Shogmaster
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90% of his collection is Grunts facials.
Microsoft Surface Pro 4 announced: "better in nearly every way" (The Verge)
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90% of his collection is Grunts facials.
Nice, thanks for the info. Now to scrounge up the dough for the version I want...
VisceralBowl
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Has anybody else been experiencing random wifi disconnects? My SP4 is practically unusable right now because the wifi's constantly dropping out.
Stephen_drewz
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Been doing some reading trying to decide whether I want the i5 256gb 8gb or the i7 256gb 8gb and all I find is comments about problems with the devices. Has me really worried about purchasing one now especially when even the i5 is going to cost me over $2000AUD.
Will mostly be used for on-the-go coding etc so I don't need one immediately but it would be really handy to have.
Will mostly be used for on-the-go coding etc so I don't need one immediately but it would be really handy to have.
I changed my system to Hibernate on power button press a while ago, which solved all of my battery draining issues, but it's quite annoying if you accidentally press it when reaching for the volume controls or handling the system! :O
Both! The bugs are still there but relatively few, and the overall experience is pretty great.
Forsete
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Nope.
But it has happened before on other computers I have. Usually it is solved by going to the device manager and uninstalling the drivers, after that reboot and the system should rediscover the drivers again.
Not disconnects, but when waking it up, it has taken longer to connect than usual. Used to be instant, now can take 30-60 seconds.
Gotta say that after a few months with this, it's my favorite laptop ever, even over a macbook pro. I don't use the stylus as much as I expected (wish it mimiced a mouse better). My one wish for SP4 would be a keyboard that could contain a smaller stylus, similar to how DS/3DS do it. The magnet just isn't strong enough.
BeforeU
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There is no hardware issue. Software bugs, two major once as far as I can tell.
1). Intel video driver
2). Putting it on sleep does not work as it should
Just saw some posters with light bleed and dead pixels but they could just be one off cases.
EatinOlives
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Doesn't hibernate hurt SSDs?
Nearly bought one nearly new yesterday - price of the base i5 would have got me the i5+type cover+dock. But missed out 
Think I've set my threshold on price and model - I'll be happy with the m3/i5 4GB but I want at least 10% off, either buying used or with the discounts I've seen from retailers and MS on the SP3 all through last year. Basically in my head getting me the full SP4+type cover for the sticker price of the SP4 itself.
Think I've set my threshold on price and model - I'll be happy with the m3/i5 4GB but I want at least 10% off, either buying used or with the discounts I've seen from retailers and MS on the SP3 all through last year. Basically in my head getting me the full SP4+type cover for the sticker price of the SP4 itself.
Is this true, or an old wive's tale? I remember people would often state SSDs and Flash drives had a very limited number of writes.
It's true only in the sense that you're making use of the drive. When you hibernate the system it's memory is dumped to a file on the drive, so you're looking at a file 3+GB being written each time you do it.
But I honestly wouldn't worry about it. The SSDs life isn't very limited it's several years of regular use and I would include hibernating in this. I can't recall it's name but there is a tool which can interrogate the drive and extract an estimate of it's remaining lifespan.
is the surface pro 4 worth double the SP3? I can probably buy an i5/4GB/128SSD SP3 used for £400/425, Vs £850 for the i5/4GB/128SSD SP4 new. Used one is still under warranty. I'd buy a type cover 4 either way
My main worry is fan noise/throttling etc which does seem a lot better on the SP4. But that is a big difference in price..
edit: screw it, on chat to MS now and they're saying my son's school is eligible (or they didn't check) so I'm buying SP4 i5/4GB with bright blue keyboard
My main worry is fan noise/throttling etc which does seem a lot better on the SP4. But that is a big difference in price..
edit: screw it, on chat to MS now and they're saying my son's school is eligible (or they didn't check) so I'm buying SP4 i5/4GB with bright blue keyboard
People that have had the SP3 for a while seem pretty annoyed by the fan and throttling, so I wouldn't opt into that at this point. Might depend upon what your needs are, and perhaps an M3 SP4 would be a better compromise.
edit: oh, just saw your edit. I'm very happy with my SP4 i5.
Have fun with it!People that have had the SP3 for a while seem pretty annoyed by the fan and throttling, so I wouldn't opt into that at this point. Might depend upon what your needs are, and perhaps an M3 SP4 would be a better compromise.
edit: oh, just saw your edit. I'm very happy with my SP4 i5.
now I just have to hide it until I've sold my yoga 700 and mac mini to pay for it
LyleLanley
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Has anyone else run into the issue where the Surface will go to sleep after about a minute or two of using it?
Been in the market for a surface pro for awhile now and was super close to picking up an i5/128gb pro 4 but got a really good deal on a pro 3 i7/500gb (cheaper than the pro 4 i5/128 which is why I had a hard time passing it up). Heat and throttling dont really seem anywhere as problematic as reported in the past. Obviously all the updates help along with some other variables but I'm digging it. The battery situation is a bit meh though.
Waiting on fedex to deliver my type cover today. Whats the verdict on screen protectors? Even a need and if so how much of an impact do they have on note taking?
Waiting on fedex to deliver my type cover today. Whats the verdict on screen protectors? Even a need and if so how much of an impact do they have on note taking?
Any generic one should work, but only the official one will support LAN booting, if that is important for you.
VisceralBowl
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Is the battery supposed to drain while it's shut down (not in sleep)? I've been experiencing severe battery drain while turned off for a while now. I charged it to around 90% and then turned it off as a test and when I came back a few days later the charge was 8%.
I'm using hibernate in lieu of sleep right now, which is a bit of a pain but I've not had problems with it losing power when I'm not using it. With that in mind, it should definitely retain power while off.
Turns out the problem is the lock screen, once I turned off require password on wake up the tablet wakes up properly.
When you power off, it actually takes about ten seconds after the screen turns off before it actually shuts down.
Do you have a type cover? When you shut down, touch the touchpad on it, the key lights will probably illuminate. Once they turn off you know you've fully shut down.
If you shut the type cover before it fully shuts down, it actually puts itself into sleep mode instead.
I learned this after accidentally going 100%-0% when I thought I shut it down back in December, then discovered the truth online.
VisceralBowl
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Will see if that's it. I've been shutting it down as soon as the screen shuts off.
Thanks!
The Faceless Master
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their limit is one power cord ... but i have two chargers. wtf Microsoft!?
Joel Was Right
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Is there a way to save screenshots via the double-clicking of the pen into the clipboard? I'd like to insert my clippings directly into my PowerPoint slides.
They should automatically be saved to the screenshots folder within my pictures .... On your onedrive
Anton Sugar
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lol
The NFL no longer incorrectly refers to Surface tablets as iPads, but apparently, the Surfaces for the Patriots were crapping out during the game.
That brand recognition.
The NFL no longer incorrectly refers to Surface tablets as iPads, but apparently, the Surfaces for the Patriots were crapping out during the game.
That brand recognition.
Joel Was Right
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I meant...I'd like it to insert automatically into my app of choice just like it does OneNote when double-clicking. I don't want to go into a folder and paste the image in.
Joel Was Right
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It kept disconnecting so I opened it up and took the battery out. Now it won't even power on or pair with the surface.
I realize might be a pain in the butt, but you could take it to a store and see if you can get another pen to pair with it - and the store is fantastic at dealing with little issues like that.
It was the network*. Not the devices. Bellicheck was trying to log into the Broncos playbook.#
*Not joke.
#joke.
I know some applications tend to activate the fan more than others. I stopped using Chrome and Edge, and started using Opera. I've been much happier with performance, and I only hear the fan fire up when I'm doing really heavy colouring work in art programs.
I believe the i7 is more likely to fire up the fan than the i5, too.
Joel Was Right
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Had my faulty pen replaced. But this too has the same issue of disconnecting. Evidence puts to a software issue rather than hardware.
I thought reviews had it as quiet unless you're thrashing it? Just web bruising or streaming video shouldn't do that?
Well at least mine (i7 model) behaves just like that. When watching YouTube videos via the Hyper app, it doesn't even get warm.
Browsing Imgur however does turn on the fan, but that website's a piece of shit anyway.
Joel Was Right
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I'm loving my m3 model. Though admittedly I don't run any demanding apps, I've been using the camera, browsing photo galleries and watching hi-res videos without hearing anything.
The fan noise issues seem to relate to the i5 and i7 models in particular.
The fan noise issues seem to relate to the i5 and i7 models in particular.
brotkasten
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The m3 model has no fan.
Joel Was Right
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Yes, sorry I misspoke. I was trying to say that I don't notice any performance issues.
I just bought an i5 so I'm slightly wary. Quiet would be more important than performance as I have a desktop to go with it anyway.
Wasn't going to set it up yet but I guess I should while I'm still in the 30 day return window.
Archaeopteryx
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I got the i5 about three weeks ago and fan noise hasn't been an issue for me. The only time I notice it is when I'm running intensive applications or games, and even then it's not very loud for me.
I'm loving my i5. I do a lot of VFX work, and rotoscoping is much much easier and faster with the pen than it ever was with a mouse.
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