SmokyDave said:Jeez, what more do you want from these people, integrity and basic common sense?
This is Amurrica. We dont take kindly to big words like that.
SmokyDave said:Jeez, what more do you want from these people, integrity and basic common sense?
PsychoRaven said:Not a fan of censorship. I firmly believe that everyone on that board should have actually read the damn books before they voted. If you haven't read it then you have no business deciding if it's appropriate or not.
lawblob said:I wonder if on the other end of the spectrum, some overly-liberal school districts in Berkeley are having high school students read Naked Lunch.
UltimaPooh said:Missouri people quit embarrassing me!
I know. Doesn't mean it won't have the effect I mentioned.Sharp said:That's not why they banned it, they hadn't even read it.
I know!UltimaPooh said:Missouri people quit embarrassing me!
besada said:I read Flannery O'Connor's Wise Blood for the first time by picking it off a list of acceptable books to write reports on in high school. Compared to O'Connor, Vonnegut's work is shiny, happy, and puritan.
What I find strangest about these cases is that none of the people making the decisions seem to know anything about the books that are being taught. There's nothing in Slaughterhouse-Five that approaches some of the casual horrors you'll find in the Southern Gothic writers, which used to be heavily taught down here.
If they had any idea what they were actually allowing, they'd beg kids to read Slaughterhouse-Five.
SciencePilot said:Wait... what exactly is wrong with Slaughterhouse Five? I read that in high school and it was totally fine. I... I am outraged, but I don't have anything to else to say. They are terrible people, those who ban books.
Dyno said:There are some sexy scenes in the book. Nothing crazy or drawn out. Also there is the firebombing of Dresden which set the whole city ablaze. That particular aspect of WWII doesn't really paint the Allies in the best possible light.
Revisionist history at work, maybe. Like what happened in 1984.
DMczaf said:Looking up Twenty Boy Summer...
I had to stop there.
SciencePilot said:Wait... what exactly is wrong with Slaughterhouse Five? I read that in high school and it was totally fine. I... I am outraged, but I don't have anything to else to say. They are terrible people, those who ban books.
lawblob said:I think that's what is most infuriating, the laziness of a governing body like this deciding wholesale what is acceptable and not, without any context of what they are doing, because none of them could even be bothered to read through a short book like Slaughterhouse to divine any deeper meaning than some bullet point summary probably produced by some evangelical church and posted on the internet, if I had to guess...
The Color Purple had lesbian sex.dave is ok said:There is sex in The Scarlet Letter, and violence in In Cold Blood and The Stranger. Better ban those too
No reason to go that far, the Good Old Bible is a stupendous compedium of savagery, incest, enslavery, genocide and rape.dave is ok said:There is sex in The Scarlet Letter, and violence in In Cold Blood and The Stranger. Better ban those too
Devolution said:Fuck that one was actually interesting. Can someone just get around to banning the melodramatic piece of shit that is Ethan Frome. That made me want to put novels down for a long time.
SmokyDave said:Jeez, what more do you want from these people, integrity and basic common sense?
besada said:And I promise that I could stroll through their library and pick out a dozen books they'd find more offensive if they read them. The Western Canon is full of books with really troubling themes and scenes (as it should be) and yet Vonnegut, in part because he's so readable and popular with young people, gets an enormous share of these attacks on literature.
As Chichikov upthread pointed out, if you want really heinous scenes of murder, rape, and incest, you can always rely on the Bible. Just once I'd like to see a school district ban it.
besada said:And Ethan Frome has young people engaging in a suicide pact, which seems considerably more harmful for teenagers than reading about people fucking.
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:That's not even the raciest Kurt Vonnegut book, not by a long shot; let's find out if Slapstick is still in there and tell them about the neanderthal incest (or something like that, been a long time since I read it).
Devolution said:I forgot about that but you're right. Ugh. Just another reason to get rid of that piece of shit. Never have I felt so offended by a novel, I swear. Get it in school, considered a classic, read it and I'm just like "what the fuck is this?"
where they use their condoms to have sex
Folks in Missourah can only be expected to speak at a certain level.Aselith said:I find this to be an incredibly charming choice of words. The only way to make it better would be to add a "the" before sex.
Kuro Madoushi said:Romeo and Juliet has underaged premarital unprotected sex though! D:
How about you use the Missouri flag?lawblob said:
So generalize all of Missouri instead? This little hick town doesn't represent all of Missouri, it represents itself.DeathNote said:How about you use the Missouri flag?
Davidion said:I did think Cat's Cradle was the better book but come on now.