Plenty of trade jobs out there and not enough folks to fill the slots. Construction, electricians, HVAC, etc. when we shifted from vocational learning to more university education, the perception change for blue collar workers hit hard.
Just going to need to work outside jobs more. There are plenty of jobs to fill.
Problem with that view is that humans are inherently lazy.Plenty of trade jobs out there and not enough folks to fill the slots. Construction, electricians, HVAC, etc. when we shifted from vocational learning to more university education, the perception change for blue collar workers hit hard.
Just going to need to work outside jobs more. There are plenty of jobs to fill.
I have and the nuanced tasks most blue collar jobs, will be safe. Most blue collar work involves a lot of on the fly complex problem solving, dealing with customers face to face.You seen the advancement in robotics these days? AI and robotics are on a collision course. Blue collar ain't safe
For blue collar AI kinds of roles, it can heavily affect jobs if the company goes gonzo like Amazon automating fulfilment facilities as much as possible with all kinds of robots and stuff doing things. BUT, even those distribution centres have tons of workers there too. So even Amazon needs a lot of human power.I have and the nuanced tasks most blue collar jobs, will be safe. Most blue collar work involves a lot of on the fly complex problem solving, dealing with customers face to face.
AI will surely take some jobs, but it will also make productivity easier in areas that will open other opportunities to learn AI and the machinery to better help take the load off the worker.
At this point it will be an extension of the worker that could help with issues and problem solving without having manuals and a trouble shooting tree, schematics, etc.
Also, the later half of my career we used drones in the Horn of Africa and Afghanistan in beta and they haven't as of almost a decade later been able to supplant any Marines or had any MOS's closed because of it.
Lots of jobs out there for everyone, evening agriculture.
My own opinion, of course. I can also see your side.
@grok make a plan to start an anti A.I. MovementMan, A.I. is gonna destroy a lot of people's jobs. Maybe it's time to join an anti-A.I. movement?
Better watch that, it may put all pro-AI folks in concentration camps.@grok make a plan to start an anti A.I. Movement
Lots of them can't even hammer a nail, what are talking about?Most of them are mentally capable of doing those jobs, even if they do initially hyperventilate at the thought of getting their hands dirty.
A skill which takes all of 30 seconds to learn if they ever had a need to learn it.Lots of them can't even hammer a nail, what are talking about?
The world will become pretty much like Fallout but without the nukes stuff. Damn!!! Todd saw this coming.Progress, does not matter if you like it or not, once a machine can do your job, it just makes it better and cheaper.
We could have no unemployed people at all, worldwide, if just mining, farming and the car industry were not using any motorized machines. Difference to AI is this threat is eliminating white collar jobs and we currently have nothing in sight that replaces it.
This guy's full time job is repairing many roofs, not only yours.I've never understood peoples reactions to things like this.
They finished the project and now they are fired?
When the contractor come to repair my roof, I didn't keep paying him once the job was complete.
The only non-disposable people are stockholders.
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Question is: Do they necessarily want to?There is a whole lot of jealousy in here.
Just because they could earn their living by sitting on a chair and typing, doesn't make them any less valuable than blue collar workers or farmers.
It also doesn't mean they can't do manual labor work if they want to.
This is not a necessary prerequisite for doing a job. It is a luxury which exists only when other, more desirable jobs are available, or when a welfare system exists in a way which allows people to choose not to work.Question is: Do they necessarily want to?
There is a whole lot of jealousy in here.
Just because they could earn their living by sitting on a chair and typing, doesn't make them any less valuable than blue collar workers or farmers.
It also doesn't mean they can't do manual labor work if they want to.
Some of those jobs still need a human touch though, atleast for now.Many of the office jobs are just bullshit and pointless
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They are WAY less valuable than jobs like: trash collector, bus driver, electrician, mine worker, farmer etc.
Most of them can be replaced by Ai and society won't even notice (outside of massive unemployment numbers).
Some of those jobs still need a human touch though, atleast for now.
Get rid of those jobs now with some AI and we will see chaos.
But was these people hired for this specific task also?This guy's full time job is repairing many roofs, not only yours.
He doesn't end up being unemployed once he has finished repairing your roof...
"Not supported by actual data"
Every point from 1 to 5 have a reason to exists and they exist to add actual valueThey are WAY less valuable than jobs like: trash collector, bus driver, electrician, mine worker, farmer etc.
NoMost of them can be replaced by Ai and society won't even notice (outside of massive unemployment numbers).
"Not supported by actual data"
It's just bullshit to support some DEI ideas that follows like UBI
Every point from 1 to 5 have a reason to exists and they exist to add actual value
No
Many of these jobs are very tricky and either PvP job (whoever gotta better person at job have competitive advantage) or deal heavily with social interraction
And many were created as a part of optimization business processes, offloading non-core tasks to others (increase specialization of workers) to improve certain area efficiency.Many of those (office) jobs were created in the last few decades. Advanced society was fine without them before.
Those who "work" will be fired eventually regardless of AI. Any job can sit and "work" on various excuses or external circumstances.Many people can literally sit butt naked in their homes and "work", this tells you something. Doesn't it?
People still sew clothes by hand. Take a hint.And without UBI how you imagine the future? Most people will have nothing to do once Ai and robots replace them. Without money they won't be "consumers" as well.
This is not a necessary prerequisite for doing a job. It is a luxury which exists only when other, more desirable jobs are available, or when a welfare system exists in a way which allows people to choose not to work.
Yes, my point was 'so what if they don't want to?'That person said, "if they want to". Which infers they might not want to.
Yes, my point was 'so what if they don't want to?'
We are discussing a scenario where the job they 'want' to do no longer exists. The 'I'm too good for job x' attitude is typically very quickly overcome by the reality of having no income.
They can 'not want to do it' as much as they like. Plenty of people are working jobs they don't want to do.Now, one may take said job out of necessity, but can they be blamed for not wanting to be stuck doing it for the rest of their life?