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Considering Bush and his cronies spent the last two weeks blaming local and state officials, I'm not sure how well he'd be able to rewrite history and blame Mike Brown. Besides, we all know Bush won't turn on a friend. Brown's probably off to join Albaugh to profit off Bush's messes.
 
And just like that all the blame can be placed on Brown(doesn't matter he doesn't work there anymore!) and Bush will swim through this one smelling like roses....
 
Is there a place where a guy can go and work for a hurricane? This is just reminding me of the one guy in the 'environment deperatment' or whatever who resigned because he was caught changing evidence to make them disprove global warming, and then ends up getting a job at Exxon :lol
 
LakeEarth said:
Is there a place where a guy can go and work for a hurricane? This is just reminding me of the one guy in the 'environment deperatment' or whatever who resigned because he was caught changing evidence to make them disprove global warming, and then ends up getting a job at Exxon :lol



He could be one of those idiots that work for the Weather Channel and sit in 100mph winds and tell you what they see during the next hurricane. That would be hilarious.
 
argon said:
I got no problem with this.

But now people are somehow spinning this as another evil Bush deed.

We don't have to spin. The guy's an asshole, plain and simple. Anyone thinks contrary to that is just disconnected from reality. Or a lap dog. Or hates being completely and utterly wrong--and then admitting so.
 
Dan said:
Considering Bush and his cronies spent the last two weeks blaming local and state officials, I'm not sure how well he'd be able to rewrite history and blame Mike Brown. Besides, we all know Bush won't turn on a friend. Brown's probably off to join Albaugh to profit off Bush's messes.


Pfft, I can spin this :)

"The stress from the job was too much for him and it has traumatized him and his family so he is going to go off to do other things and I think this guy deserves a vacation...Brownie did a heck of a job..."
 
Phoenix said:
Pfft, I can spin this :)

"The stress from the job was too much for him and it has traumatized him and his family so he is going to go off to do other things and I think this guy deserves a vacation..."

+1 Phoenix spin abilities! ;)
 
CNN today shows an approval rating of the president way up to 46%, when taken from September 8 to 11. It is the latest poll released on the issue, lasting longer than any other such poll from a major news group. This was done in conjunction with USA Today and Gallup.
 
I still love the fact that Brown had to resign and couldn't be fired for incompetence. I'm rather surprised Bush didn't give him the Rumsfeld treatment and decline his resignation.

And when I say love, I mean abhor.
 
Lo-Volt said:
CNN today shows an approval rating of the president way up to 46%, when taken from September 8 to 11. It is the latest poll released on the issue, lasting longer than any other such poll from a major news group. This was done in conjunction with USA Today and Gallup.
Don't worry, when there are hearings the "blame game" will be in full effect.
 
I dont want the head of homeland security doesnt escape unscathed either since they essentially runs f.e.m.a now that they have been depowered.

I really hope by the end of this whole debacle, f.e.m.a is separated from the department of homeland security.
 
It might actually be a good idea for FEMA to stay in homeland security, however their priorities and funding definitely need revamped -- completely.

Homeland Security's original intentions didn't seem that bad to me... it's the leadership that's the problem IMO.
 
FEMA should be apart from Homeland Security. Back when it was on it's own it had the authority to direct like 12 different agencies and oversee everything. This was during Clinton's administration. Not saying that Clinton had anything to do with that, I'm sure it was that way under Bush Sr as well, but FEMA was a Clinton admin success story. Bush has this nasty habit of doing the complete opposite of everything Clinton had...apparently even the good stuff.
 
Such a joke... I'd be very surprised if Bush regains legitimacy after his presidency in the private sector. Who the fuck would want to work for him? He forces people to tell him what he wants to hear, then when it backfires, despite what they do, he fires them and blames them for it anyways. What a fucking cocksucker. I hope the IRS catches his ass in 10 years and nails him for tax evasion or some shit, just so he'll be reviled throughout history.
 
pnjtony said:
FEMA should be apart from Homeland Security. Back when it was on it's own it had the authority to direct like 12 different agencies and oversee everything. This was during Clinton's administration. Not saying that Clinton had anything to do with that, I'm sure it was that way under Bush Sr as well, but FEMA was a Clinton admin success story. Bush has this nasty habit of doing the complete opposite of everything Clinton had...apparently even the good stuff.

FEMA was really not much better on its own...

Clinton's Mythical FEMA
 
Does no one blame the city of New Orleans for how they were so monumentally unprepared to handle this disaster? And how they didn't fix their levees years ago?
 
mmlemay said:
Does no one blame the city of New Orleans for how they were so monumentally unprepared to handle this disaster? And how they didn't fix their levees years ago?

You're right this conversation has never come up in the multiple threads... good job!
 
mmlemay said:
Does no one blame the city of New Orleans for how they were so monumentally unprepared to handle this disaster? And how they didn't fix their levees years ago?

You should be the head of FEMA. What do you know about Arabian horses?
 
DarienA said:
You're right this conversation has never come up in the multiple threads... good job!

In this thread, it's BUSH, BUSH, BUSH. He screwed up, true, but most of the blame lies with the governments of New Orleans and Louisiana. That's all I'm saying.
 
argon said:
FEMA was really not much better on its own...

Clinton's Mythical FEMA

I love the sourcing of that article. Newsmax? Not to mention the apples-to-oranges comparison between Floyd and Katrina. There was a VERY coordinated and immediate response to Floyd with respect to getting people out of danger. There were so many Coast Guard helicopters in Rocky Mount lifting people off roofs that one was dedicated to air traffic control. Yes, there was freshwater flood deaths-2/3 of them were due to people getting trapped in vehicles. It was a really rough storm but the response wasn't a incomprehensible human tragedy like Katrina is.

Oh, and for the record:

Clinton spoke twice Wednesday with James Lee Witt, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to keep abreast of Hurricane Floyd's progress. He also consulted with Vice President Al Gore.

This was when the hurricane was 200-300 miles off the coast.

The massive storm also prompted Clinton to cut short a day of rest planned for Hawaii on the way back from New Zealand, where he had attended the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum.

By canceling the Hawaii visit, Clinton will be back in Washington on Wednesday night, instead of Thursday morning.

''The president wants to return quickly to stay on top of the hurricane developments,'' said Clinton spokesman Jake Siewert.

Clinton raced back to Washington days before the storm hit. Chimpy McCokeperson didn't make it back to Washington until days after the storm hit, and stayed the night in Texass along the way.

DISGRACEFUL.
 
mmlemay said:
Does no one blame the city of New Orleans for how they were so monumentally unprepared to handle this disaster? And how they didn't fix their levees years ago?

I'm sure the City of New Orleans and the surrounding parishes would like to be in control of the yearly Defense appropriations bill, but that's just not quite the case. The levees are built managed, and maintained by the US Army Corps of Engineers, and have been for decades (since after Betsy in the 1960s, I believe).
 
Macam said:
Apparently Bush still doesn't know what's going on:



Sigh.
Yeah, I saw that on CNN earlier. Right afterwards CNN read Brown's statement, which said he had told Bush of reason to resign, something about his presence being a distraction. So either Brown's statement was in written form and hadn't gotten to Bush yet, or Bush wasn't prepared to respond and lied.

Also, Bush's use of emergency workers as background props is really getting obscene.
 
mmlemay said:
In this thread, it's BUSH, BUSH, BUSH. He screwed up, true, but most of the blame lies with the governments of New Orleans and Louisiana. That's all I'm saying.
No, a lot of it lies at the federal level. NO needed those levees fixed. If they don't get the funding, they can't do it, no matter how much they want to. I'm not saying they are perfect, but you can't get pissed at them for just having to learn to deal with all they had accessible to them...
 
mmlemay said:
Does no one blame the city of New Orleans for how they were so monumentally unprepared to handle this disaster? And how they didn't fix their levees years ago?


Yeah, its not like it hasn't been well know for years by the city and the federal government that it would require many billions of dollars to fix the problem. Since New Orleans isn't rolling in dough of the $16+ billion dollar variety and have request over several decades through various studies to the state and the federal level to fix the problem - sure, they should have fixed those levees years ago. I mean the city is sinking because its weighed down by millions of tons of gold :)
 
mmlemay said:
In this thread, it's BUSH, BUSH, BUSH. He screwed up, true, but most of the blame lies with the governments of New Orleans and Louisiana. That's all I'm saying.

For a number of years they have asked for funding to fix their leeves but Washington failed to fund them.. Bush approved a budget, which was less than half of what they asked for to do the upgrades...So the blame does lay directly at Bush's feet
 
The fed fucked up big time...now we'll spend orders of magnitudes more to clean it up than we would have spent fixing the levees like our own engineers and scientists warned us.

Shitty fiscal policy. Pennywise and pount foolish, and now we all pay.
 
You know, I've been thinking how much material they are giving The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

Jon Stewart is gonna be workin' overtime.
 
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