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Milo Yiannopoulos is Going on Real Time with Bill Maher

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Worth it to see two black guys tell him to fuck off
 

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This thread is almost entirely full of people castigating Maher for giving Milo Yiannopoulos a platform and more attention, and yet the thread itself is 52 pages long and has over 141,961 views.

Mission accomplished?

To add to the irony, more people have posted about Real Time and Bill Maher in the last week than the past 6 years. It is pure insanity.

Why? Because he failed upward astronomically with this guest? People are talking, but little of it is favorable. There is no irony to be had here since we've done a far better job at challenging Milo's stage time than he ever even attempted. Milo's platform is getting the exposure that Bill allowed. Unchallenged outside of these discussions. Mission accomplished then?
 

Erevador

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They should have slapped him in the mouth then it would have been worth it for me. I'll even settle for a glass of room temperature water being lobbed in his face.
Milo has been gaining publicity by talking about how the response to his "ideas" has been violence. What happened at Berkeley shocked people and increased his following.

And you suggest that the proper response to him from a panel of TV liberals is... assault?

Good strategy you've got there.
 
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thepotatoman

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So basically what you're saying that Maher brought this troll on his show for attention? I mean that wouldn't be wrong it just makes Maker look like a shit head and not any of us look hypocritical as you seem to be implying here

Well, there is the fact that protests seem to be giving Milo the name recognition that he wants, while the things they're protesting are also giving him the recognition that he wants.

The absolute ideal is that he doesn't get any recognition from anyone, but getting the recognition from college campuses to speak might have been as far as he ever goes, if the protests never happened. Now he's on TV again because of those protests, on a segment that's going viral because of people hating the segment.

It's a weird loop I'm not sure how to stop. It's not like people should be happy that he'd only be speaking at college campuses while doxing individuals on twitter for harassment without the protests.
 

Ashsturm

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He would have bodied Trevor Noah. For as much of an improvement over his role as Noah's shown, he's still a (notoriously, in some circles) poor interviewer.

But still good enough that I don't believe Milo would have seen him as a platform.

With Milo allowed to swat away questions he could be challenged upon and frame the conversation as a debate about free speech it really needed someone willing to stay on track rather than go for appeasement.

Someone should really buy Maher a beginner's guide to Socrates. Turn Milo's logic around and relate it to his own audience. Hell, he shouldn't be allowed in the men's bathroom by his own logic
 

BamfMeat

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I just watched an 11 minute segment and....

My fucking god he's a big-ass queen who's doing nothing more than trying to get attention. Everything he said was literally nothing but "LOOK AT ME I'M THE DEVIL!"

He's like Ann Coulter - he's there to do nothing else than piss you off by saying the absolutely most ridiculous thing you can think of. Literally.

I don't believe (have faith in) in people, as a general rule, but I firmly believe that only outliers agree and believe what he says is true. I truly do not believe any rational person believes or agrees with him.

Oh one other thing, the boy is campy as fuck. He gives Rocky Horror Picture Show a run for it's money in the camp department.
 
I don't think there was much for Bill to fire back on. Had Milo come out swinging, Maher for sure would've fired back at an equal force. Bill stated that he disagrees with many of the points Milo has made in the past. Milo says he loves free speech, and Maher agreed. . Maher going on a non-cordial attack wouldn't have been proper discourse.

Idk, the only part that really bothered me was in Overtime when Milo made some snarky comment about transgender folk and Bill more or less agreed with him. I could've sworn Maher was smarter and more progressive than that unless I missed something.

What exactly else has Milo said which is so controversial? I'm out of the loop, and don't follow him much.
 

royalan

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I just watched an 11 minute segment and....

My fucking god he's a big-ass queen who's doing nothing more than trying to get attention. Everything he said was literally nothing but "LOOK AT ME I'M THE DEVIL!"

He's like Ann Coulter - he's there to do nothing else than piss you off by saying the absolutely most ridiculous thing you can think of. Literally.

I don't believe (have faith in) in people, as a general rule, but I firmly believe that only outliers agree and believe what he says is true. I truly do not believe any rational person believes or agrees with him.

Oh one other thing, the boy is campy as fuck. He gives Rocky Horror Picture Show a run for it's money in the camp department.

Reposting, because people need to understand that the bold is not true, and that precisely the reason that fucks like Milo are so dangerous is because a shockingly large number of people already believe the same shit he does, or are poised to believe it:

While less than a majority, 46 percent of Americans say they think that transgender people should be allowed to use only public restrooms corresponding to their gender at birth. A smaller number, 41 percent, think transgender people should be allowed to use the restroom that matches the gender they identify with.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/us/politics/transgender-public-bathroom-poll.html

It is not at all a "small percentage of people" who would be susceptible to a bullshit sex crime statistic. Milo's shit is dangerous because there's a large group of people out there poised to believe it and give it power.

Milo is not a joke.
 
Maher is not progressive and has never been progressive. He's an "anti-PC" jackoff and a know-it-all, that's it. He made one documentary attacking religion and everyone assumes he's an ultra-liberal instead of the edgelord with a cable TV contract that he actually is.

No one should be surprised at what happened here. It's exactly what I and many others in this thread said would happen because we know how this bullshit works. Milo says some garbage unsubstantiated and false thing about how trans people are sexual predators and instead of shutting him down or asking for proof, Bill just kinda shrugs and lets him say it. It's total fuckery and Bill was not acting in good faith in this exchange.
 

BamfMeat

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Reposting, because people need to understand that the bold is not true, and that precisely the reason that fucks like Milo are so dangerous is because a shockingly large number of people already believe the same shit he does, or are poised to believe it:


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/us/politics/transgender-public-bathroom-poll.html

It is not at all a "small percentage of people" who would be susceptible to a bullshit sex crime statistic. Milo's shit is dangerous because there's a large group of people out there poised to believe it and give it power.

Milo is not a joke.

Thanks for reaffirming that I really should hate the general public even more.
 

Sanjuro

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Maher is not progressive and has never been progressive. He's an "anti-PC" jackoff and a know-it-all, that's it. He made one documentary attacking religion and everyone assumes he's an ultra-liberal instead of the edgelord with a cable TV contract that he actually is.

Most progressives have no idea what they are anyway.
 

LionPride

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Maher is not progressive and has never been progressive. He's an "anti-PC" jackoff and a know-it-all, that's it. He made one documentary attacking religion and everyone assumes he's an ultra-liberal instead of the edgelord with a cable TV contract that he actually is.
Brian from Family Guy is based on Maher and McFarlene. That is all
 
Yep. Maher is in the same category as Richard "Picked a fight with a Muslim kid" Dawkins.

Also, it's kind of dismaying how many times I talk to people about Milo where the conversation ends with "Oh, I didn't realize that he doxed a trans person the last time he was on stage." Like, I just wish people cared about being educated on a subject as much as they do talking about it.
 
The absolute worst part is that this dude is British and he's here in America stirring the pot and lighting gas fires.

Fucking our shit up and he ain't even a citizen.

Pardon me if he is a US citizen. Overtime made it seem like he wasn't
 
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thepotatoman

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I don't think there was much for Bill to fire back on. Had Milo come out swinging, Maher for sure would've fired back at an equal force. Bill stated that he disagrees with many of the points Milo has made in the past. Milo says he loves free speech, and Maher agreed. . Maher going on a non-cordial attack wouldn't have been proper discourse.

Idk, the only part that really bothered me was in Overtime when Milo made some snarky comment about transgender folk and Bill more or less agreed with him. I could've sworn Maher was smarter and more progressive than that unless I missed something.

What exactly else has Milo said which is so controversial? I'm out of the loop, and don't follow him much.

There's probably plenty of examples throughout this thread, but literally off the top of my head:

- His directed harassment on of individuals on twitter over gamergate and other people to the point he was banned from twitter

- His numerous "political correctness" defenses of specifically the "alt-right", a political movement that self identifies as white nationalist, which in practice means white supremacist, and even Trump has lightly denounced.

- His go to argument of white supremacist "statistics" lies about minority crime or jewish run banks based to justify white people being afraid and hateful of minorities as a default.

- His stated campaign to get his followers to out undocumented students at Berkley.

The guy is undoubtedly scary for minorites and trans people. Far more so than the typical conservative. If we're making the calculation to argue the point down instead of suppressing it, it absolutely needs to be treated as something far greater than just another conservative vs liberal argument, and called out for what it is.
 

Infinite

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Milo has been gaining publicity by talking about how the response to his "ideas" has been violence. What happened at Berkeley shocked people and increased his following.

And you suggest that the proper response to him from a panel of TV liberals is... assault?

Good strategy you've got there.
I hope you realize that I don't give a fuck about any of that. If I catch milo in the streets I'm slapping the shit out of him and I wouldn't chastise anyone for doing the same.
 
I hope you realize that I don't give a fuck about any of that. If I catch milo in the streets I'm slapping the shit out of him and I wouldn't chastise anyone for doing the same.

"Oh do you like how I ''''''misgendered'''''' that trans person? I did it on purpose because FUCK I'm edgy."

He deserves a swift kick in the ass if for no other reason than statements like this. What a fucking tool.
 
He's not.

Wait a fucking second Milo doesn't even have US citizenship? I figured he had gotten one at some point.

Pretty bull shit he gets his rocks off doing nothing but instigating fights involving our citizens and our government and he isn't even a citizen himself.
 

Sanjuro

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I'll say this about Milo. There is something about him I like. At the same time, I hate everything he is saying and would punch him in the face. Maybe that is a part of the puzzle.

Watching the episode right now. Maher jerked him off.
 
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thepotatoman

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The absolute worst part is that this dude is British and he's here in America stirring the pot and lighting gas fires.

Fucking our shit up and he ain't even a citizen.

Pardon me if he is a US citizen. Overtime made it seem like he wasn't

Most of what is practically our state-media now is owned by an australian.
 

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I hope you realize that I don't give a fuck about any of that. If I catch milo in the streets I'm slapping the shit out of him and I wouldn't chastise anyone for doing the same.

exactly. if people are rallied to his cause because he provokes violence, they weren't worth the effort to begin with and they'll face a reckoning too.
 
I'll say this about Milo. There is something about him I like. At the same time, I hate everything he is saying and would punch him in the face. Maybe that is a part of the puzzle.

Watching the episode right now. Maher jerked him off.

It's because if this was The Sims he would have all of his points put into Charisma.
 
I'll say this about Milo. There is something about him I like. At the same time, I hate everything he is saying and would punch him in the face. Maybe that is a part of the puzzle.

that's why it's dangerous to give these kinds of people any sort of platform

not that Maher cares about any of that, because he probably agrees with Milo on more than he disagrees...
 
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thepotatoman

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I hope you realize that I don't give a fuck about any of that. If I catch milo in the streets I'm slapping the shit out of him and I wouldn't chastise anyone for doing the same.

Strategically it seems like a poor idea, given how his whole career is practically made out of presenting himself as the victim.

But realistically, I could not blame anyone for doing that.
 

Maxim726X

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Who is the liberal Superman then?

No one has the ideological purity to shoulder such responsibility, according to the 'progressives' I'm reading here.

I would actually like to hear a serious response to this. Because apparently if someone doesn't hold every single value you do, they're a 'fake progressive edgelord'.

not that Maher cares about any of that, because he probably agrees with Milo on more than he disagrees...

Wow. This veers so far into the deep end that you actually end up back in shallow water. Completely ridiculous.
 

eot

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The violence Milo inspired at Berkely was a community defending itself from him, and it worked.

Some of the specific things done may not have been good, but stopping Milo from speaking was extremely good. There is such a thing as a mixed bag.

Being happy with the outcome is one thing, justifying the methods is another.

You can't justify political violence, because one person's political beliefs is not inherently better than another one's. Who decides whose beliefs are the ones worth assaulting people over? You can't have a functioning society like that and I find people justifying the violence as upsetting as the violence itself. Anyway, the guy's gone now.
 

TheXbox

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Bill is such a fucking jobber. Milo walked all over on him on his own god damn show and by the end Bill is almost trying to impress the guy. "Those damn stupid liberals, fuck them, right, Milo? I can't believe they didn't want you on my show. Haha!"

Wait to go and prove everyone's fucking point. Milo is an outstanding orator and Bill is a pushover. Results as expected.
 

Got

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Being happy with the outcome is one thing, justifying the methods is another.

You can't justify political violence, because one person's political beliefs is not inherently better than another one's. Who decides whose beliefs are the ones worth assaulting people over? You can't have a functioning society like that and I find people justifying the violence as upsetting as the violence itself. Anyway, the guy's gone now.

it's almost as if society isn't functioning and we're on the verge of a violent pushback against a fascist regime. and maybe the guy who supports that fascist regime and would engage in genocide or at least actively cheer it on should be punched down into the dirt before it gets to that. maybe.
 

Lafiel

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Being happy with the outcome is one thing, justifying the methods is another.

You can't justify political violence, because one person's political beliefs is not inherently better than another one's. Who decides whose beliefs are the ones worth assaulting people over? You can't have a functioning society like that and I find people justifying the violence as upsetting as the violence itself. Anyway, the guy's gone now.

While I think there's room for debate on tactics and the ethics of such tactics when resisting against the far-right.

I think this thing bolded is intellectually dishonest, do you really think a political belief that advocates the genocide and oppression of minorities is something that's not inherently worse than others?
 

Carcetti

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You can't justify political violence, because one person's political beliefs is not inherently better than another one's.

A person is able to make value judgements over political beliefs. Let's have an example.

The options are:
a) All jews must be killed.
b) All jews should not be killed.

Are you saying these positions are inherently equal. On which scale?
 

Infinite

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Being happy with the outcome is one thing, justifying the methods is another.

You can't justify political violence, because one person's political beliefs is not inherently better than another one's. Who decides whose beliefs are the ones worth assaulting people over? You can't have a functioning society like that and I find people justifying the violence as upsetting as the violence itself. Anyway, the guy's gone now.
I would absolutely whip someone' ass who's political belief is the genocide and subjugation of non-whites
 
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