DUFFMCWALIN
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Its a shitty feeling getting swept by a team thats projected to be last in their division.
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MLB Regular Season 2013 |OT| - Natinals Already Won
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Its a shitty feeling getting swept by a team thats projected to be last in their division.
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Bullpen (active roster, i.e. including fucking Ramon Ortiz over Sergio Santos) is 2nd in MLB by fWAR and has a 2.81 ERA/2.73 FIP/3.88 xFIP. The bullpen is fine and managed by someone who is actually competent at managing a pen. The questions are more of the health variety.
We are one month in. Do you have proof that he is competent at that duty? I just see the same lousy manager you had several seasons ago when Cito was bored.
Last? Nah. Rough start in the season but not at all last.
Consensus was back then that he was competent at managing the bullpen. Not sure why that would have changed.
Gibby's main problem is that he sometimes relies on micro-splits too much. But that's pretty much the same as any non-Maddon manager.
DUFFMCWALIN
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Maybe I misread somewhere preseason then.
We need to get our fucking pitching in order. We live or die by it more so than a lot of teams.
Maybe he will, we shall see. I'm not shitting on the Jays. Bullpen last year was bad and still largely comprised of the old crew this season.
Sir Alemeth
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Geez....oh well, we sucked at the beginning of last year too....
darkside31337
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ConradCervantes
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How sweep it is.
edgar was a DH, but vaughn might as well have been. Just becuase someone plays the field, doesnt mean they should be. infact vaughn probably hurt the sox more on the field than helped.
ANd MVP should be the best player in the league, not how good your team does, especially when so many other factors play into that. Arod missed out on a few MVPs becuase of this.
Wow. Oh, wow. Where do I even begin...
Beginning of the year, sure. Santos tried to pitch through injury and then Cordero was named closer over the far better option of Janssen (sidenote: that lasted till like the all-star break, wtf). Second half of the year added Loup, Delabar and Cecil (finally) to the BP. Cecil was the only one that really faltered much, and again it was due to him being exposed to righties when he should be a LOOGY.
Delabar and Rogers still scare me from time to time, but for the worst members of the pen they're certainly not awful.
I can break it down, but it's rather silly.
Mr. Enigma
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Jeter re-fractured his ankle. Out until after All-Star break.
HarryDemeanor
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At least the Giants are above .500.
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Dominican Power
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Any one else watch MLB Now? Brian Kenny is the man.
Mr. Enigma
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Yes, it's my new favorite show. The way Brian Kenny repeatedly makes Harold Reynolds look like a dumbass is fantastic.
Cashman, what's it going to take to get Andrus.
Alex Anderson
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Mr. Enigma
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Maybe Michael Pineda could sell some beer at Arlington?
Not really. He shares a fantasy opinion about how the award is viewed and voted on.
Dominican Power
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#RobotUmps
how its voted on isnt how it should be voted on. you think cabrera should have been the MVP over trout last year? Cabrera should have finished 3rd in my ranking.
montero had a higher war in the 66PA with the yankees then the ~600 PA with the m's. lol
Dominican Power
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The pinstripes amplifies a player's aura.
No, but I knew he would be. You're also trying to apply advanced statistics (not used at least up to 2012) in the year 1995.
HGH and steroids.
Pedroia was beastly that year, the fact that Youk got third place, shows how big of a contributor pedroia was statistically for that team. youk got most of his rbi from pedroia's runs
That's MVP worthy.
Bill James, has worked to popularize sabermetrics since the mid-1980.
...and how has that applied to MVP voting since?
i would have given it to mauer or sizemore. But whats done is done.
DUFFMCWALIN
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I feel if we were in the same area we would get drunk too often together yelling about how our teams suck ass.
it hasnt..but that doesnt make it right. At that time, there were too many old "rbi, runs, batting average, are the greatest things ever" guys that wouldnt change their tune.
There still is.
i hate the minute in between posting..real PITA.
and i understand there still is. but again, its not right. there are 100 diffreent ways that baseball can be looked at statistically to not worry about rbi, runs, batting average, etc.
either way, vaughn shouldnt have won in 95.
My man.
I'd given it to Monreau that year over Mauer. I'm not arguing with ya, I'm just saying he deserved it as much as a few others.
Should have given it to A-Rod!
no, but its nothing short of a travesty that he didnt win it in 96.
Basically there is no set in stone meaning of "MVP" in MLB. However it is an individual award not a team award. Where a team finishes should not impact who wins the award in my opinion. Last season many Cabrera supporters played the "he is on a post season team" card as a point against Trout. Made no sense as the Angels finished with a better record than the Tigers and Trout should not be punished for playing in a tougher division.
To me the MVP is the best player in each league regardless of where his team is in the standings. That player did everything they could to help their team achieve success and should not be denied the award because his teammates were not as successful as another team.
Nomah got robbed.
A manager with brain cells.
as far as i can tell, he never got robbed.
Mauer's OBP that year was .413 (only the 4th highest in his career). His OPS was 9 points less than Morneau's. Morneau had a shit load of RBI because Mauer was always on base in front of him. Honestly, Mauer or Santana should've won MVP in 2006 instead of Morneau.
Though looking at BB Ref again broke my heart because I had to look at Morneau's pre-injury 2010 stat line again. Through 81 games: .345/.437/.618. 18 HR, 25 2B.
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