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[Jez Corden] Hotly anticipated 'Black Myth: Wukong' is delayed on Xbox for 'optimizations' — and now, Microsoft has responded
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StueyDuck
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I vaguely remember a similar statement with baldurs gate 3 which then turned out to be a series S and parity issue (in that case co-op)
This is an unknown Chinese dev using UE5 after all. And Sony has the China hero project and has had for a while now.
Chances are they just aren't experienced enough for multiplatform release
This is an unknown Chinese dev using UE5 after all. And Sony has the China hero project and has had for a while now.
Chances are they just aren't experienced enough for multiplatform release
Giallo Corsa
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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First, the game was delayed in XSX with just 2 months left before its release. That tells me that the most logical reason in this case is the lack of adequate optimization, deadlines that are not met and prioritizing the platforms where the most sales will be generated. I remember, it is a new Studio without the experience of others. Perhaps they simply wanted to avoid another The Calisto Protocol case (where the problem was not XSS).
Having said that and secondly.... Why does no one (media, websites, users...) ever ask Sony about each of its multiple possible exclusivity agreements, the terms and duration of these?
In this same case, there is no harm in also asking or insisting to Sony on the possibility of some clarification of whether or not there is an agreement......Every time MS signs an exclusivity agreement, a campaign is started to determine the terms, the Studios are harassed to declare the reasons.....
Because the media is too busy attacking PlayStation for having any exclusives whatsoever in the first place, especially if they're Final Fantasy games. Did you somehow miss all of the discourse the past year surrounding that? Or earlier this year for that matter?
I don't remember the media pressing MS on their exclusivity deal for STALKER 2 mind, or Echo Generation & Ravenlok...both of which are still console-exclusive to Xbox, BTW.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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sendit
Member
I appreciate the enthusiasm, but this has typical Asian MMO (i know its not a MMO)/gameplay written all over it.
This game won't sell two copies even if it was printed on two disc.
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Astray
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It's already the #7 bestseller on Steam globally. That's not just Chinese or Asian demand.
Steam Current Global Top Sellers
Top selling games on the Steam store globally at this time.
steamdb.info
This is going to be a huge launch, Jez wouldn't be crying about it otherwise.
That would essentially be throwing the Series S audience to the wolves. No dev would ever make a respectable port for it unless they uphold some standards.
The big mistake was launching with it in the 1st place.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
PTSD in Baldur's gate 3.
I didn't think this thing was going to explode, but when you put it that way, it makes sense why Jez 'I'm not a journalist' Corden is working unpaid overtime to get to the truth of this story
Stafford
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It's already the #7 bestseller on Steam globally. That's not just Chinese or Asian demand.
Steam Current Global Top Sellers
Top selling games on the Steam store globally at this time.
This is going to be a huge launch, Jez wouldn't be crying about it otherwise.
That would essentially be throwing the Series S audience to the wolves. No dev would ever make a respectable port for it unless they uphold some standards.
The big mistake was launching with it in the 1st place.
Yeah, I see your point. But man, it sucks.
Didn't they eventually allow Larian to drop split screen altogether for BG3? So in that way S owners already have a inferior experience. Well, the spokesperson said they are working with the dev, so hopefully it can be out in a reasonable time frame.
JTCx
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The thought of this makes me hard.
??? The media attacking Sony for FF exclusives?? Rather, the first reactions and articles were always those of reasoning and praising the signing of these agreements
Every time MS announces an agreement of this type we all know that the complete terms will be known the next day because the massive pressure starts from the moment it is announced...
Whether it is because MS has historically been weaker against these campaigns and Sony is stronger (the famous blacklist) or whatever...anyone who sees equal treatment in that regard is lying to themselves.
??? With Stalker 2 the next question to the Studio was where the PS5 version was. Articles affirming the multiplatformity of the game to undermine the potential of the agreement and criticizing the decision..... until just days later the terms and even the exact duration of the exclusivity time were leaked....(3 months). You don't see that in every Sony third party exclusive game.
Ravenlok and Echo Gen?? That you point out games of this caliber says it all.You will have missed it because, indeed as always, the first reactions were those of "when on PS5?" and disregarding the suitability of the agreement even when MS funds part or all of the development
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I see your point, but Echo Generation and Ravenlok are not even in the shadow of FF in terms of relevance and their profile. If you're going to start counting small games, it's gonna become a real long list.
Also, for the STALKER 2 deal, we already know its term from official documents. 99% of third parties don't usually reveal that kind of info.
Games need to be certified by platform holders, they get to see it before it ships at least.
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Astray
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I expected it to be big-ish given how long it's been hyped, but I honestly never expected it to be THIS big.
Who says it's unpaid? This slimy bullshit is how he gets this level of access into MS.
Same goes for Tom Warren, but that guy is much smarter than Jez and has more going on in his life, so we get less lol moments out of him.
The PC spec sheet is stated with the assumption that FSR, DLSS or XeSS is being used. So %100 it's gonna use some sort of AI upscaling on Playstation 5 and Series X.
Whether that's a good or bad thing remains to be seen.
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If Sony had a deal they would push and advertise the game similarly to other partnerships.
I even doubted that the game was actually coming on consoles at all at the same time of PC.
Microsoft is just having another BG3 moment thanks to their completely failed Series S idea and some "journalists" are trying to deflect the blame to everyone but the actual culprit. The usual script that has destroyed the brand.
I even doubted that the game was actually coming on consoles at all at the same time of PC.
Microsoft is just having another BG3 moment thanks to their completely failed Series S idea and some "journalists" are trying to deflect the blame to everyone but the actual culprit. The usual script that has destroyed the brand.
Neo_game
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This cannot be true because then most game probably would not even release, including CP 2077 on last gen consoles, many others including Microsoft own Forza and another exclusive which they are closing now was a 30fps FPS game. Also I doubt the game has also been submitted for that so called certification.
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Dick Jones
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1. Aaron Greenberg
2. Matt Booty
3. Phil Spencer
4. Sarah Bond
How many more tools do they need?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Being 30 FPS wouldn't stop any game from being certified.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Yes, MS let Larian drop the feature for Series S users.
This is a UE5 game, considering how so many of them run on console, I'm not totally surprised if this dev isn't happy with performance on a console (likely the Series S).
I sound like a broken record but Jez's job is to go out there and put out BS to muddy the waters. He's a clown. I don't know why anyone who isn't totally in the bag for MS listens to him. There are much better websites and people to read for Xbox.
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Neo_game
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I forgot the name of that game but it was no where near complete or deserved any sort of certification lol even by today's standard of game launches. Also not sure FPS game these days are 30fps, it was mainly an online co-op game I think. I do not think Microsoft has any idea about the development of this game or the state of this game or even if this game has been submitted for any sort of certification. They are not going to do the game testing for the devs. It`s not their job
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sendit
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Ansphn
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It's just Xbox team using word play again to leave a possibility so some shills will blame PlayStation instead of having people focus on the real reason. And that reason is their Series S is a bad console.
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Ansphn
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When it comes to lies and deception, they always knew what they were doing. They're masters at that.
Portugeezer
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PS sells a lot more, so more people want to know what the deal is when they make timed exclusivity deals with Xbox.??? The media attacking Sony for FF exclusives?? Rather, the first reactions and articles were always those of reasoning and praising the signing of these agreements
Every time MS announces an agreement of this type we all know that the complete terms will be known the next day because the massive pressure starts from the moment it is announced...
Whether it is because MS has historically been weaker against these campaigns and Sony is stronger (the famous blacklist) or whatever...anyone who sees equal treatment in that regard is lying to themselves.
??? With Stalker 2 the next question to the Studio was where the PS5 version was. Articles affirming the multiplatformity of the game to undermine the potential of the agreement and criticizing the decision..... until just days later the terms and even the exact duration of the exclusivity time were leaked....(3 months). You don't see that in every Sony third party exclusive game.
Ravenlok and Echo Gen?? That you point out games of this caliber says it all.You will have missed it because, indeed as always, the first reactions were those of "when on PS5?" and disregarding the suitability of the agreement even when MS funds part or all of the development
Unknown Soldier
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They are so inexperienced they didn't realize they need to contract someone to manufacture physical discs for a physical release
I'm still amazed these guys tried to go it alone their first time with worldwide physical console launch instead of securing a publisher who knows how to get stuff like discs made and boxes printed done
Angry_Megalodon
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sendit
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My opinion on the game hasn't changed because it is being delayed on the Xbox. A console that I don't even own. This game looks like triple A trash with a shiny graphic coating (like Hellblade 2).
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DeltaPolarBear
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They had Killer Instinct 2 handed to them on a silver platter, and they refused to fund it. MS literally doesn't want to make popular games for reasons unknown.
Angry_Megalodon
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Opinions are opinions but your post was factually incorrect in both accounts: the game doesn't play like a MMO (let alone Hellblade, lol) and it's already selling like crazy. Quite the opposite from the truth.
By the way, Sony is funding another great-looking game Phantom Blade Zero, and this has been announced for XBOX, even after the heavy Sony involvement, so taking into account that game, Stellar Blade and a bunch of other Asian partnerships, it's FUD to blame Sony on this. There's a point in which ignorance cannot be excused.
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ChorizoPicozo
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oh, that's an interesting take. What kind of AAA trash? , cuz HB2 is barley a AA game
Freelance Yakuza
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its barely "a" game lol
ChorizoPicozo
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and thats a stretch
Feel Like I'm On 42
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sendit
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The game pre-selling well is not an indication of it being a good game......
The game looks like your typical Chinese developed action game. Prove me wrong. This goes the same with Phantom Blade Zero. I lump all those trash games in the same boat.
saintjules
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Sony partnership and Xbox is saying Series S is the 'excuse' (scapegoat) on the delay.
rhodesianshepard
Banned
Wukong has been hands-on previewed by many journalists. All the previews I have read seem to indicate its going to be a very good to great game, with some journalists saying it is a GOTY contender. The game may not be your bag, but for people who love the action genre, it seems like the real deal
sendit
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A fairly new developer, Game Science with one game in its back log (a strategy game) gets positive previews for Wukong.
A respected developer, CDProject Red with multiple games in its back log gets positive previews for Cyberpunk 2077.
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fallingdove
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The game looks good. We’ll see if it has the level of polish necessary to stand out. Lies of P was in a similar boat prior to release. Sadly, the game failed to capture my attention.
What is a typical Chinese developed action game? Can you cite one that has released recently?
rhodesianshepard
Banned
I assume when you are talking about "Chinese" developed games, you really mean misleading/fake games leading up to launch. Nothing is fake about Wukong. It is not a scam or anything of that nature. Looks to be a really good game by a developer making their first AAA game, similar to Stellar Blade earlier this year
And Cyberpunk ran pretty well on PC on release, which is the only platform journalists played the game when previewing. Not a good example
MarkMe2525
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Some of you guys give way too much credit to MS. It was most likely just a poorly worded statement, from a random MS community outreach employee, addressing a few on social media that were speculating that "Sony paid for first release". Unless I am mistaken, the article also fails to provide us with the actual question that this MS employee responded to. For all we know, the question could have brought up a potential "paid agreement" scenario. The idea that they were cleverly wording statements to feed console warrior discourse, just doesn't seem credible.
ChorizoPicozo
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There was an IGN interview years ago with Phil Spencer, the creator of the OG Xbox and someone else. in that interview they suggested that they were victims of corporate espionage by Sony.
and we have the constant whining from Phil regarding PS aggressiveness.
is very clear that Xbox uses their shills to shape the discourse.
//DEVIL//
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I really forgot where is from . Was it a movie is a short comedy clip . Name ?
