lastflowers
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Good to see investigative journalism in the mainstream press.
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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Good to see investigative journalism in the mainstream press.
Septimus Prime
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I was a huge fan of Polygon when it started, but I've noticed their coverage regarding certain things is...lacking, to say the least.
Do you really believe rumors half a year away from launch will be more influential than months of marketing and promotion?
Aquamarine
Member
In an hour on cheezburger even:
Here's a much, much larger sample set for a closely related issue (from GameFAQs):
53.94% of gamers refuse to support it.
A Microsoft higher up didn't even know the dude worked for Microsoft or existed, I'd say that qualifies Sweet Billy as some dude.
Vire
Member
Considering a develop made this comment:
It would be foolish not to believe that it wouldn't have it.
You believe this bullshit?
Boss Man
Member
Depends on how you feel about common sense.
SniperHunter
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hmm interesting thread, totally missed it! thnx
They start talking they will be pressed for more info. It's a PR nightmare +1.
Here's a much, much larger sample set for a closely related issue (from GameFAQs):
53.94% of gamers refuse to support it.
It's quite a bit different... when it is a specific game... vs an entire console and all games/apps you can run on it.
Here's a much, much larger sample set for a closely related issue (from GameFAQs):
53.94% of gamers refuse to support it.
53% of gamers visiting GameFAQS and actively participating in their polls say that they refuse to support it.
Impeccable
Member
How so?
You don't confirm, because you only stand to lose. You don't deny, because you have nothing to gain at this point in time.
Hence, no comment.
It doesn't mean what YOU want it to mean. It means "no comment."
They could disavow the rumors. But they stand to gain nothing from it, so they aren't going to. And, despite your personal attack, I've already stated I think the console will be always-online. But this? This doesn't prove shit, and just because you wish it to be so, does not make it so.
Aquamarine
Member
It's a representative sample of 43,000 gamers. A LOT of different types of people visit GameFAQs.
ThisWreckage
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Sweet Billy and Jeff Bell need to team up and do an E3 presentation.
Polygon will eventually be banned from this site, in my opinion. Evillore has already commented on Gies before and the words were harsh, but true. Polygon has gotten so bad that it actively makes GAF look bad since Gies is actively allowed to post on here.
Polygon will eventually be banned from this site, in my opinion. Evillore has already commented on Gies before and the words were harsh, but true. Polygon has gotten so bad that it actively makes GAF look bad since Gies is actively allowed to post on here.
In one case you can play your games if they don't have the online-requirement, in the other case, you can't play any game without an online connection.
Here's a much, much larger sample set for a closely related issue (from GameFAQs):
53.94% of gamers refuse to support it.
There is more to a sample set than just numbers.
Why would an employee lie about not knowing about another employee? Do you think the people at Microsoft have flow charts with everyone's name and position drawn on a whiteboard?
Where's the spin or benefit of not knowing someone exists?
This is the first news people are getting about the next xbox, these things stick.
The amount of BS people believed about the PS3 months after it was released cause of rumors was unreal.
He's one creative director for a company filled with hundreds of employees. It wouldn't be surprising.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
I just spent hours going through this thread; glad I was here to go through this. Microsoft, what are you doing?
UberTag
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They've made the same baseless assumption that Sony did with PlayStation 2 and Nintendo did with the Wii. They're under the perception that Xbox 360 customers are entrenched and will happily go wherever they provide content.
Except they didn't go to Windows Phone. And they didn't go to Surface.
And they probably won't be going to Durango unless they're given a reason to ask themselves "why wouldn't I upgrade?"
Hopefully they've got several good reasons lined up to answer that question.
What is your point? To not talk about it because we dont know for sure? Clearly, at the very least, MS doesnt think an always online console rumor is a damaging idea to their brand, that alone is enough to give pause. We are not talking about just some normal ass company, we are talking about a publicly traded company in the tech industry, where consumer awareness is kind of a big deal in terms of how well something does.
If they thought this was actually going to hurt them and they were not planning on doing it, they would say something. So either they dont think always online consoles are a bad thing but they are not doing it or they dont think always online consoles are a bad thing and they are doing it. Either way it seriously should concern consumers that this is the case.
If i were Sony, i would use it in my Ad campaing. It would be the next "It ony does everything" and "Long live Play" motto
Boss Man
Member
They absolutely can be. Regardless, they don't even have to be - something can be damaging without having a larger effect than something else.
Vire
Member
It's not like he was some disgruntled QA tester.
The man is a creative director for one of Microsoft's Studios flagship games.
Good thing I'm not foolish. But "always-online" is easily modified, we have no idea what they're doing with the console. It's way too early to be making any kind of judgments or predictions when we don't know anything, we don't know how it works, we don't know what it's for, we don't even know any (if there are any... heh) potential benefits. All we know is... internet connection. It's not like the current generation of consoles wasn't heavily reliant on internet connections either.
That's why I'm saying it's too early to make these kinds of calls.
Again, they stand nothing to gain by denying it now, and everything to lose by confirming it now. So this "no comment" tells us absolutely nothing.
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Deleted member 17706
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Actually, it kind of does. In the face of all this, a "no comment," is pretty much inviting people to interpret the comment as they please. Microsoft doesn't get to choose that. As others are saying, they have the ability to steer the narrative without confirming or denying a new console. They are choosing to not do so and that speaks volumes.
Damn. I need to learn how to do those awesome editing.
TacticalFox88
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Okay, HOLY SHIT!
Of all the outlets I didn't expect to report it...Fucking Time!?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
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Deleted member 17706
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It really doesn't matter. The facts are that he's a director who has some sort of responsibility when it comes to games getting made. He advertises this fact on his Twitter.
Boss Man
Member
So Time, Forbes, NBC are all reporting on a video games issue.
Wonder what might be keeping the video games website Polygon from acknowledging this. $750,000?
Well, yeah. The narrative. But not the facts, because right nowthere are no facts. Which is why saying that I'm "burying my head in the sand" is just bullshit.
JCreasy
Member
Hmm, I see more and more of the larger, more mainstream news outlets picking up on this now. It's very interesting, how this guy stirred up such a large 'hornet's nest' quickly by saying all this crap.
vikingvessel
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Jigolo
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Why wouldn't they report on this though? They reported on something as silly as Kaz saying "the competition can go first". They've reported on numerous rumors in the industry. Why not this?
Uno Venova
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Yahoo, NBC, Forbes, Time. But nah, only confined to enthusiast sites and a blip on the internet.