototype) but didn't have as much fun as with the original Crackdown. If you can find it cheap, I wouldn't hesitate to grab it. But fighting mutants is a far less interesting aside to jumping around a city than taking down criminal drug lords or whatever.
I still remember when it was first announced at E3 2009 (40 mins in... that darkness, then the sound of an orb. I remember being the happiest I've ever been with a press conference), because everyone knew RTW was working on APB and assumed it was going to be a single-game franchise.
But a third one, if the devs have been given enough time, could be one of the best things to have on launch as a pure eyecandy and all powerful superhero-esque experience. Don't remember noticing anything like that with the Sony presentation this week (but I could have missed it).
The Living Tribunal
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higherARC05
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(02-21-2013, 09:55 PM)
Meh. The first one was much better.
For a game that had, what, 7 months dev time? It turned out alright.
Miles Quaritch
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It's not bad, but it's nowhere near as the first game. It essentially builds on some elements of the first game but regressing in some aspects.
The removal of transforming vehicles was the biggest crime in my opinion, the gameplay, etc were still as good, if not better than the first game.
4 player co-op a significant advancement for the game, any sequel would need to have this as standard. The wingsuit was also a significant addition, as was the helicopter. The new weapons were very good too, with the light weapons and the spear guns being the more impressive.
"first party partners"".
Miles Quaritch
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Adds considerable weight to the rumour they are developing a water based racer.
Miles Quaritch
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Horizon 2 won't be at launch but that game is definately getting a sequel.
Miles Quaritch
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I hope it does, one of the most engaging and enjoyable racers I've had the pleasure of playing since Project Gotham Racing 4.
Miles Quaritch
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Kameo 2? Yes, we sorely need a sequel to this magnificently underrated title.
Didn't think so.
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Very excited to see Rare's title, if it lives up to (or is) VP, I'll be happy.
Miles Quaritch
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He's right in that it was the best and fastest selling Halo game, at least according to 343i.
http://www.oxm.co.uk/49083/343-boss...ly-amazing-halo-4-is-best-game-in-the-series/
http://www.complex.com/video-games/...43-industries-promises-to-do-better-in-halo-5
This is easily found via a search on Google. I appreciate he made the claim and so it falls to him to provide sources, but to attempt to claim he was lying or unable to provide a source when it's readily available on Google, is poor form.
Where is your source that Reach didn't achieve Halo 3 numbers? Reach will be well over 10m by now.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that it has outsold Halo 3, particularly when the total sales figures in early-mid December were at 4 million. It would have had to have sold ~ 8 million between Christmas and now.
Miles Quaritch
Member
You may find it incredibly hard to believe, but unless you can directly contradict what 343i are claiming with hard data/facts, it's only an assumption on your part.
If your figures are accurate, I'd also question 343i claims, but until we have hard data, it's only a feeling and that's worth sweet FA.
Excuse me, but that article in no way implies Halo 4 has outsold Halo 3, 'best' is an ambiguous term and it comes across as deliberately misleading, it could quite frankly mean anything. I'm still waiting for actual 'hard data' from you guys.
It's quite entertaining.
Miles Quaritch
Member
You make a wild accusation, prove it. Stop playing semantics or moving goalposts. It doesn't serve to advance discourse, it only serves to make you seem upset and bitter.
You apparently have access to lots of sales data from past Halo games based on your previous posts, please do post those numbers and the sources so we might begin to the get the bottom of this pit of lies and ambiguous claims.
Miles Quaritch
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I'd hope I'm not referred to as a Brickwall. I haven't been posting long enough to gain such a moniker.
AdventureRacing
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It's talking about launch aligned sales. Obviously halo 4 hasn't already outsold halo 3.
No, I've made a very reasonable accusation. Halo 4 selling 12 million copies in three months would be both remarkably and questionably good for the series, so quite rightly I would like to see the 'hard data' that confirms this, as it would change a lot about how I perceive the success of this title, and the strength of these new IP's going forward.
I have what is available, this does not include.
- 7 million in 7 weeks or
- 12 million in 12 weeks
This is what I had suspected, thank you.
He is referring to myself, he is bitter about our previous encounters.
If Horizon 2 wasn't coming I'm sure one of two things would have happened, Playground Games would've shut down or come out saying that they are moving on from the franchise.
Forza Motorsport has never sold particular great but Microsoft allows it to keep going I don't see why Horizon couldn't continue also.
Miles Quaritch
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I don't believe it was reasonable in the slightest, although it's become apparent from your later comment that you wrongly assumed they were referring to lifetime sales and not launch window sales.
A rather amateurish mistake to make if you don't mind my saying.
Thank you.