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[anothertech]

Move the goalposts more lol

You moved the goalposts cuz you had no argument lol. The gif is perfectly accurate. Take your little insults to someone who actually cares about your opinion

The fuck this clown goin on about?

You got Craig so far and fuckall else for foreseeable future...

 

[kuncol02]

We know what they did with RARE...

They need to earn my trust. We'll see

Kept them long alive so they could go back to make great games? MS never pushed Rare to develop kinect games. How many other great studios never had similar chance? What happened with Evolution and London Studio after their games weren't hits sony hopped for?

 

[Snake29]

Name and shame.
Too many "xbox fans" "ps fans " but no receipts who exactly are you talking about and can you point me to the thread.

What did MS lie about, they said atleast 2 years of XGS crossgen while Sony told "we believe in generations" only for us to find MS crossgen 2 years is pretty much exactly what Sony is doing.

MS was making acquisition but never said all these studios would have launch titles.

Give me the reciepts so i can agree or disagree.

Still waiting for their "largest launch line up ever"......



See all empty promises.

 

[betrayal]

In the botton left corner of the image it says "created by klobrille". "klobrille" means toilet seat. That pretty much sums it up. Nobody shits on a toilet seat, but you are always very close to getting shit on. The toilet seat in this case is probably the customer.

We'll have to wait and see how well the "Hey, we can't do anything ourselves and we're throwing dollars around" approach works.

 

[MonarchJT]

In the botton left corner of the image it says "created by klobrille". "klobrille" means toilet seat. That pretty much sums it up. Nobody shits on a toilet seat, but you are always very close to getting shit on. The toilet seat in this case is probably the customer.

We'll have to wait and see how well the "Hey, we can't do anything ourselves and we're throwing dollars around" approach works.

wtf this mean ...

 

[PropellerEar]

wtf this mean ...

Spence sits on that obelisk, and that is how he regenerates all that hot air?

 

[djjinx2]

They will manage them like rare and lost odissey... i see gass model everywhere.

Gaas isn't a bad thing if the game is good!
I have over 1000 hours in Warzone and I'm more than happy to throw a few quid at it every now and again, if Everwild is outstanding but smaller and episodic with loot, I'll happily spend a few £.

A good game is a good game, regardless how the devs/ms earn money

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I feel that we should wait for these games to materialize and become available first before we start to celebrate and label these games as masterpieces. I feel that a good amount of these franchises and games show promise and will be good, but I'm not sure if they will compare to Sony and Nintendo exclusives. Konami owns a lot of great franchises, but they ain't doing nothing with them. We will see eventually.

 

[Tommi84]

Great, now, show me some awesome games, because owning an IP and not doing great games with it doesn't make any difference.

And just so we're clear, competition in games is awesome and xbox fanboys and ps fanboys gains from it. Xbox because they get great games, ps because Sony would need to step up the game.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

So complainers says MS has no exclusives, they put up lots of games coming up,
Then complained they aren't showing anything, then MS does a bunch of reveals of games coming out in the next 1-2 years and its not enough,
However, if the games are shown, then they are mad it isn't Gameplay even if the games are in early development...
YET ...
People went ape shit over a GoW logo, and a horizon zero dawn cinematic...
Gamers are a bunch of indecisive, double standard having people... Games take times to bake, go do something else while you wait, and let the ones that are excited stay excited.

I think the reason people are being critical of Microsoft is because it has been known that Microsoft purchased a plethora of studios in 2017 or something if I remember correctly and they still haven't really shown anything besides CGI trailers and demos after all this time.

Also, releases on XBOX One really slowed down and Microsoft jumped to next generation, so gamers insinuated that they would have more to show when the XSX was released. Besides Halo: Infinite, we don't know when the next high profile game is coming out on XSX.

 

[Haggard]

Fans: Look at all those studios/IPs/Investments.
Realists: Where are the games?

We´re in year 5 or 6 of MS´ neverending odyssey of "just wait".

 

[Black_Stride]

Still waiting for their "largest launch line up ever"......



See all empty promises.

Noting this is based on and counting bc.
And which console launch had more titles?
Nowhere am i seeing exclusive launch lineup, also considering every XGS game is also PC.

 

[Topher]

I was referring to exclusives as a whole. Which ones win GOTY in the years ahead I won't pretend to predict. If you think everything PS4 part two will dominate GOTY awards this gen that's brave on your part. My argument was simply that Sony no longer enjoys the depth of development compared to MS that they once did.

Not sure how brave I have to be considering the fact that if you compare Sony's output of GOTY winners from last gen to the combination of everything offered by Microsoft's existing and new studios, including the whole of Zenimax, and Sony still comes out on top. That doesn't predict the future, but I'm still not going to bet against Sony considering their track record. That would be quite brave.

Might be better to just wait and see what happens.

 

[DemonCleaner]

sea of thieves?

rare was one of the biggest AAA studios in the 90ies. what have they produced in the last decade? sea of thieves?

 

[kuncol02]

rare was one of the biggest AAA studios in the 90ies. what have they produced in the last decade? sea of thieves?

Rare games quality felt down even before MS acquisition. They struggled with games quality since 6th generation.

 

[Concern]

Wait you mentioned the same games being shown at every E3 so were you talking about TLOU Part II, Ghost of Tsushima, etc because there's been many games that released on PS while waiting for those

Who's talking about last gen? Lmao

You took a whole day waiting for your buddies to try dogpiling with moving goalposts for you to refer to last gen now?

Don't even reply anymore. You guys are looking really bad moving goalposts and throwing insults. Just because you can't justify a 13 year old remake, $50 dlc, and $70 indie game.

My one post got a reply from 6 fanboys and all moved goalposts except one. Take your bait elsewhere lol

 

[Romulus]

One of their stated goals was to make make you salty.

They failed miserably then, which is consistent with everything else at least. And good grief at the warrioring since the post I'm quoting. We got ourselves a true lvl 99 MS knight here.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I'm not an Xbox hater.. but that list of studios isn't super exciting to me.

Bethesda as an RPG maker is my favorite company though; but they put out maybe 2 games a decade.

 

[Hobbygaming]

Who's talking about last gen? Lmao

You took a whole day waiting for your buddies to try dogpiling with moving goalposts for you to refer to last gen now?

Don't even reply anymore. You guys are looking really bad moving goalposts and throwing insults. Just because you can't justify a 13 year old remake, $50 dlc, and $70 indie game.

My one post got a reply from 6 fanboys and all moved goalposts except one. Take your bait elsewhere lol

So what PS5 games have been at every E3 if you weren't talking about last generation?

 

[Concern]

So what PS5 games have been at every E3 if you weren't talking about last generation?

When did I mention E3? You're confusing me with someone else.

 

[Hobbygaming]

I think the reason people are being critical of Microsoft is because it has been known that Microsoft purchased a plethora of studios in 2017 or something if I remember correctly and they still haven't really shown anything besides CGI trailers and demos after all this time.

Also, releases on XBOX One really slowed down and Microsoft jumped to next generation, so gamers insinuated that they would have more to show when the XSX was released. Besides Halo: Infinite, we don't know when the next high profile game is coming out on XSX.

This is 100% accurate. There was also MS being coy with their words saying they have the biggest launch lineup

 

[Hobbygaming]

When did I mention E3? You're confusing me with someone else.

My apologies you're right it was captainraincoat that made the E3 comment, you just liked it

But anyhow since you're downplaying PS5's launch lineup so hard, you surely think the XSX launch lineup was horrible right?

 

[Camreezie]

Cool, how are MS released or announced games doing with those IP?

 

[Concern]

My apologies you're right it was captainraincoat that made the E3 comment, you just liked it

But anyhow since you're downplaying PS5's launch lineup so hard, you surely think the XSX launch lineup was horrible right?

I've said from the beginning this gen launch was terrible. The biggest game we got was a remake on Ps5. No sense in upgrading yet.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Great image AAA games will be available year long according to that image I feel like it's the new PS2 launch game lineup, Microsoft means business.

 

[StormCell]

i don't know how well they can manage them , but just looking at this image tells you MS is DONE playing the underdog in every generation

well, Phil, i never cared for your company before, you most definitely have my attention now

What image are you looking at, OP? I want to see it. I've been on the fence about PS5 vs XSX. I want to see the image.

 

[TKOFromTokyo]

Sony GAF told me MS wouldn't give up sales by making games exclusive, lol!

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

It's weird that less than 10% of the sub prefers Xbox yet we constantly get these Xbox propaganda posts

 

[StormCell]

It's weird that less than 10% of the sub prefers Xbox yet we constantly get these Xbox propaganda posts

You find that weird? I find it weird that probably 80% of this sub owns a Switch but you'll have to dig through another sub to find the discussion about it.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

You find that weird? I find it weird that probably 80% of this sub owns a Switch but you'll have to dig through another sub to find the discussion about it.

Most people who own Switches have them as secondary consoles, though, so they're not particularly invested in them. At least on forums like this

 

[StormCell]

What image are you looking at, OP? I want to see it. I've been on the fence about PS5 vs XSX. I want to see the image.

Is this the image OP is referring to?

 

[StormCell]

Most people who own Switches have them as secondary consoles, though, so they're not particularly invested in them. At least on forums like this

I understand, and that's cool. Personally, I'm not as invested in the hardware nowadays because I can have every platform I want as far as I'm willing to throw money into it. I'm far more invested in certain games like GTA, Elder Scrolls, Legend of Zelda, and a variety of other niche titles, and also Minecraft. For me, the magic of the hardware is about gone because even if Xbox had some special hardware AI that enabled dynamic stories (where your actions could truly have nearly unpredictable impacts across the story world), the majority of developers are only going to leverage that feature in as much as they can get away with not using it if feature parity doesn't exist on the next box (in this case, the Playstation).

Pretty much, the only thing a new gen brings is "Hey, you can do that? I do it too / I do it better!" Meh. Not a whole lot worth talking about.

 

[Bradamante3D]

So many franchises that Microsoft can turn into generic mediocrity, love it.

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

X:\*searching for games*
...searching...
...searching...
...searching...
...searching...
...query returned 0 result(s).

X:\*sorry, not games were found, try again later or contact your system administrator if you believe it's an error*

X:\_

Spoiler

Not into console war, I buy every system at the end

 

[Mr.ODST]

So many franchises that Microsoft can turn into generic mediocrity, love it.

Love seeing these salty fanboys

 

[SinDelta]

I see all of those game studios assembled under one Microsoft banner but no released games. The time delay is concerning, especially the problems that have occured with their flagship title Halo Infinite (some of the issues like the graphics look to be addressed judging by more recent screenshots however.)

It takes time to make games, but still...

 

[Muddy]

After what Microsoft did to Rare I wouldn't be so optimistic.

 

[HaveButOneLife]

For all 3 first party companies, it's always about the waiting game, they don't plan their exclusives ahead so they show them years before they release to hype people up, only to disappoint with mediocre reception, Microsoft this generation especially. Hopefully they can make better games because right now Nintendo is the only one I can count on even though they tend to release expensive ports and have been sitting on Metroid and Bayonetta for a while now.

 

[Rat Rage]

Microsoft needs at least double the amount of these studios to ever win a console generation. They have more chances buying Nintendo and Sony together and thereby declaring them the "winner".

I think the Amiico is gonna outsell Xbox this gen.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Making the DOOM franchise exclusive to the monster-energy-box would effectively kill it... I mean, it's the franchise that I've had running I some form on every device since I was a kid, even if it was just homebrew in some cases (Wii). DOOM should be everywhere.

 

[Zok310]

Love seeing these salty fanboys

Its true tho, going off the history

 

[Amiga]

The guts of 90s Rare had already left to make Free Radical and other studios. Nintendo knew they sold MS a 300 million dollar empty carcass. But without Nintendos guidance and marketing dollars even Free Radical never reached the heights 90s Rare did.

they still had the technical DNA, Kameo and other games showed it. MS needed to build on that. bring in people with a mix of experience and talent and let them grow the studio and apply their expertise.
but what I suspect MS do is they put mandates and checklists and promote whoever promises to achieve them. so they end up with ambitious climbers who over promised and deteriorate their studio and walk out after getting "MS project leader" in their resume.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Come to think of the distinction here... I love original exclusives, where a franchise is exclusive because the platform helped bring it into existence (either in-house, or through subsidizing & putting trust in an unknown developer, etc). Those are earned exclusives, and they show that a console helped to bring something new into the world.

On the other hand, purchased exclusives, where a franchise already existed but was bought out and restricted to one platform, are a disgrace, and have only negative effects on gaming as a whole.

 

[Papacheeks]

For all 3 first party companies, it's always about the waiting game, they don't plan their exclusives ahead so they show them years before they release to hype people up, only to disappoint with mediocre reception, Microsoft this generation especially. Hopefully they can make better games because right now Nintendo is the only one I can count on even though they tend to release expensive ports and have been sitting on Metroid and Bayonetta for a while now.

So Sony didn't show 12 months of software last year in their June event? Because they did and 3-4 of those have released. And More coming soon. Nintendo's issue is they can't supply software fast enough while the others have more third party support and exclusive third party to pad out their slate.

 

[futurama78]

System sellers. I want them! I'm happy for MS ^_*

 

[SoggyBiscuit]

I really hope the higher-ups at MS don't get too caught up in trends again. I feel a lot of lessons have been learned since the Kinect pushing/Casual market grab of the 360 and early Xbox One days, with such a massive amount of talent under their wing, I just want MS to let their teams get on with projects and make fantastic games. It's about time Sony had some sort of rival in the exclusivity space and with these acquisitions MS have been spearheading they now have to back it up with some actual games.

Surely it's impossible to fuck it up with such an incredible roster of IP?

 

[DrAspirino]

How'd that work out for Rare?

They've been nominated to "develop" industry excellence award, won BAFTA awards, and have won other awards since Microsoft acquisition, so they have been quite successful.

In fact, they even hit 15 million players mark with "Sea of Thieves" last year (their most successful game in their history), so I'd say their deal with Microsoft has worked quite well.

 

[Andodalf]

I see all of those game studios assembled under one Microsoft banner but no released games. The time delay is concerning, especially the problems that have occured with their flagship title Halo Infinite (some of the issues like the graphics look to be addressed judging by more recent screenshots however.)

It takes time to make games, but still...

Imagine how embarrassing it would be if Sony had multiple AAA titles delayed! Thankfully GT, HZD2, and GoW2 will all be here so soon!

 

[KAL2006]

For me it's about delivery instead of hype

I remember
ReCore from the makers of Metroid Prime
Crackdown 3, power of the cloud next gen destruction
Fable Legends multiplayer RPG
Halo Infinite before the gameplay reveal

The list goes on. Don't get me wrong Nintendo and Sony both do this too but they have had more hits than Microsoft. Not saying GotY isn't a metric but I think in the past 6 years Sony and Nintendo have had around 10 GotY nomenees each while Microsoft had none.

None the less maybe Microsoft will turn it around this time but I would never ever buy a system based on promises I'd want to see the games actually release and do well before.

 

[Cyborg]

Owning them is one thing. Doing something with them is a whole other thing.

I agree!

Im happy for the Xbox/PC fans that they will enjoy the exclusives and that Gamepass will get a boost in content and value. But I need to see some new games/experiences from these studios that will exceed my expectations. I have good hopes and this was a good ''get'' for MS for sure.