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Mila Kunis told 'you'll never work in this town again'

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Zakalwe

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She sounds defiant and confident about it without being self-righteous. She's also pretty humble about her privilege in general.

I like her, and I'm glad she's figured out how to take her stand.

Mila Kunis is like my celeb crush, so I'm obviously bias but I would throw as much money as I could for her to be in a role. She's always super comfortable in her roles and she's always the most noticeable actor out of all her roles.

Of course she is, you luuuuuuurv her.
 

Beartruck

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Coming from a poor ass immigrant family where my uneducated father had to scoop slag out molten metal while standing on a burning piece of lumber and my mother had to sweat in a fur factory 12 hours a day on her feet, I do see the problem with inequity in western society.

I just don't think Kunis has a real grasp on suffering. The point you quoted also does not make sense. She only felt she could push back once she was raking in a quarter mill per ep to play some pushover woman on a horrible fucking show that isn't even funny? I'll go tell my grade 8 educated, toilet cleaning mother that. It'll really inspire her.

A creeper told her to get naked or he'd ruin her life. That's apparently not fucked up enough?
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
Good on her for bringing attention to the issue.

Yes, she's rich, but she speaks of a very real issue that women have to deal with in a lot of different fields, and not just show business. It's a real problem that needs to be curbed.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
Coming from a poor ass immigrant family where my uneducated father had to scoop slag out molten metal while standing on a burning piece of lumber and my mother had to sweat in a fur factory 12 hours a day on her feet, I do see the problem with inequity in western society.

I just don't think Kunis has a real grasp on suffering. The point you quoted also does not make sense. She only felt she could push back once she was raking in a quarter mill per ep to play some pushover woman on a horrible fucking show that isn't even funny? I'll go tell my grade 8 educated, toilet cleaning mother that. It'll really inspire her.

Not every story of inspiration is meant for everyone.

There is a huge deal of sexism in the entertainment industry, and regardless of their relative privilege they are being discriminated against and it needs attention.

Sure, a story like this won't mean much to people in poverty (for example), but it will stand as an ideal for women within the industry who don't feel like they can push back.

There's always someone worse off, that doesn't negate the need for ubiquitous change.
 

Tigress

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Coming from a poor ass immigrant family where my uneducated father had to scoop slag out molten metal while standing on a burning piece of lumber and my mother had to sweat in a fur factory 12 hours a day on her feet, I do see the problem with inequity in western society.

I just don't think Kunis has a real grasp on suffering. The point you quoted also does not make sense. She only felt she could push back once she was raking in a quarter mill per ep to play some pushover woman on a horrible fucking show that isn't even funny? I'll go tell my grade 8 educated, toilet cleaning mother that. It'll really inspire her.

And her point about how she is lucky cause she doesn't have to worry about putting food on the table is to point out that there are women who it is even worse for. In other words she's trying to point out how bad it is (it is that much a problem for her and imagine how much worse it is for those not in as good a position).

Your point is completely irrelevant as she's not trying to say she has it worst. She's trying to point out a problem women have and point out that as bad as she has it's, she's more lucky to point out how bad a problem it is overall.

And, btw, you don't have to have it worst not to have problems that affect your life. And being rich doesn't make people being sexist or even just assholes to you ok. And a rich person has every right to point out that hey have encountered sexism or racism or prejudice some how.
 
It's ironic because Meg is a character who's entire shtick on the show is to be insulted, sidelined, creatively ignored, and otherwise diminished based on her gender, so much so that it's become a running gag, and came about as a result of the writers freely confessing they didn't know how to write a teenager girl.

The parallel doesn't matter and certainly doesn't diminish Mila's point, I was just commenting on the irony of it.

I don't think there's a character like Meg in any other TV show. Usually the butt of the joke is an awkward teenager, and when its a girl, it's definetly not as portrayed in Meg.
 

Icefire1424

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It's pretty sad how prevalent the "old boys" club really is. I see it firsthand in the business world, no surprise it dominates the entertainment industry as well.
 
Hollywood being Hollywood.

Not surprised a little bit. I expect far worse stuff happening behind the curtains there.

I'm only surprised that people getting in there expect anything else. Hollywood seems like a pretty small industry compared to it's worldwide popularity. Just look at how many actors we see in multiple films per years. Remember that at one point I was really annoyed seeing Christian Bale AGAIN in some new movie.

It's not like they lack people trying to get in there. From what I've heard it's a friggin odyssey to get even a writing job in this industry. God knows how it must be when you actually wanna act and with that be in the spotlight.

Bottom end: When so many people wanna get in an industry this small, the people in power will eventually get assholes because there are always enough upcoming actors that are "willing to go the extra mile".

Not that I approve this (probably because of the that current Hollywood is more shallow than ever) but that's just how it is.
 

jett

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I had no idea she played Meg.

Anyway, whenever an article of this sort shows up (actors lambasting some anonymous producer), it's always disappointing how they won't name names.
 
I wonder what she would have amounted to if that 70s Show actually fired her when they found out she lied about her age to get that job.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
It's pretty sad how prevalent the "old boys" club really is. I see it firsthand in the business world, no surprise it dominates the entertainment industry as well.
Yeah, I really didn't know about it much until I met my wife, and started hearing about all the shit she's had to deal with as a woman in the tech industry.

When she was getting co-op jobs in school, her fucking university professor told her to her face that she only got a job because she's a girl.

Her fucking university professor. What the fuck.
 

Matty77

Member
Good for her man some of these arguments though.

You have to reach a certain level of power sometimes to take a stand. If she took this same stance 10 years ago she probably would not have all the things that people are arguing invalidates her.

Side note as a huge that 70's show fan Mila actually is an immigrant who's family while not poor left well paying jobs to come here with nothing because they didn't think the former Soviet Union had a future for their kids.

So she is kind of an example of the American dream in action.

That and saying she is a hypocrite while implying the whole sum of her parts is just attractiveness.

Shake my fucking head.
 

gatti-man

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...or maybe she was just a good actor on the show and people saw potential in her? She was like 16 when That 70's Show started and she did a damn good job of being an annoying character on the show. I would hope that would be the reason she got the job with family Guy and not that she was a hot 16 year old.

I find her to be a terrible actress. She's Mila Kunis in every role.
 

nitewulf

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I just don't think Kunis has a real grasp on suffering. The point you quoted also does not make sense. She only felt she could push back once she was raking in a quarter mill per ep to play some pushover woman on a horrible fucking show that isn't even funny? I'll go tell my grade 8 educated, toilet cleaning mother that. It'll really inspire her.
I think you are missing the point. First you gain power and a platform, then you push back. You can't do it before, as you said. Your parents had to do what they had to do, for you. But were either of them got promoted and scaled up to a position of authority, you bet they should then use that platform to fight injustice.
 

SpaceWolf

Banned
Is there a role where Mila Kunis was hired for her acting talent and not how she looks?
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Sort of?

She was bloody terrible in that film.

It's not a very fair complain regardless, given how pretty much every actor finds themselves cast in certain roles based on their visual appeal. What kind of roles has Cate Blanchett taken up where her looks were entirely irrelevant?
 

Jag

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Coming from a poor ass immigrant family where my uneducated father had to scoop slag out molten metal while standing on a burning piece of lumber and my mother had to sweat in a fur factory 12 hours a day on her feet, I do see the problem with inequity in western society.

I just don't think Kunis has a real grasp on suffering. The point you quoted also does not make sense. She only felt she could push back once she was raking in a quarter mill per ep to play some pushover woman on a horrible fucking show that isn't even funny? I'll go tell my grade 8 educated, toilet cleaning mother that. It'll really inspire her.

She was an immigrant who moved to the US at 7 with her family, totally broke and didn't speak a word of english.

They fled Russia out of fear. I'd say she knows what it's like to not have anything.
 
I don't think there's a character like Meg in any other TV show. Usually the butt of the joke is an awkward teenager, and when its a girl, it's definetly not as portrayed in Meg.
It's not just the butt of jokes, it encourages fat shaking, abuse to ugly people, ect. Meg might have had a point at one time but the character is literally the joke a woman has to fit a certain criteria or she's trash. I can't look at any other way to read it.

Edit: I didn't even say my thoughts on the story. Yeah good for her telling the stpry, shit needs to be heard.
 

KHlover

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Sort of?

She was bloody terrible in that film.

It's not a very fair complain regardless, given how pretty much every actor finds themselves cast in certain roles based on their visual appeal. What kind of roles has Cate Blanchett taken up where her looks were entirely irrelevant?

Charlize Theron had a few roles where she was definitely not cast because of how she looks.

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How she usually looks like

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How she looks like in Monster
 

SpaceWolf

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Charlize Theron had a few roles where she was definitely not cast because of how she looks.

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How she usually looks like

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How she looks like in Monster

Although this is certainly true, I think we can agree those kind of castings tend to be the exception and not the norm for the vast majority of actors, whether male or female, who happen to be attractive so therefore it doesn't do much good to dismiss them when they happen to be "hired for their looks".
 
Coming from a poor ass immigrant family where my uneducated father had to scoop slag out molten metal while standing on a burning piece of lumber and my mother had to sweat in a fur factory 12 hours a day on her feet, I do see the problem with inequity in western society.

I just don't think Kunis has a real grasp on suffering. The point you quoted also does not make sense. She only felt she could push back once she was raking in a quarter mill per ep to play some pushover woman on a horrible fucking show that isn't even funny? I'll go tell my grade 8 educated, toilet cleaning mother that. It'll really inspire her.

If you keep thinking along these lines, you can bet you will end up a bittered negative old (wo)man in life. Believe me, in my line of work i've seen plenty of people who do nothing else but complain about everything that they deem unfair in the world. Blaming everyone and everything that they have no idea what real pain/suffering/disadvantage is. Everyone in that group ends up angry, lonely and bittered. Not one exception have i come across (so far).

I may seem to extrapolate a lot from your post, but after a couple of years i have learnt to recognize this outlook in a second. That doesn't mean i can't be wrong, but let's just say my spidey sense is going off like crazy.
 
I think it's tangential (possibly sexist) that people are talking about the quality of her work when that has no relevance to these issues. No one would bring up Keanu Reeves' acting if he brought up injustices of stunt actor recognition or whatever.
 

Apathy

Member
People like the producer should be named. People like him exist and keep existing because they know that they get away with it. Sure an article like this gets written and they know who they are but no one else does and they can continue being the shitty person that they are.
 

Keri

Member
So, is this a thread about a woman brining a significant problem to light, only to be met with criticisms which suggest she should shut up, because worse things exist, followed up by direct criticisms of her? Is this one of those threads? Or do most people agree she has a right to highlight an awful thing that happened to her?
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
She said it pretty clearly that she realized it such discrimination happens to her, a well known celebrity, then things are likely to be worse for non-celebrity women. I don't know why you guys here are arguing about her being rich invalidated her opinion on this matter.
 
It's gotta be so hard to rake in a quarter mil per episode on Family Guy.

Worth 30 mil based entirely on her looks.

In a power marriage where combined net worth is near 200 mil.

What was the point of this post? Successful people are allowed to have problems too.

I feel like that was an attempt at minimizing sexism without ever attempting to understand it.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Glad she is speaking out. I can't begin to imagine what women go through in Hollywood. I imagine that, for many, it's a lot worse than this.

In a separate note, I met her once a few years ago. Unreal level of attractiveness.
 

Jag

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She said it pretty clearly that she realized it such discrimination happens to her, a well known celebrity, then things are likely to be worse for non-celebrity women. I don't know why you guys here are arguing about her being rich invalidated her opinion on this matter.

I know. She's says my success let's me actually talk about it without fear of losing my job, so I'm acting on behalf of all the woman who can't. It's pretty fucking admirable.
 

Rest

All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Too bad whoever it was wasn't right, then maybe all these movies that Mila Kunis has been shitting up might actually have good actresses in lead roles. If only, if only...
 

Armaros

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Too bad whoever it was wasn't right, then maybe all these movies that Mila Kunis has been shitting up might actually have good actresses in lead roles. If only, if only...

Yes because thats the really important thing.

whoever said these threads bring out the folks is right.
 

tuxfool

Banned
Too bad whoever it was wasn't right, then maybe all these movies that Mila Kunis has been shitting up might actually have good actresses in lead roles. If only, if only...
Yes, this is the part that matters...

Maybe I should do the public a service by telling you that this is a dickish comment. Maybe it will spare people from suffering you in the future.
 

Kin5290

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Coming from a poor ass immigrant family where my uneducated father had to scoop slag out molten metal while standing on a burning piece of lumber and my mother had to sweat in a fur factory 12 hours a day on her feet, I do see the problem with inequity in western society.

I just don't think Kunis has a real grasp on suffering. The point you quoted also does not make sense. She only felt she could push back once she was raking in a quarter mill per ep to play some pushover woman on a horrible fucking show that isn't even funny? I'll go tell my grade 8 educated, toilet cleaning mother that. It'll really inspire her.
This is great. In your attempt to attack out of touch Hollywood elites, you attack one of the few actresses who was a poor immigrant to America for being supposedly out of touch with the suffering experienced by poor immigrants.
 

Rest

All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Maybe I should do the public a service by telling you that this is a dickish comment. Maybe it will spare people from suffering you in the future.

Oh you think? Why, I would never have known had you not told me. What other sagacious wisdom do you have to offer?
 

Rest

All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
You're taking all the wrong lessons here.
What lessons are there here? Some unnamed person made an empty clichéd threat against a star and (shocker here) it came to nothing. That doesn't make Mila Kunis an inoffensive presence on a movie screen.
 

bengraven

Member
It's okay. Men's magazines are all dead now.

It used to bother me: "if a young star wants to get more popular they have to appear in Maxim or Stuff...but they have to also pose half naked to do so". It was weird. It was like going to Jonah Hill "hey bro, if you want a bigger career you'll need to take off the shirt for a lady's rag".

I kind of miss them some days though. Sure reading Buzzfeed with a phone in the bathroom gets me my LIST OF 100 BEST HORROR VILLAINS but the jokes were always great.
 
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