TiredofWinning
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Milo Yiannopoulos is Going on Real Time with Bill Maher
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I had a minor chuckle
Okay, just a quick rundown off the top of my head:
- Disagree about religion, and its potential power in society
- Disagree about climate change (Milo doesn't think it's a thing)
- Disagree about gay rights
- Disagree about fiscal policy
- Disagree about a woman's right to choose
- Disagree about white privilege
- Disagree about institutional racism
- Disagree about healthcare
- Disagree about financial regulation.
Agree about:
- Political correctness.
Yes, they're basically the same fucking person. Are you pulling a Milo right now? Because any rational person could easily see that these two are almost diametrically opposed on almost every wedge issue.
I watch Maher every week, so I know you're right. But the point is almost none of Maher's views were brought to bear against Milo. He spent almost the entire episode fluffing him. So it doesn't matter what he really believes.
fastford58
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It's interesting watching the left try to figure out how to deal with a person like Milo.
Opticability
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Ah ok.
I say it all the time; look to black people.
Because we've been dealing with contradictory Uncle Toms like Milo almost since slavery.
I don't disagree. I'm not going to rake him over the coals though as by this point it's expected.
I'm just getting into the overtime right now and I'm pissed Wilmore's production team couldn't have given us a better program.
I dont understand how anyone can just think he is a troll.
Hate speech is not trolling.
fastford58
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We could look to black people for a lot of things, but won't. So round and round they go.
excelsiorlef
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I said it a couple times already but it was really telling that it was only the two black men who took Milo to task while the two white men just chuckled and remained quiet.
RustyNails
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Bill Maher's shameful mainstreaming of Yiannopoulos' hate
Thank fuck for Larry Wilmore. Seriously. There was someone competent to push back against Milo's garbage.
excelsiorlef
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Wilmore is a hero.... Literally would be of better public good hosting this show than Maher
Chie Satonaka
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As usual, black folks do the work that "allies" aren't willing to.
Haven't been reading up on the general concensus of this.
While I'm not necessarily opposed to him being on, Bill fucking wasted any opportunity to make any sort of point. He let him get off, pretty clean too. It'd be one thing is he hit him with some shit that mattered, but he didn't in the slightest. Any absolutes he could have used agaisnt him for being a piece of shit he said under his breath. The worst part was, fucking nothing happened in that interview. Just a lot of bullshit that had no debate waiting for it and Milo getting screen time.
So yeah, I've never been a big Bill fan anyway, but in a circumstance where he could have made me really start paying attention to him, he certainly did not make me want to.
While I'm not necessarily opposed to him being on, Bill fucking wasted any opportunity to make any sort of point. He let him get off, pretty clean too. It'd be one thing is he hit him with some shit that mattered, but he didn't in the slightest. Any absolutes he could have used agaisnt him for being a piece of shit he said under his breath. The worst part was, fucking nothing happened in that interview. Just a lot of bullshit that had no debate waiting for it and Milo getting screen time.
So yeah, I've never been a big Bill fan anyway, but in a circumstance where he could have made me really start paying attention to him, he certainly did not make me want to.
nah, you just have a case of the alternative facts. take some penicillin to clear it up.
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thepotatoman
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Ok, fine. I guess genocide's a little misrepresentatives.
All he really wants is a mild ethnic cleansing, while maybe leaving the "good ones" behind.
RustyNails
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LOL what the fuck did you watch.
Bill Maher even praised Milo by saying that he reminded him of young Christopher Hitchens.
Mighty Chin
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I just fast forwarded through Milo's Segment.
I did my part.
I did my part.
excelsiorlef
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Read into this what you might but I think the title they chose on youtube for Overtime from this week is pretty telling
Look who is the protagonist in that title, how they drop his last name and all Caps his first name like some pop star
Look who is the protagonist in that title, how they drop his last name and all Caps his first name like some pop star
How he talks and the delivery of the word is what he was referring to, I thought that was obvious... He said at the end of that comparison that you have to stop saying shit like that.
He didn't say, "Wow, you're the next Christopher Hitchens, go you!" He was saying Milo could be like him if he'd stop being a fucking asshole.
Watching the episode now and just finished the interview. Milo is just like Tomi and other young conservatives when they argue and its so annoying. They seem to come in ready for a "but all libs are evil/stupid/crazy/sensitive" quip. They seem to try to be the right wing comic trope where the liberal is screaming and mad while they are calm and smug. The problem is they don't try to get it through actual debate but by saying something outlandish and going "U mad libs?"
These conservatives and really almost all American conservatives make think that there is no argument to be an American conservative that is based in rational discourse. Its always ad hominems and that the left is always in every scenario the guy in the comic who is screaming. It usually ends with "u mad libs?" or "get over it".
Bill did this like he did Tomi, gave them a lot of leeway for the sake of conversation but casually sonning them throughout the whole conversation. You can tell with these young conservatives he has been using 2% of his power and they still come off foolish.
These conservatives and really almost all American conservatives make think that there is no argument to be an American conservative that is based in rational discourse. Its always ad hominems and that the left is always in every scenario the guy in the comic who is screaming. It usually ends with "u mad libs?" or "get over it".
Bill did this like he did Tomi, gave them a lot of leeway for the sake of conversation but casually sonning them throughout the whole conversation. You can tell with these young conservatives he has been using 2% of his power and they still come off foolish.
Evening Musuko
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But the normalization of trolling on the internet has allowed for hate speech to become more accepted as just a joke. Who needs Stormfront when you have 15 year old kids spreading the good word of "white power" and "hitler did nothing wrong" on youtube and twitter? Now, look, do all of those kids truly believe that, or are they just being edgy for the lulz?
Trick question. It doesn't matter.
What matters is that the message is being spread around and even if it's dismissed as "lulz edgy" by a majority of people, there's going to be a couple of young people who are like "Yeah, that's right".
So true.
"Donald Trump could be like Christopher Hitchens if he weren't Donald Trump."
I rabidly dislike Milo but I applaud Bill Maher for having him on.
We don't make these idiots go away by giving them the oxygen and notoriety they crave by blacklisting them.
Maher is totally right, us Liberals need to harden the fuck up and stop getting so fucking triggered by everything. You don't win friends with salad.
I thought Maher disarmed Milo brilliantly and exposed him for what he is... a silly troll. A reasonably articulate silly troll, but a silly troll nonetheless. He has supporters on the Alt-Right because they aren't used to hearing their ideology spouted by someone with a modicum of charima and the ability to string a sentence together. That's their problem, but the left allowing themselves to take what he says seriously is what gives his words a degree of agency they don't deserve and expands his platform.
The correct response to Milo is...
... and nothing more.
We don't make these idiots go away by giving them the oxygen and notoriety they crave by blacklisting them.
Maher is totally right, us Liberals need to harden the fuck up and stop getting so fucking triggered by everything. You don't win friends with salad.
I thought Maher disarmed Milo brilliantly and exposed him for what he is... a silly troll. A reasonably articulate silly troll, but a silly troll nonetheless. He has supporters on the Alt-Right because they aren't used to hearing their ideology spouted by someone with a modicum of charima and the ability to string a sentence together. That's their problem, but the left allowing themselves to take what he says seriously is what gives his words a degree of agency they don't deserve and expands his platform.
The correct response to Milo is...
... and nothing more.
GotchaForce
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And a black music group blew the roof off the Grammys, called out Trump specifically, had people of all races come up on stage and then chant "resist!" over and over.
Mighty Chin
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As I said I fast forwarded the Milo part. That was a great episode. I laugh at liberals dissing Maher because he has a different thought about Islam.
Don't be childish.
We can't laugh at the alt-right for hiding in their comfortable media echo-chambers of ignorance if we are just going to do the same thing and huff and puff at Bill Maher for inviting on someone who spouts rubbish we don't want to hear.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Milo will be exposed for the shameless, self-promoting actor he is in due course. Stuff like Berkeley just fuels his engine.
Really? Because that normalizes Milo, and encourages more people to be like him in public because there are no real consequences to the hateful shit they spew.The correct response to Milo is...
... and nothing more.
I was thinking the exact same thing about you, man what a coincidence.
it's okay he just wants to make friends with the funny little nazi's, gosh darn oh you
Just watched this and it makes me hate Maher more than I already did.
It's not a discussion. Maher mentions something, Milo spews hate about it and Maher goes 'let's move on'. They're not discussing things, it's literally Milo being able to say he hates everything. Disgusting.
Also 'Mean words doesn't hurt anyone'. Tell that to any victim of a bully. Fuuuuuck that.
It's not a discussion. Maher mentions something, Milo spews hate about it and Maher goes 'let's move on'. They're not discussing things, it's literally Milo being able to say he hates everything. Disgusting.
Also 'Mean words doesn't hurt anyone'. Tell that to any victim of a bully. Fuuuuuck that.
I rabidly dislike Milo but I applaud Bill Maher for having him on.
We don't make these idiots go away by giving them the oxygen and notoriety they crave by blacklisting them.
Maher is totally right, us Liberals need to harden the fuck up and stop getting so fucking triggered by everything. You don't win friends with salad.
I thought Maher disarmed Milo brilliantly and exposed him for what he is... a silly troll. A reasonably articulate silly troll, but a silly troll nonetheless. He has supporters on the Alt-Right because they aren't used to hearing their ideology spouted by someone with a modicum of charima and the ability to string a sentence together. That's their problem, but the left allowing themselves to take what he says seriously is what gives his words a degree of agency they don't deserve and expands his platform.
The correct response to Milo is...
... and nothing more.
that seems to be a pretty lazy and self serving response
lazy "liberals" are the worst. tone policing is all they're good at.
classy, I guess I didn't win you as a friend with my salad.
As opposed to calling me a "friend of nazis"" because I had the temerity to suggest that you should publicly expose idiots like Milo for the frauds they are rather than cover your eyes and pretend they aren't there?
You're seemingly providing a counterpoint to arguments I didn't make. it's really quite baffling.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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I rabidly dislike Milo but I applaud Bill Maher for having him on.
We don't make these idiots go away by giving them the oxygen and notoriety they crave by blacklisting them.
Maher is totally right, us Liberals need to harden the fuck up and stop getting so fucking triggered by everything. You don't win friends with salad.
I thought Maher disarmed Milo brilliantly and exposed him for what he is... a silly troll. A reasonably articulate silly troll, but a silly troll nonetheless. He has supporters on the Alt-Right because they aren't used to hearing their ideology spouted by someone with a modicum of charima and the ability to string a sentence together. That's their problem, but the left allowing themselves to take what he says seriously is what gives his words a degree of agency they don't deserve and expands his platform.
The correct response to Milo is...
... and nothing more.
yeah Maher really rekt Milo by agreeing that trans discrimination is reasonable and shrugging when presented with obvious lies
This is what putting your brain up in the closet looks like
A Link to the Past
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Well I guess I would ask this: at what point does "publicly exposing idiots like Milo" stop being okay? How many people need to be doxed whenever he's "publicly exposed" before it stops being okay that it's happening?
excelsiorlef
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I mean this thread is about Milo and Maher normalizing him and calling some of his tanti-trans bigotry reasonable sooo maybe there's more than just Islam to "diss" Maher for.
BrutishMrFish
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Maher took Milo seriously enough to have him on the show, let Milo's blatant dishonesty slide on multiple occasions, agreed with some of Milo's bigotry, and threw Milo balls so soft he practically used his own fucking testicles.
How did that not give Milo exactly what you described?
I disagree. Like i said, the guy is a self-promoting clown. He will eventually tie his own noose, that will be the consequence.
Kellyanne Conway is a walking joke now. Giving her airtime didn't "normalise" her, it just exposed her for the charlatan with shallow playbook that she is.
Liberals need to stop cowering in the corner and safe spaces and (non-violently) but aggressively call conservatives and the alt-right out for what they are. Easily frightened, manipulated, anachronistic and seemingly wilfully ignorant stooges who don't realise how hard they are getting played by the powerbrokers and puppetmasters of the party they support.
It's a contest of ideas, let them put their spokespeople forward, and we put ours forward. I think our ideas are better, don't you?
In case I haven't made myself clear enough (I have been misrepresented enough already) I'll defer to Bruno Gianelli who said it way better 15+ years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCSMyFWTjRc
how many Nazi friends have you made so far? just curious. what do you feed them to get them to like you, instead of the salad? pizza?
excelsiorlef
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Safe spaces are places for minorities to meet and focus on their unique issues without having to give time and voice to folks like Milo or remain on 101 surface level to "educate" the majority.... they are beneficial and conducive to a successful civil rights fight, please stop talking about safe spaces like you have literally any clue what they are for.
he's obviously heard his latest buzzword and needs to show he can use it too
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