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[Askherserenity]

Lmao...they're actually doing it....oh god. Nice on him for confirming it though. Now I really don't need to worry about getting the next box. This guy just saved a lot of people a lot of money.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Neogaf gets articles?

That damage control...

 

[Yagharek]

1. Basically confirms always online
2. Makes terrible analogies
3. Acts like a twat while doing it

This is what we love

Sounds like a Polygon writer.

 

[CLEEK]

Offline mode to be locked behind the Live-paywall.

That you have to be signed into Live to access.

Maybe MS will F2P offline mode. 20 MS points for every extra minute over the 'free' 3 minutes you initially get. Just enter in your CC details, and it will start billing you until you next sign in again.

 

[xelios]

I can already see the damage control next:

"Guys, I was just giving my opinion on the matter! I really don't know anything!"

Hey congrats on your promotion to NeoGAF editor.

 

[kevinski]

People should keep in mind that Sony's been very careful to not talk about this whole always-online thing very much. If Microsoft actually goes through with this and ends up securing exclusive content from publishers who prefer this model, then expect Sony to cave and offer similar "security" to publishers who want it. Honestly, I don't think Sony's mind is completely made up about this. I feel that Sony would do this in a heartbeat if Microsoft was confirmed to be doing so, especially if it'd keep Sony from losing a valuable third-party partner.

 

[Elixist]

I'm holding out hope that he's just having a spot of fun at our expense.

im really thinking its this. why would this guy want to lose his job? unless he got the go ahead to poke fun. im thinking if there is always on crap or whatever it'll be like steam. first time boot of a game, checks net makes sure its legit, good 2 go even offline. if you always have to have the net to play a singleplayer game then im flabbergasted at their stupidity.

 

[Coxy]

Jason Schreier ‏@jasonschreier 4m
@deliciousbees Is your dog always online?

have to admit I laughed

 

[Cidd]

LMFAO "Is your dog always online?"

I was lmao at that comment.

 

[VeryGooster]

Neogaf gets articles?

Duh. That's how we actively try to fool the press.

 

[Tadale]

Huge disappointment if this thing really is online only.

 

[Meelow]

Durango will at least have third party games.

Wii U is basically a gutted Gamecube that had all its interesting features removed (competitive hardware and third party support).

Wii U looks worse in my eyes.


Edit: Even comparing it to Gamecube is giving it too much credit.

Well actually if the Xbox 720 fails as a gamer's console and the game sales aren't that good than a Wii U version for multiplats are a much better possibility, especially if the hardware and game sales goes up.

 

[Twilight Gap]

LMFAO "Is your dog always online?"

lol I'm done

 

[B.O.O.M]

Give him about an hour until he has to tweet something to deny this train of thought.

Prophet! and he isn't even denying the always online bit yikes

 

[Rainbow In The Dark]

Thank goodness. Microsoft has been effectively paying my salary for the past 8 years.
I still get to have an opinion.

Thanks for the clarification, Rainbow in the Dark.

It's a reference to this tweet https://twitter.com/aegies/status/310282795564015616 :lol

 

[WarMacheen]

Maybe he should try an always up in his ass foot.

 

[GuardianE]

Orth has bad opinions.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Always on is not a bad thing. Does neogaf not understand this? Always on in itself is fine.

its using that always on feature as a mechanism for DRM that's the problem.

my cell phone is always online, my home server is always online, my laptop is always on.

its using it for DRM that causes problems.

 

[methodman]

Lol at fellow "industry" members backing this guy up.

 

[i-Lo]

For the time being (until Microsoft says otherwise) it is.

As a great man once said,

Probably confirmed now.
So many rumours and now this. Kotaku already had a source confirm it to them just they were unsure because of other devs being in the dark whilst Edge already had it confirmed.

So we are there imo; its for MS to deny.

Ah, thank you so much.

 

[Megasoum]

People should keep in mind that Sony's been very careful to not talk about this whole always-online thing very much. If Microsoft actually goes through with this and ends up securing exclusive content from publishers who prefer this model, then expect Sony to cave and offer similar "security" to publishers who want it. Honestly, I don't think Sony's mind is completely made up about this. I feel that Sony would do this in a heartbeat if Microsoft was confirmed to be doing so, especially if it'd keep Sony from losing a valuable third-party partner.

I'm pretty sure Sony openly said after the conference the other day that the PS4 would not be always online and would support used games.

 

[Mifune]

People should keep in mind that Sony's been very careful to not talk about this whole always-online thing very much.

You mean except for denying its inclusion at every given opportunity?

 

[everyday math]

Is the internet universally bad in Wisconsin? My girlfriend just moved there and has horrible internet.

No, its not at all. I live in the Northeast section and we do just fine up here.

 

[Guess Who]

Adam Orth? Without reading 30 pages of thread, is this the same Adam Orth I know from his connections to Weezer? Please say yes.

EDIT: hahaha holy shit it is.

 

[El_Chino]

I really hope UF's internet doesn't fail me!

 

[hitmon]

Regardless, I think the Next XBox will sell well. The general public won't even notice until after they purchase it and their internet goes out while playing.

 

[kittens]

Wow, I've never seen that before. I wish the best for him and his family.

 

[Sponge]

I like playing Kinect with the family and friends. Also I play XBLA a lot. After 11/06/12, all Halo, only Halo.

All Halo, only Halo?

Even without Bungie? I just couldn't handle that, not even Nintendo can bank on Mario and only Mario.

 

[Mrbob]

Is the internet universally bad in Wisconsin? My girlfriend just moved there and has horrible internet.

Depends on where you live. I'm in the city so I'm fine. In fact, I have access to one of the better internet providers in the country (Charter Cable. Sucks for everything else but great at internet). I get 30Mbps, and could go up 60 if i wanted. But if you get outside the city limits there are a ton of dead zones where there is no broadband coverage at all.

 

[whatsinaname]

I still don't see this happening. MS will let his run for a couple of weeks just to make their actual implementation more palatable (which I think will be an online check at game launch and game registration to Live ID a la Steam).

 

[Eusis]

I only feel as though requiring people have their Xbox connected to the Internet would make games better and enable more social/community elements in games. Forcing game developers to build games for backwards individuals who haven't figured out they should connect their console to the Internet is hurting the medium not helping it.

So don't force them to develop games that depend on players being offline, there's plenty of games that do just that even on Sony and Nintendo platforms already (FFXI and DQX anyone?), you weren't going to be selling to more than maybe a fourth of a console base anyway, so if your design requires being online always just do it.

Nevermind that they'd effectively be designing as if you're offline always if they're still requiring a Live subscription for online gaming purposes anyway, in which case the always online is just a way to stuff ads down your throat.

EDIT: Also, as noted FORCING those kinds of features in a game does no good anyway. Comes off as heavily extroverted people not getting introverted people and forcing social stuff on them rather than considering if it's a good idea for game design. That is, the ideal is Demon's Souls, not Facebook updates on your achievements or game progress.

 

[Raitosaito]

People should keep in mind that Sony's been very careful to not talk about this whole always-online thing very much. If Microsoft actually goes through with this and ends up securing exclusive content from publishers who prefer this model, then expect Sony to cave and offer similar "security" to publishers who want it. Honestly, I don't think Sony's mind is completely made up about this. I feel that Sony would do this in a heartbeat if Microsoft was confirmed to be doing so, especially if it'd keep Sony from losing a valuable third-party partner.

Except the mass media interviews stating they will support used games....

 

[Respawn]

Is essentially what he's saying about living in smaller, more rural areas. Granted, I get he was "joking" I understand that, I don't have a bad connection in the slightest. But, why mock those that do?

Hey isn't that the Blonde Lady from the Orange Juice commercials now as a brunette?

 

[EMT0]

Watch MS remove always online now due to this backlash. It's all GAF's fault guys. Shame on you all.

Spoiler

Keep up the good work

 

[jschreier]

Jason Schreier ‏@jasonschreier 4m
@deliciousbees Is your dog always online?

have to admit I laughed

Here at Kotaku we ask the hard questions.

 

[Order]

People hoping Sony do the same are weird.

 

[Krappadizzle]

There would be one reason and absolutely only one reason I'd buy an always online console next generation. And that would be if it exclusively had the next iteration of

RDR

If 720 had that as an exclusive, I'd be the bad consumer and just buy it. But as that is very unlikely, It'll be a long time until I get a next-gen console.

 

[clem84]

He wouldn't be defending it like that unless it was true. Well, it's pretty much confirmed in my book.

 

[Gorillaz]

Jason Schreier ‏@jasonschreier 4m
@deliciousbees Is your dog always online?

have to admit I laughed

/dead

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Requiring broadband was said to be anti-consumer.
DLC and microtransactions was said to be anti-consumer.
Kinect space requirements was said to be anti-consumer.

... It still sort of is in the majority of cases?

Also I don't remember space considerations directly being called anti-consumer, just a poorly thought-through aspect of the Kinect.

 

[kingocfs]

Except the mass media interviews stating they will support used games....

What about the Gamestop Durango praise then?

 

[freenudemacusers]

People hoping Sony do the same are weird.

Especially since they have plainly stated they will not.

 

[JDSN]

Here at Kotaku we ask the hard questions.

"Fair, balanced and panty shots."

 

[Uno Venova]

People hoping Sony do the same are weird.

That's pretty much been the reaction to every negative durango rumor. Really sad to hope everyone will be anti-consumer to take the attention away from MS.

 

[Crawl]

NOW ALL WE NEED IS SOME MOTHAFUCKIN DYACK IN THIS BITCH!

 

[Neuromancer]

Here at Kotaku we ask the hard questions.

Haha

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Well

But sometimes you should not "troll" to your friends yet if the times is not right

 

[jay]

This will blow over, almost everyone upset by the online thing will still buy the console. This cycle has happened before and will happen again.

 

[Revven]

This is amazing, lol.

The meltdown!

 

[Mifune]

Especially since they have plainly stated they will not.

Well since the statements don't exaaaactly match up there's always that inkling of a chance that Microsoft isn't going off that cliff alone.