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EDIT: Below is an update about the little spat between him and Manveer, a game designer at Bioware.

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Update: Pennywise also discovered a pretty distinct developer leaving a highly implicit post on the matter:

"Given that legally I cannot confirm or deny if this information is true, nor can I comment on rumor or speculation, all I can say is be sure to pay your ISP bills

."

Info on the dev behind the comment:

http://www.xboxlivescore.com/profile/Mr-Lake

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,126367/

This guy.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmohilchock

Working here :
http://www.theworkshop.us.com/about.php

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Update 2: Sweet Billy-GATE

A Reddit user made quite a claim on their site on Adam, as you can read below:

Well...

Here's an Adam Orth post on NeoGAF from 2007... under the account name 'sweet billy'.

He's not a Junior. Good for him.

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Update 3: Aaron Greenberg responds to the delicate matter at hand:

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Update 4: Major Nelson issues a formal response:

I wanted to give you the official Microsoft Statement regarding some comments you may have seen yesterday::

"We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers. We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter."

As frequent readers of my blog know, the moment we have news about our products I will be sharing all the details I can.

http://majornelson.com/2013/04/05/official-statement-on-what-was-said-yesterday/

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Update 5: Possibly fired

Update: 1:40pm

Sources are telling 4Player that Adam Orth is no longer working for Microsoft. Currently tracking this down further...

...we've confirmed this with one reliable source but not two, and Orth's linkedin has currently shown no movement. We're considering this a high possibility but it currently lacks enough verification for us to confirm at this time.

http://4playernetwork.com/blog/2013/04/adam-orth-article/

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Sunhi does it again.

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Francis goes frantic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cW28VSmXnCo#!

Story recap:

I'm not sure where that poster who does thread recaps is -- but I'll try my best..

• NeoGAF user Shinobi screen caps the tweets of Adam Orth, Creative Director at MSFT Studios.
• These tweets contain the fallacious analogies you see in the OP -- in defense of an always-online console box.
• In conjunction with the Kotaku thread about the always-online rumors, this thread blows up.
• The story is picked up by popular gaming sites including CVG, Verge, Kotaku, and others.
• David Jaffe attempts to defend the character of Adam (they were former coworkers) -- but particularly his comments regarding rural towns in the US and their online infrastructure.
• Adam attempts to excuse the tweets as jokes and locks his twitter account.
• Detective-GAF then finds an alleged dev on a separate forum claiming one should keep up with their ISP bills (implying some truth to the rumor).
• Detective-GAF then confirms that alleged dev to be an actual developer working on next-gen games.
• The story continues to blow up on reddit, reaching the front page with thousands of comments.
• A user in the reddit thread claims Adam is an ass in person and he insists on being called 'sweet billy.'
• Detective-GAF then confirms Adam is in fact, sweet billy, here on GAF. And his tweets confirm he is, in fact, an ass.
• Aaron Greenberg claims to be unaware of the existence of Adam Orth. [Insert Sweet Billy joke]

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Shinra-bansho put together a nice list for us.

Wow. 20+ more pages. Updated list, that you can replace the OP one with if you want shinobi.

• Amaebi.net: 次世代Xboxは常時オンライン接続が必要？　MS幹部「それが私たちが生きている世界だろう。我慢してくれ」
• Ars Technica: Microsoft employee on rumored Xbox Internet requirement: “#dealwithit”
• 3DJuegos: Próxima Xbox: Un creativo de Microsoft defiende la obligación on-line. "La electricidad también se va"
• CNET: Xbox tweets hint at 'always on' future
• CNET AU: Xbox's Adam Orth doesn't get 'always on' concerns
• CNET UK: Microsoft exec can't see the problem with always online Xbox
• CVG: Microsoft creative director speaks in favour of 'always online'
• Destructoid: Microsoft man on always-online consoles: 'Deal with it'
• Develop: Microsoft exec: I don't get the drama around always-on
• Digital Spy: Microsoft creative director on always-on connections: 'Deal with it'
• Eurogamer: Microsoft creative director dismisses "drama" around always-online consoles
• Eurogamer Poland: Dyrektor kreatywny w Microsoft Studios: „Prąd też czasami wyłączą”
• Eurogamer Portugal: Diretor Criativo dos Microsoft Studios defende a ligação constante à Internet
• Eurogamer Sweden: Microsoft-anställd bemöter kritik kring ständig uppkoppling
• Forbes (Contributer): Microsoft Creative Director Adam Orth on Always Online Consoles: 'Deal With It'
• Gamasutra: Durango's 'always on' likelihood irritates players and devs alike
• Game Informer: More Sources Say Next Xbox Will Require Always-On Internet Connection
• Game Revolution: Microsoft Creative Director On Always-On Xbox 720: "Deal With It"
• Gameplanet: Got a problem with always-on? "Deal with it" – Microsoft Game Studios creative director
• GameReactor Sweden: Microsoft om att kräva konstant uppkoppling
• GameSpot: Microsoft creative director doesn't get the 'drama' around an always-online Xbox
• Gematsu: Microsoft creative director defends ‘always online’
• Huffington Post: Microsoft's Adam Orth Fans Rumour That Next Xbox Requires 'Always On' Internet Connection
• IGN: Microsoft Creative Director on Always Online: 'Deal With It'
• Inside-Games.jp: 噂: 次世代Xboxはゲームプレイ時もインターネット接続が必須か、一定時間のネット切断でプレイが中断
• Jeux Video: Xbox 3 et connexion permanente : La grogne monte
• JustPushStart: Microsoft Employee Defends Rumored Always Online Feature On Xbox 720
• Joystiq: Microsoft Studios creative director dismisses 'always-on' console concerns
• JVN: Nouvelle Xbox : pas de jeu possible sans connexion internet ?
• Kotaku: Microsoft Creative Director 'Doesn't Get The Drama' Around Always-Online Consoles, Devices
• Mashable: Xbox Exec Tells Fans to 'Deal With' Always On Future
• MaximumPC: Snarky Microsoft Director Tweets Support for Always-On Consoles
• Meristation: “Linchan” a un ejecutivo de Microsoft por apoyar la conexión permanente en Xbox
• Metro UK: Microsoft response to always-online Xbox rumours is #DealWithIt
• MTV UK: Microsoft Director In Twitter Row Over New Xbox
• NBC News (Contributer): Microsoft executive to 'always-online' Xbox critics: 'Deal with it'
• Neoseeker: Adam Orth, Creative Director at Microsoft Studios, defends always online connections via Twitter
• Newser: Microsoft Exec Takes Flak Over 'Deal With It' Response
• NowGamer: Xbox 720 Always-On Practically Confirmed
• Nu.nl: Games werken nieuwe Xbox niet zonder internetverbinding.
• Official XBOX Magazine: Microsoft creative director defends always-online consoles, trades blows with BioWare
• Outerspace: Diretor da Microsoft defende exigência da conexão à internet no Xbox
• Penny Arcade: Deal with it: Microsoft employee tweets aren’t hurting the next Xbox, silence is
• Power Unlimited: Microsoft Director Over 'Always Online' Consoles: Deal With It! (Dutch)
• Shack News: Microsoft director jumps into 'always-on connection' discussion
• Technobuffalo: Next Xbox Requires Internet? Microsoft’s Adam Orth Doesn’t Care
• TechRadar: Did Microsoft just confirm an always-online Xbox 720?
• The Consumerist: Next Xbox May Require Internet Access At All Times, Microsoft Creative Director Doesn’t See The Problem
• The Escapist: Microsoft Exec on Always Online Consoles: "Deal With it"
• The Examiner: Microsoft executive to 'always-online' Xbox critics: 'Deal with it'
• The Verge: Microsoft creative director: 'I don't get the drama' over 'always-on' Xbox rumors
• TheSixthAxis: Microsoft Studio’s Creative Director Speaks About An Always-On Requirement
• TIME.com Techland: An Always-Online Console? ‘Deal With It’ — Microsoft Studios Creative Director Kicks the Hornet’s Nest
• Vandal: Microsoft Game Studios' director defends "always on" games (Spanish)
• Venturebeat: Xbox games director clueless about why fans hate always-on consoles
• vg247: Always-on: “Deal with it,” says Microsoft creative director
• Yahoo News: Microsoft exec tells critics of possible always-online Xbox to ‘deal with it’

Oh and yes, eventually even:

• Polygon: Microsoft Studios creative director's tweets bring always-on console unease to a head

Memed in less than 24 hours:

And one last thing, Hitler does not take kindly to this bullshit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cu5BRZc3M8

Update 6: Good night Sweet Billy

https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news...rosoft-designer-adam-orth-has-been-fired.aspx

Game Informer has learned from sources close to the matter that Orth is no longer with Microsoft. A call to Microsoft's main switchboard confirmed this fact. Our sources, who wish to remain anonymous, suggest that Orth resigned in the wake of last week's events. We haven't been able to confirm whether this was a voluntary or forced resignation.

 

[CambriaRising]

Welp. That pretty much sums it up.

 

[Psi]

Idiot spouting propaganda.

Edit: I guess he wants his vacuum to be online only too.

 

[velociraptor]

Well then.

Twitter

Such a terrible analogy.

 

[saunderez]

If he knows something and is making those comments I'm out on Nextbox and am finally going to let my 6 year Live subscription lapse in May. What arrogance.

 

[Het_Nkik]

Always online confirmed?

 

[Zerokku]

Welp. That pretty much sums it up.

Was just about to post those exact words.

 

[Santiako]

Pretty much confirmed then.

 

[Strike]

Alright, so it's happening.

 

[deadlast]

Thanks for confirming the always-on rumor. Glad to see my choice to go PS4 next gen has been justified once again.

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

So I guess it's confirmed then?

 

[SuperSonic1305]

Salty damage control

 

[TheRagnCajun]

That probably wasn't smart

 

[Gorillaz]

jesus christ this might really be happening

 

[Kusagari]

Thanks for confirming it for us.

 

[HoJu]

Well that's that. Unless it's not.

 

[Volotaire]

I'm guessing this probably confirms it.

 

[Averon]

This as much of a confirmation as we'll get before the official reveal.

 

[katkombat]

Such a terrible analogy.

Thank you for taking the words out of my mouth. I didn't understand what the fuck he was spouting out until I read the bottom tweet.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Oh boy, shit storm coming. I think this is only substantiates the rumor.

And actually if the reception was spotty and unreliable in my area I'd probably change providers or at least stick with a landline (which I haven't had in my residence for a couple years now).

 

[jwk94]

Incredibly ignorant

 

[jabuseika]

Skipping the next xbox, confirmed.


Good luck with that.

 

[Agnostic]

/prepares for incoming artillery

 

[Huevos de Oro]

This is as much of a confirmation to the always online rumors as we're going to get before whenever Microsoft presents this thing to the public.

 

[Meelow]

Him saying everyone should get the internet and he wants everything always on sure says a lot...

 

[Dunlop]

lol, that guy is going to get roasted from the web and his bosses

 

[Crumpet Trumpet]

Haha, how awful. RIP

 

[Lumination]

Wake me with your false equivalences when Hoover and Verizon knock on my door to take back their vacuum and phone.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

So

That's that

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Everyone knows that acting like a defensive jackass is always the best PR move.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

This is tacit confirmation, I guess.

 

[kadotsu]

MS is getting very "second job"-ish here. I wonder how much they'll pay me if I can find Nextboxes on shelves a week after launch.

 

[DaBoss]

Well...that's it folks. Terrible attempt at saving face with a terrible PR tactic.

 

[saunderez]

And actually if the reception was spotty and unreliable in my area I'd probably change providers or at least stick with a landline (which I haven't had in my residence for a couple years now).

Exactly. I have changed mobile providers several times over the past 10 years out of necessity due to reception. I'll change console providers just as fast.

 

[Stumpokapow]

The metaphor doesn't work because there are no real vacuum alternatives--no, dusting by hand doesn't count--that don't require electricity and there are no cell phones that magically work in areas with no reception (and if there were, everyone living in those areas would buy those phones instead of the ones that are spotty)

So, uh...

 

[linkboy]

My LIVE account expires in a few weeks and I'm not renewing it. I'm probably not going to get the next Xbox either.

I somewhat hope that MS really does go through with this, so I can sit back and laugh at how stupid they are.

 

[The Omega Man]

Twitter

No no no, tell me he is joking, those analogies are meant to be joke right? Right?

 

[Baleoce]

Analogy pro confirmed

 

[AniHawk]

Welp. That pretty much sums it up.

that's the best part. instead of waiting for microsoft to present it in the most friendly way they can, he just blurts it out like an idiot.

 

[CambriaRising]

Idiot spouting propaganda.

Edit: I guess he wants his vacuum to be online only too.

They sell battery powered vacuums.

And their competitors will be selling consoles that don't require online.

Pretty ill-conceived move, MS.

 

[rrs]

Looks like I know what console not to buy 5 years from now

 

[PorygonVandal]

Good luck selling that thing in Latin America

 

[Replicant]

Yeah, who cares about those people living in areas without reliable internet connection? F them. It's the 21st century! /eyeroll

Welp, this kind of confirmed it then? F U too then MS. And here I thought I may get an Xbox this gen.

 

[Mifune]

OH NO.

I honestly clicked on the thread expecting to see him say that always-online is not happening. Not this. Not this.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Wow. Sounds like the guy snapped.

 

[onQ123]

Is that real?

 

[TheSeks]

Always online confirmed?

Until the system bombs at PS3 levels, yeah. MS is in for a rude awakening if they think everyone is online-enabled.

 

[EMT0]

Either...

A) The always-online rumors got to him and he's lashing out blindly, or

B) It's true and this is preliminary damage control.

I'm not taking sides here until we hear something definitive, I'll leave that to #TeamReal and #TeamCG.

Spoiler

Never again will I be burned

 

[Kerub]

Oh wow. It's actually happening?

 

[Diablo Rosso]

Well there you go. They're actually doing it from the looks of it.