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Multiple Stabbing at Neo-Nazi Rally in Sacramento
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Top notch.
Neo-nazis are scum. Antifa are scum. I don't have to pick a side here, they're both total shit.
Like that guy hitting a woman in the back of the head with a stick as she's getting up? Scum. I don't care if that woman is a racist*, you don't do that.
Edit: *Or Antifa, apparently!
LOL @ USA
Ether_Snake
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The thing is it's weird, here we had some anarchists meet up, call the cops, then bombard them with molotovs, and disappear like nothing happened. Or 30 of them go into a shop in broad daylight on a weekend and smash the store. No arrests in either cases, no ongoing investigations, nothing. But this is a bunch of young people who are active on social media and what not, they could easily be found, but no. You only get arrests when people protest against the government when there are young and old people and women with their children, and usually only the people not part of the anarchist groups.
thebigmanjosh
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smokeandmirrors
Banned
"both sides are bad"
alright then. I'll tend to think the people espousing white supremacy and other racist bullshit to be worst but enjoy the view from up on your high horse.
as bad as nazis guise.
also the dude who is hitting the woman is a nazi so... nice.
Phantast2k
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This is correct. I was googling to find the origin of that logo when it was right there in the article.
http://www.tradworker.org/
Matt Heimbach with the KY Traditionalist Worker Party - YouTube
New breed of Neo-Nazis.
I mean, yeah. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Sure, white supremacists are worse, but that shouldn't prevent us from recognising that the "other side" in this case is a bunch of violent maniacs swinging sticks around.
Edit: Or oh shit, I was wrong about that guy? It's usually Antifa who wear those types of masks, so I thought... I take that back, then.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
No, not at all costs.
Attacked for being mistaken as Nazis or attacked for actually being Nazis?
Are you willing to give up your right to freedom of assembly to stop them?
smokeandmirrors
Banned
are you willing to let them gain power and strip you of your rights? Or do you think all viewpoints are valid, even those that espouse white supremacy, racism, and genocide?
Well yes, if he's European.
Seductivpancakes
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I still find it perplexing any country that has fought the Nazis can have anyone that is pro Nazi.
I'm confident enough in the laws of the country and my fellow citizens that their assembly will be mocked more than it will be supported. The best way to kill ignorance is shine a light on it.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Having freedom to speak reprehensible words is not akin to taking power. It's exercising the right that people have fought and died for in this country.
Of course, you appear to be a regressive liberal, so you'd rather just violently shut up those you disagree with rather than win through open debate. I honestly hope you never run into someone like you who decides something you're discussing is wrong and decides to violently silence you.
believe it or not, two different groups can both be bad. And yes, TWP is a racist group
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/10/19/meet-new-wave-extremists-gearing-2016-elections
smokeandmirrors
Banned
i dont. Trump has a portion of the population willing to vote for him.
"regressive liberal"
yep. You're not worth my time.
BUT NAZI'S HAVE LEGITIMATE POINTS TOO
Freedom of speech and expression/right to assemble (peacefully) is not the same as saying all viewpoints are valid.
Neo-Nazis are uneducated people. I've recently started reading a lot about Hitler and the nazi movement. I had no idea Hitler was Time magazines man of the year twice due to him pulling the economy out of the toilet and creating jobs. Such a influential man was a psycho and everyone fell for it. These "neo nazis" don't know shit. Just watched some documentaries and think they are top dog. Get fucked.
I'm drunk btw, but what I typed is true. Hitler was man of the year twice due to his economical work lol.
I'm drunk btw, but what I typed is true. Hitler was man of the year twice due to his economical work lol.
Machine
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Pesky First Amendment allowing these scum to have public rallies. Obviously their Constitutional rights to free speech and freedom of assembly should be revoked.
Interesting story about a past KKK rally that I was just reading about: http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2013/10/former_ann_arborite_reflects_o.html
Sarcasm!
Interesting story about a past KKK rally that I was just reading about: http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2013/10/former_ann_arborite_reflects_o.html
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
The thing is, these people don't really hold any power. It's not the 1920s. Let them have their dumb little pow wow as the law dictates. At the end of the day they're just a bunch of weirdos sitting around expressing impotent rage and not really doing much.
Wait, your part of the anti-Trump camp? I'd swear from reading your posts in this thread i thought you were pro-Trump, seriously.
unfortunately due to ease of access to information we have a lot of uneducated people now as well, since so much false information and hate speech is spread online. Sites like stormfront are where these people are bred but now it can even happen on your facebook or wherever
smokeandmirrors
Banned
then you really need to learn to actually read.
Right.... the people who want to strip the groups they disagree with of their rights. People who dislike freedom of assembly and speech normally support Trump.
tfur
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He/she is not liberal at all. They are promoting Progressive Authoritarianism.
They are willing to dispose of basic civil liberties.
Phantast2k
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Their poster for this occasion:
Everything they say reeks of Aleksandr Dugin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From their FB:
This is a flag of Putin propped Novorossiya republic.
A fake entity they established on occupied Ukrainian territory.
Small world huh? Welcome in Putin's hybrid war, America.
Everything they say reeks of Aleksandr Dugin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From their FB:
This is a flag of Putin propped Novorossiya republic.
A fake entity they established on occupied Ukrainian territory.
Small world huh? Welcome in Putin's hybrid war, America.
Jawbreaker
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Holy shit, that woman got clobbered badly.
Telephone Man
Member
Eh. I wouldn't silence them, but I'm not gonna feel bad if someone else does.
Especially since my sis got verbally attacked when walking past one while visiting Germany.
As long as racists have fear and second thoughts of putting their bullshit out in public, I'm content.
Especially since my sis got verbally attacked when walking past one while visiting Germany.
As long as racists have fear and second thoughts of putting their bullshit out in public, I'm content.
It's insane. I never really looked into Hitler until recently because I thought I knew all there was from History classes. I was wrong. It's almost as if he manipulated a country by helping its economy and then following up with, "also, lets kill these people. You have to because I turned us around." Also, the whole, "blue eyed and blonde hair" thing is a myth. Not sure how that was created. So much information these days.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
only against nazi's. everyone else is fine.
according to people in this thread? yes of course. gotta let everyone have a platform to express their hate.
Lemme slide down this slope.
According to your post above mine responding to another poster, you'd be okay with an al qaeda meet up though.
Or are they now part of your list?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Al Qaeda has money and power. These guys have Ford Windstars and neckbeards. Not really comparable at all.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I think that, philosophically, we have a responsibility to defang ideas via other ideas. If that fails, and sterner measures are needed, so be, but considering Neo-Nazism is still, like, 1% or less of the country (most Trump supporters, while racist and often mired in alt-right bullshit, are not even close), there really are no grounds on which to say that there is some kind of virtue in assaulting them in this instance, even if, karmically, they deserve it.
Edit: Oh, the injured people were counter-protesters, mostly? Lock these fuckos up, then!
smokeandmirrors
Banned
Not falling for your attempt at a gotcha. It's not gonna work. Of course al Qaeda are awful and shouldn't have a platform either. But i wasn't aware of a large vocal contentment of al Qaeda members in this country.
Al Qaeda is an armed group with money and power of which we have been in a state of conflict with for nearly a quarter of a century and still partakes in operations of war against the United States in war zones, either directly or through splinter groups.
We haven't fought a war against Organized Nazi-ism in over half a century.
How this simple difference is lost to people continues to baffle me.
Ok these people can't plan large scale attacks that threaten to destabilize the entire nation but can do catastrophic damage at a local level and have done so historically around the world for decades. Assaulting other races, killing poor and homeless people and threatening entire neighborhoods. They wield weapons and are armed with hate and are organized at a local level. They're terrorists through and through especially considering they're taking one of the most vile organizations in modern history as a tentpole for their warped ideology. They are armed and trained to commit hate crimes against population groups to further grow their influence at a local level.
How people can't see that local terrorism is a thing that happens in every country baffles me. But then again, America
I understand that this could've been said about comunists in America during the red scare, so drawing hard lines is tough. But I'll draw a soft line and not allow public manifestations of hate groups and have them well registered.
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