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[Measley]

Not my Vice-president.

 

[Red]

What happens when innocent people are inevitably tortured? Oh well? Shouldn't have been born in the middle east?

Vote in the midterms.

Donald wants to kill the families of terrorists, remember. He don't care.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

Let's just repost the Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture's main findings:

Trump knows better than the CIA, army generals, the FBI and anyone else you care to bring up against him.

 

[bidguy]

i thought it was pretty much general knowledge that torture doesnt work. especially against people who are willing to blow themselves to pieces.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

“Believe me, it works,” he told the Columbus crowd. “And you know what? If it doesn't work, they deserve it anyway, for what they're doing. It works.”

You see, this is the problem I have with with the support of things like torture and the death penalty. Even though we have well-researched evidence showing that it isn't effective (gathering information through torture and deterring crime with the death penalty),and innocent lives can very easily be the target, there are a disturbing amount of people who just don't care.

As long as the idea of something so violent being done to keep people safe is in their minds, it doesn't matter whether or not it works are if it's happening to actual perpetrators. It's fucking maddening that people can be so cruel.

i thought it was pretty much general knowledge that torture doesnt work. especially against people who are willing to blow themselves to pieces.

It's not just that, but the fact that people who are being tortured are goaded into saying what they think the torturer wants. You can tell the actual truth and it doesn't cause the torture to stop if the answer isn't preferable.

 

[Hyun Sai]

You really think those guys will listen to science saying torture doesn't work when they deny climate change ?

 

[Kinyou]

Let's just repost the Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture's main findings:

Did anyone face real consequences over this? It's so fucked up.

 

[Lonewolf_92]

If someone assassinates Trump.. let me find that mofo and knock his ass out for he did not know he fucked it up even more.

As if Trump isn't just Pence and company's figurehead and rubberstamp anyway. If Trump acts up in a way they don't like Pence will just take away his crayons, so removing Trump from the equation isn't really changing anything.

 

[Ogodei]

The group that's proudly taken on the "deplorable" mantle handed to them. Like the Coal-Rollers.

They kind of remind me of the nihilists from The Big Lebowski. They believe in nothing, so that allows them to be evil and not give a damn about that fact.

 

[Waldo Lydecker]

The GOP has so many potential for internal rift and conflict. It's my only hope in this dark timeline.

 

[commedieu]

What the fuck

Both sides.
Protest vote.
Economic anxiety.

 

[CitizenVectron]

Torture doesn't work though.

I'm so baffled by people who wish it did though. Like seriously, what is wrong with you for wanting torture to be effective?

This is they key. If it did work, then there could be a debate about values vs efficacy, and which (and when) one should win out. But we know that torture doesn't work. I mean, it does, but only if the person knows something. The problem is that we don't know what they know, so if they don't know anything at all they will still tell us something they think we want to hear.

 

[ArjanN]

This is they key. If it did work, then there could be a debate about values vs efficacy, and which (and when) one should win out. But we know that torture doesn't work. I mean, it does, but only if the person knows something. The problem is that we don't know what they know, so if they don't know anything at all they will still tell us something they think we want to hear.

I don't know, I think the fact that it doesn't really work, while true, is kind of beside the point.

I think it would be unacceptable even if it was effective.

 

[ReplacementPelican]

Literally makes us no better than them. How these people are unable to see that is beyond me.

I don't think they care. These people are depraved and blood thirsty.

 

[Knuckle Sandwich]

I mean we still torture people now and everyone seems cool with Obama. Just... like... keep it on the dl, guys. Jeez. Why go out of your way to be perceived as evil?

 

[Triggerhappytel]

This gif is going to be seeing an awful lot of use over the next four years.