I don't think he's talking about GAF's and consumers' distrust of always online, more Orth and other MS reps trying to push always online as actually viable.
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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I don't think he's talking about GAF's and consumers' distrust of always online, more Orth and other MS reps trying to push always online as actually viable.
EYEL1NER
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What is the story there? I was actually just thinking about A Master Ninja last night while reading this thread; saw a post from a member with an Itagaki avatar and thought 'I haven't seen any AMN posts in a while.'
EDIT: NVM, beaten with a link.
michaelius
Banned
Manveer is a game designer at Bioware.
I felt fsorry for this guy for some time but i guesss not anymore
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Maybe they hack in and steal the wires
I felt fsorry for this guy for some time but i guesss not anymore
I am beginning to feel sorry for the guy, this has gotten soooo huge now.
I honestly cannot remember. All I know is something AMN posted triggered a bout of rage in Jeff Bell and hilarity ensued.
Twilight Gap
Member
I had no idea game pirating was so big that it'd reach this point. I wonder when Blu-Ray's and DVD's will require internet and DRM's to play discs.
They'll have to put in a lap dance from Cortana to get me to buy Durango just for Halo.
You'd think the latter, but I feel like gamers would be more likely to put up with "Always On" than casual consumers.
Twilight Gap
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grimshawish
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Certainly in the long term.
EYEL1NER
Member
Gotcha. Saw the links above.
That would be awesome, too bad I have no photoshop here
I made one with "Pew! Pew!" for a thread here a couple if years ago. I'll dig it up when I get outta bed.
ElectricKaibutsu
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Voice of Reason
Banned
*COUGH COUGH* Polygon
I don't know if anyone has pointed it out yet, but this news shouldn't have become too terribly surprising, given Microsoft's strategy in the PC Market. The new edition of Microsoft Office REQUIRES an always on connection, Age of Empires II HD has NO LAN. This is not just one area of the company trying this, it's a company wide initiative.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
If it's not ture,it won't have any damage,they have tons of time to marketing their console.Best part about all of this is that even IF the always online isn't true, the damage is already done.
Yep, this is a major issue in this whole "always online" discussion. It's not a requirement to be online, it's a requirement to be connected to very specific servers. if those servers have issues, it doesn't matter if you are online or not, you simply can't fulfill the requirement and are pretty much fucked. your ISP has accidentally blocked a range of IPs and those specific servers are part of them? Yeah, you're online, but still fucked. Any issues involving the connection with those servers, regardless of issues in your side, their side or in between, will get you fucked.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Sweet Billy? Fucking-LOL. Detective-GAF never ceases to amaze me.
Or summed up... Microsoft employee posts too much on twitter and greatly fuels the rumours of always-online Xbox.
pslayer666
Member
I dunno if this's been posted yet since I just started reading this thread but his twitter is on lock-down atm:
I dunno if this's been posted yet since I just started reading this thread but his twitter is on lock-down atm:
It already has been for ages. What a pansy.
Those analogies in the op are so cringeworthy. I just don't understand why they would force you to be connected to play single player games. It can't be drm, that would just be a pr disaster and they can't be that stupid (seriously they can't).
It must be tied into some of the system's new features. Online and social integration for every game isn't enough to require you to be connected 100% of the time for sp games. The only thing I can think of is that they are using cloud computing for things like voice recognition and they don't want devs worrying about not every user being able to use this feature like what happened to them this gen with hard drives.
It must be tied into some of the system's new features. Online and social integration for every game isn't enough to require you to be connected 100% of the time for sp games. The only thing I can think of is that they are using cloud computing for things like voice recognition and they don't want devs worrying about not every user being able to use this feature like what happened to them this gen with hard drives.
Voice of Reason
Banned
I dunno if this's been posted yet since I just started reading this thread but his twitter is on lock-down atm:
He probably locked/unlocked it about 3 times last night.
Wow, I just discovered this thread after posting my refusal to believe Microsoft will take this approach in the other thread. I can't refuse anymore.
Oh my god, he has a GAF account? That's priceless.
Oh my god, he has a GAF account? That's priceless.
toddhunter
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The serious answer is so you are much more likely to buy DLC/microtransactions if you are already online and your account is set up.
The more cynical answer is that this will not be a problem for single player games...because there wont be any.
Castef
Banned
Ok, i guess the situation is getting a bit out of control...
http://www.vg247.com/2013/04/05/man-slams-xbox-720-always-on-policy-destroys-360-with-axe/
http://www.vg247.com/2013/04/05/man-slams-xbox-720-always-on-policy-destroys-360-with-axe/
Voice of Reason
Banned
Shinobi, how does it feel to make the world burn?
A guy acting in a video. Don't look too much into it.
Agree, all this story is funny to read but it's just now, people should stop dooming MS next console before launch.
I would think you could look at his avatar pic and tell...
Castef
Banned
Exactly. Using that for a news article?
Voice of Reason
Banned
hahaha
Hydrargyrus
Member
Well, this is why I love GAF.
I left the thread in page 21 and when I return, in page 40 I found all that detectiveGAF stuff.
Sweeeeeeeeeeet Billy!
PS: Legendary thread. Glad to be here
I left the thread in page 21 and when I return, in page 40 I found all that detectiveGAF stuff.
Sweeeeeeeeeeet Billy!
PS: Legendary thread. Glad to be here
I have no qualms about, say, paying a subscription for a game that do requires to be always online like a MMORPG. But what we have here is an entirely different beast.
This shit is analogous to BMW selling a new car by "OMG ONLY 6000 USD" and then putting in small print that this is just a rental cost and that they reserve the right to retrieve "their" car whenever they feel like. I wonder how the hell can anyone defend such a vomotive business practice, much less a "gaming journalist".
I do think that there are solid legal grounds for suing EA and similar companies for at least fake advertising, for they are selling a subscritpion-based service as an actual product (Sim City), and making the consumer pay for its total cost beforehand regardless of said service being actually provided.
RobotRocker
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EdwardTivrusky
Member
I doubt the next xbox is doomed. I won't be getting one if the always online requirement is true but i'm under no illusion that i represent the masses who just want FIFA or Halo.
jakonovski
Member
Twitter is a loaded gun, is all I can say.
gaming_noob
Member
Anyone else not able to sleep over this news? My pillow is still damp from bitter tears.
Fuuuck this thread is HUUUUUUUUGE!
it didn't even exist when I was on just earlier today and now look at the size of it!!
Fuck this guy by the way. Try living in Australia where half the Internet infrastructure is so outdated your lucky to get dial up speeds off your "adsl2+" connection and there's nothing you can do about it!
Cant wait until this launches if true to witness the massive fallout that ensues after every one logging in kills xbl and they can't play games on their shiney new console.
Dat returns policy.
Dem ps4 sales.
Ill be sitting this one out for sure, got way too burnt this gen.
it didn't even exist when I was on just earlier today and now look at the size of it!!
Fuck this guy by the way. Try living in Australia where half the Internet infrastructure is so outdated your lucky to get dial up speeds off your "adsl2+" connection and there's nothing you can do about it!
Cant wait until this launches if true to witness the massive fallout that ensues after every one logging in kills xbl and they can't play games on their shiney new console.
Dat returns policy.
Dem ps4 sales.
Ill be sitting this one out for sure, got way too burnt this gen.
Sure but what about the classic, put my disk in my console and play wherever I am. I mean even my 360 is currently not connected to the internet. I can see many things going online only but a console that requires me to be connected to play my games? No.