Yep, they took over a few months back but they did retain Colletti's services (although I have no clue why).
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Yep, they took over a few months back but they did retain Colletti's services (although I have no clue why).
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The Astros have made a 10-player trade with the Toronto Blue Jays this evening, General Manager Jeff Luhnow has announced.
Houston will ultimately receive seven players from Toronto in the deal, including two Major League players, RHP Francisco Cordero and OF Ben Francisco, four minor league players, RHP Joe Musgrove, RHP Asher Wojciechowski, LHP David Rollins and C Carlos Perez, and a player to be named later. Two of the players the Astros received are former first-round draft picks. In exchange for the seven players, the Astros have sent RHP Brandon Lyon, LHP J.A. Happ and RHP David Carpenter to the Blue Jays.
This is the least interesting 10 player trade in the history of baseball.
Houston will ultimately receive seven players from Toronto in the deal, including two Major League players, RHP Francisco Cordero and OF Ben Francisco, four minor league players, RHP Joe Musgrove, RHP Asher Wojciechowski, LHP David Rollins and C Carlos Perez, and a player to be named later. Two of the players the Astros received are former first-round draft picks. In exchange for the seven players, the Astros have sent RHP Brandon Lyon, LHP J.A. Happ and RHP David Carpenter to the Blue Jays.
This is the least interesting 10 player trade in the history of baseball.
The Elite
BOSS
Cordero is gone. This is the best trade in the history of baseball.
I'm happy with Lyon and Happ looking at their stats. Happ just seems like a bit of a desperation move but I'll take it. David Carpenter doesn't seem that great. I haven't followed these guys that much so I don't know for sure.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
jonmorosi
BREAKING: Source tells http://FOXSports.com #Rockies close to sending Jeremy Guthrie to #Royals for Jonathan Sanchez.
BREAKING: Source tells http://FOXSports.com #Rockies close to sending Jeremy Guthrie to #Royals for Jonathan Sanchez.
The Elite
BOSS
Happ is filling a gap. If he regains his form that will be a bonus.
Mr. Enigma
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Blue Jays get:
-- RHP David Carpenter
-- LHP J.A. Happ
-- RHP Brandon Lyon
Astros get:
-- RHP Francisco Cordero
-- OF Ben Francisco
-- RHP Joe Musgrove (minors)
-- C Carlos Perez (minors)
-- LHP David Rollins (minors)
-- RHP Asher Wojciechowski (minors)
-- Player To Be Named Later
-- RHP David Carpenter
-- LHP J.A. Happ
-- RHP Brandon Lyon
Astros get:
-- RHP Francisco Cordero
-- OF Ben Francisco
-- RHP Joe Musgrove (minors)
-- C Carlos Perez (minors)
-- LHP David Rollins (minors)
-- RHP Asher Wojciechowski (minors)
-- Player To Be Named Later
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Jonathan Sanchez in Colorado. What could go wrong?
Yeah, it's just the four minor leaguers part of it because Coco/Francisco were replaceable. I thought guys like Perez & Wojciechowski had more value than being mere toss-ins.
The Elite
BOSS
Yup. He better not waste this opportunity.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Blame it on the Mile High air!
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
In fairness to Colorado that move saves them $1.1 million so its actually a really good move.
They should probably just tell Jonathan Sanchez to stay in KC though.
They should probably just tell Jonathan Sanchez to stay in KC though.
matthewwhatever
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Disappointed they had to give up Wojciechowski, since he was supposed to be pretty good, but the fact they managed to get a living, breathing, possibly semi-decent player for Cordero is great news.
non waiver 7.31
It's the same day every year dude.
/shrug like i fucking pay attention
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Alot of ppl wants it changed to August 31 since the second wildcard gives more teams a chance to make the playoffs. I think its a good idea.
matthewwhatever
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Technically it's already August 31st -- July 31st is just the deadline for trading players without passing them through waivers first. I remember reading once, very long ago, that smarter GMs would put most of their rosters through waivers earlier in the season just to make August trades possible. Not sure if that actually happens, though.
Remember that one trade deadline where they the Pirates got rid of both Jason Bay and Xavier Nady?
We got rid of our entire team those 2 seasons... pretty much worked out for the best too!
I'd say the astros got the better deal. The blue jays will probably get something like 2 wins a year from those three players. Which will probably be over 3 yrs of control or something. I dont know anything about those minor league players but i would have to think they would provide more value over 6 six years of control than that, assuming a couple make the majors.
If the blue jays got one decent player i would say quality > quantity but this is more like more quantity > less quantity.
If the blue jays got one decent player i would say quality > quantity but this is more like more quantity > less quantity.
Fredi will pull a bobby and sit chipper, mccann, heyward, prado, and freeman on one of those days.
Bring it on! John Lannan should be interesting to see again.
Me?
The Frankman
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Is it life-longing when you've lifelong'd for 3 years? He always comes here during the summer and posts.
sf2fanatic
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I think they harldy care about sports. Because for awhile I would hear rumors on the radio about the football team moving to L.A. too.
And I call him a lifelong every year. Well, only the last two since he is vapor when the Pirates are bad!
This would actually be an interesting question: what major city cares the least about sports?
It would be difficult to measure. Perhaps per capita attendance among the 5 major sports, also noting that not having a team needs to be accounted for in some manner. Anyone have any first guesses?
Miami
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The correct answer is Miami. Florida in general is awful at supporting the 4 major league sports - Although the Magic have been top 10 in attendance for a few years now. That'll change starting this year though.
vas_a_morir
Banned
I think this is the correct answer by a long shot. Not a lot of lifelong locals there, compared to other places.
What city do you think would be second? That's the question.
I'm thinking of east-US cities with multiple fanchises in major sport. Which of these cities do you think would be the least passionate about sports?
1. Boston
2. NYC
3. Philly
4. DC
5. Charlotte
6. Atlanta
7. Pittsburgh
8. Cleveland
9. Cincinnati
10. Chicago
11. New Orleans
12. Tampa
13. Nashville
I'd say Tampa then Nashville, but that's more because most of their franchises are just a few decades old.
I've come and gone since I joined in 2007, and we've been shit until a short lived glimmer of hope in the 2011 season lol...
And most Pirates fans tend to disappear (On forums, and IRL) after the All-Star break when it becomes clear we're going to sale off the team and continue our tradition of losing. It's a bit hard to stay 100% dedicated and enthusiastic on a forum when your team has maintained a record under .500 since you were 4.
I typically stop watching baseball religiously once it becomes clear that we're going to suck again, and focus my attention on our farm system in a blind faith for the future of the franchise...
HarryDemeanor
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I wish they let him go when they took over.
Dmncnby2k9
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Tampa has a great team and attendance has remained at terrible levels. Miami has a new stadium its only 75% filled, with 70% chillin with the strippers in the nightclub.
I'd be surprised if Escobar got traded now. His name was thrown around to attract some pitching, but they've made their deal.
Here's hoping Happ reaches previous potential hopes. Getting out of that park in Houston can only help his pitching numbers. But then again pitching in the AL east isn't good for numbers either.
Here's hoping Happ reaches previous potential hopes. Getting out of that park in Houston can only help his pitching numbers. But then again pitching in the AL east isn't good for numbers either.
Joking?
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Lets go Santana. Need to seebyou eeturn to your early season form.
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