[mobilegamer.biz] Laid off King staff set to be replaced by the AI tools they helped build, say sources
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Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
Plenty of trade jobs out there and not enough folks to fill the slots. Construction, electricians, HVAC, etc. when we shifted from vocational learning to more university education, the perception change for blue collar workers hit hard.
Just going to need to work outside jobs more. There are plenty of jobs to fill.
Just going to need to work outside jobs more. There are plenty of jobs to fill.
Topher
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You seen the advancement in robotics these days? AI and robotics are on a collision course. Blue collar ain't safe
StreetsofBeige
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Problem with that view is that humans are inherently lazy.
No different than the giant shift from getting off your ass to change a disc to digital downloads even though there's way more benefits to a physical game. Saving 10 seconds to launch a digital game overrides all the benefits of a physical purchase.
So getting people amped up on a highly paid a desk job to getting dirty, learning how to use tools and driving a van around town is going to be an impossible task. Not only do many people not want to give up the hoity toity prestige of a good desk job, but they also want an easy job they can sit in an air conditioned office all day while someone does a Starbucks run for everyone in the afternoon. Adding to what I said above about convenience, some desk jobbers can WFH too. And the fight some people put up so they dont have to get up in the morning and drive to the office is big too. You cant do that with a blue collar job.
Also, a blue collar job isnt the kind of job people go ape shit on social media complaining, badmouthing bosses, or fighting customers while they post something on Twitter from their office chair. So the overzealous techie on social media wont be able to do that working a construction site or installing a new HVAC system for hours.
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Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
I have and the nuanced tasks most blue collar jobs, will be safe. Most blue collar work involves a lot of on the fly complex problem solving, dealing with customers face to face.
AI will surely take some jobs, but it will also make productivity easier in areas that will open other opportunities to learn AI and the machinery to better help take the load off the worker.
At this point it will be an extension of the worker that could help with issues and problem solving without having manuals and a trouble shooting tree, schematics, etc.
Also, the later half of my career we used drones in the Horn of Africa and Afghanistan in beta and they haven't as of almost a decade later been able to supplant any Marines or had any MOS's closed because of it.
Lots of jobs out there for everyone, even agriculture.
My own opinion, of course. I can also see your side.
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FIREKNIGHT2029
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All the morons that championed MS buying ABK as good for the devs/industry have gone into hiding.
StreetsofBeige
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For blue collar AI kinds of roles, it can heavily affect jobs if the company goes gonzo like Amazon automating fulfilment facilities as much as possible with all kinds of robots and stuff doing things. BUT, even those distribution centres have tons of workers there too. So even Amazon needs a lot of human power.
I think the big drive for AI replacing humans comes from a combo of the top companies spending and hyped up business reports where some company plugs their new tech will transform the industry.
I remember before covid reading articles how AI driven 18-wheelers were supposed to make all the truck drivers obsolete. They will self-drive and park in shipping docks all by itself, load up and drive to the delivery spot.
Still waiting.
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ChorizoPicozo
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@grok make a plan to start an anti A.I. Movement
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
Better watch that, it may put all pro-AI folks in concentration camps.
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Durin
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I mean if AI could take over a game dev job, it's going to be on the mobile side first. So many of those games are painfully simple, release tons of iterative micro-transaction "content", and are so metric driven that of course AI can do it.
People can say AI produces slop, but King's games are already slop.
People can say AI produces slop, but King's games are already slop.
calico
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The more immediate threat to the people with skilled manual jobs is not the AI/robots, it's all the people replaced by AI who will now be competing for those jobs. Most of them are mentally capable of doing those jobs, even if they do initially hyperventilate at the thought of getting their hands dirty.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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They should do this to 343i Halo Studios. Not like AI could do a worst job, anyways.
Felessan
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Lots of them can't even hammer a nail, what are talking about?
Kenneth Haight
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The Pleasure
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But can AI replicate the high quality design that we expect from king?
calico
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A skill which takes all of 30 seconds to learn if they ever had a need to learn it.
PlayStaytion
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The world will become pretty much like Fallout but without the nukes stuff. Damn!!! Todd saw this coming.
Breakfast at Noon
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I've never understood peoples reactions to things like this.
They finished the project and now they are fired?
When the contractor come to repair my roof, I didn't keep paying him once the job was complete.
They finished the project and now they are fired?
When the contractor come to repair my roof, I didn't keep paying him once the job was complete.
cireza
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This guy's full time job is repairing many roofs, not only yours.
He doesn't end up being unemployed once he has finished repairing your roof...
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cartman414
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The only non-disposable people are stockholders.
In bizarro world, perhaps.
They and the CEOs could easily be replaced by AI.
cartman414
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Question is: Do they necessarily want to?
Another question: What about people on physical disability (chronic or acquired)?
calico
Member
This is not a necessary prerequisite for doing a job. It is a luxury which exists only when other, more desirable jobs are available, or when a welfare system exists in a way which allows people to choose not to work.
Bojji
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Many of the office jobs are just bullshit and pointless
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They are WAY less valuable than jobs like: trash collector, bus driver, electrician, mine worker, farmer etc.
Most of them can be replaced by Ai and society won't even notice (outside of massive unemployment numbers).
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jm89
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Some of those jobs still need a human touch though, atleast for now.Many of the office jobs are just bullshit and pointless
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They are WAY less valuable than jobs like: trash collector, bus driver, electrician, mine worker, farmer etc.
Most of them can be replaced by Ai and society won't even notice (outside of massive unemployment numbers).
Get rid of those jobs now with some AI and we will see chaos.
Bojji
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In the end most jobs will be replaced. humanoid robots will replace manual workers as well but it's probably still quite some time until they become cheap and good enough.
Future looks like shit...
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Breakfast at Noon
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But was these people hired for this specific task also?
If not that's fair enough, just saying
Felessan
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"Not supported by actual data"
It's just bullshit to support some DEI ideas that follows like UBI
Every point from 1 to 5 have a reason to exists and they exist to add actual value
No
Many of these jobs are very tricky and either PvP job (whoever gotta better person at job have competitive advantage) or deal heavily with social interraction
Bojji
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Many of those (office) jobs were created in the last few decades. Advanced society was fine without them before.
Many people can literally sit butt naked in their homes and "work", this tells you something. Doesn't it?
And without UBI how you imagine the future? Most people will have nothing to do once Ai and robots replace them. Without money they won't be "consumers" as well.
Felessan
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And many were created as a part of optimization business processes, offloading non-core tasks to others (increase specialization of workers) to improve certain area efficiency.
Robots, automatization and now AI allow companies to have deeper visibility, control and optimization of business processes, put a more granular division of roles in labor and make corporate cogs even smaller and even more specific.
Those who "work" will be fired eventually regardless of AI. Any job can sit and "work" on various excuses or external circumstances.
People still sew clothes by hand. Take a hint.
It often so that the cost to automate, be it robot, program or AI is bigger than work benefit from this job and it'll take hundreds years to recoup costs. So these jobs left untouched because it's "economically inefficient" to replace them with any form of automatization.
And such jobs exists on any level, be it blue-collar, white-collar or some creative stuff.
And UBI is a stupid pipe dream, those who don't work neither should eat. Giving money for free means that your economy becomes inefficient and fragile and others who don't implement UBI will have competitive advantage over yours and you'll lose in long term
cartman414
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That person said, "if they want to". Which infers they might not want to.
I think this "suck it up" mentality ignores the human factor involved in creative endeavors, deliberately, in an excuse to weed out those jobs, regardless of the quality drop.
AI can't really replace things like independent creators though. I think there are going to be blindspots that can be taken advantage of.
calico
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Yes, my point was 'so what if they don't want to?'
We are discussing a scenario where the job they 'want' to do no longer exists. The 'I'm too good for job x' attitude is typically very quickly overcome by the reality of having no income.
cartman414
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The phrase "I'm too good for" is one of ego/dignity, not desire.
Now, one may take said job out of necessity, but can they be blamed for not wanting to be stuck doing it for the rest of their life?
calico
Member
They can 'not want to do it' as much as they like. Plenty of people are working jobs they don't want to do.
I'm not saying I blame them (people replaced by AI) for not wanting to do it; I'm saying that -in the absence of other options- it's irrelevant whether they want to do it or not.
