GoldCrusader
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My Hero Academia S2 |OT| This is Going to Stain my Hero Record. No Manga Spoilers!!!
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Season 1 was a bad adaptation.
Like, as far as I can tell, everybody who read the manga was like, "this is really good and has potential" after those 21 chapters, and that was true even when those chapters were releasing weekly. In comparison, Season 1 had far more mixed reactions from everybody, even people who'd never read the series before. It was frustrating as hell.
They better not repeat that same mistake with Season 2, because come on.
Like, as far as I can tell, everybody who read the manga was like, "this is really good and has potential" after those 21 chapters, and that was true even when those chapters were releasing weekly. In comparison, Season 1 had far more mixed reactions from everybody, even people who'd never read the series before. It was frustrating as hell.
They better not repeat that same mistake with Season 2, because come on.
OniBarubary
Banned
I said it before but they approached it like an ongoing series and not a 1 cour and ya can't do that if you only have 1 cour.
I'll give the episode a watch after I wake up.
I'll give the episode a watch after I wake up.
Hippolnareff
Member
Enjoyed the first Season and it's very fresh in my mind so I'm subbing!
GoldCrusader
Member
That damn dimming in the op tho, I wish it wasn't there.
GoldCrusader
Member
Oh please people how about you guys wait a little before going all doom and gloom.
GoldCrusader
Member
But the MHA anime is great and I'll tell anyone and everyone to watch it. Stop being so dramatic.
Season 1 isn't that bad. But what're they going to do when the arcs start being 15 chapters long, as the arcs after the Sports Festival are? They'd have no choice but to start Toei-ing it up.
So there's literally no reason to bother if they don't shape up soon. The music's the only worthwhile thing, but you can buy the OST separately.
OniBarubary
Banned
Pretty much. If there's one thing I cannot stand in anime it's pointless and multitudinous recaps. The start of the episode was a complete downer because the recaps just kept coming and gave you no hype or draw.
Which is unfortunate because the rest of the episode played to a strength the anime actually is good at which is letting it's cast breathe. They let the class occupy some space and bounce off each other and it was entertaining to see them just interact.
But as a result so little happened in the episode and specifically nothing to hype you up for the anime. They TOLD you about the festival and were like "This will be a cool thing!" instead of just doing something cool like segueing right to the start before ending as it begins.
The humor keeps having weird issues too like...they linger on jokes too long. Example of good comedic timing? Mineta saying PMS and getting tongueslapped by Tsuyu. It's quick, we get the joke and it has a funny resolve. Example of bad comedic timing? Ochako acting all gung-ho and everyone repeating it and her repeating it and then an internal monologue repeating it. It was funny for the first part and then it just...kept going. It overstayed it's welcome.
Okay episode but with the issues from the first season looking like they're back I'm...hesitant.
Really good ED tho. The song is alright I guess but they focused on the girls and it gave a very nice feeling as they're unfortunately not often involved in big stuff as much as the guys.
GoldCrusader
Member
Ok so how about we wait for that to happen instead of currently predicting the worst and saying we should close the thread?
First episode was great, so let's talk about how Deku was so awesome in that intro.
First episode was great, so let's talk about how Deku was so awesome in that intro.
Iida's bravos were hilarious at least
OniBarubary
Banned
Yeah, the hallway scene with Ochako was actually really really well done. Funny and cute while developing her character well. Iida hand movements are always funny.
GoldCrusader
Member
So wait now they did a mediocre job with episode one? Didn't you say it was really good on the previous page?
I thought episode 1 was great so I have all the reasons to be hopeful.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Source?
GoldCrusader
Member
Also it's cool to note that the MHA recap had a higher rating then Naruto's last episode.
It was a good episode but as an adaptation, it was mediocre, yes. It'll be alright if the rest of the episodes are better done, but if they're all going to be like this, then yeah, it'll retroactively be a mediocre episode.
Nothing I can cite, but that's the general opinion I've seen from people in Japan. And it's pretty obvious when you compare the weak ratings of Season 1 with the high sales of the manga.
I believe Nico Nico Douga or something voted it their Most Disappointing Show or something like that.
GoldCrusader
Member
And as for popularity in the west I wouldn't worry it's already pretty hot. It's been the #1 show on funimation since forever and #2 right now on Crunchyroll. It ranked high on many anime community's list and received the best anime of the year in the New York times.
And the manga sells super well.
And the manga sells super well.
Also, the thing is, there's no reason to stretch the episodes out. They had a plausible reason with Season 1 because the episode count was awkward, but with Season 2? The episode count is literally ideal for the best ending point, Chapter 95.
The only reason they would stretch out like this is if they were greedy and wanted to get more money from more seasons. Hence, they'd literally be like Toei.
The only reason I can see them doing it like this with this episode is if they want the next few ones to end at a certain points, and couldn't adapt that many chapters this episode. Hence why I'm waiting for the next two episodes before deciding.
The only reason they would stretch out like this is if they were greedy and wanted to get more money from more seasons. Hence, they'd literally be like Toei.
The only reason I can see them doing it like this with this episode is if they want the next few ones to end at a certain points, and couldn't adapt that many chapters this episode. Hence why I'm waiting for the next two episodes before deciding.
Yeah, it was a mediocre adaptation. I don't know where you've been looking, but Season 1 received mixed reactions from both anime-first viewers and manga readers, where the equivalent section of the manga received genuinely universal praise.
GoldCrusader
Member
Only a few people here. The anime adapted things well.
No, it's extremely faithful. Some people didn't like the pacing, which was kinda slow.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Season 1 was painful due to pacing, loads of exposition and the dredge that was character development (whiny kid is always whiny with a slight change at the end; an angry kid is always angry with a slight change at the end).
It adapted the story faithfully, but extremely slowly. The manga pacing is incredibly brisk so it was pretty annoying to have everything drag so much in the anime.
13 episodes for 22ish chapters. Recaps aside this is looking to be a bit stronger in every way.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
OK, I haven't spoken to anyone in Japan about it. About the ratings, it should be noted that TV anime ratings are falling precipitously across the board so are of limited use now in determining whether people like a particular show or not. Season 2 should get a ratings boost just by airing in the timeslot before Detective Conan though.
It was "faithful", except the manga relied on the pacing to pull it off. Hence the mixed reactions. The material Season 2 covers can stand up on its own better, but it also relies heavily on the manga's brisk pacing.
There's also other issues, like the iffy art, major moments being botched or diluted, and so on. The season shaped up in the last two episodes, but then it ended.
Like, this complaint was literally a non-issue with the manga. The character development in those 21 chapters was far more obvious in the manga, because of the pacing. The same pacing that Season 1 discarded completely.
There's also other issues, like the iffy art, major moments being botched or diluted, and so on. The season shaped up in the last two episodes, but then it ended.
OniBarubary
Banned
What you have to understand is people aren't dogging on the show and they aren't shitting on Season 1 because they hate MHA.
Almost everyone you see in this OT posts regularly, every week or more, in the Manga OT and fucking LOVE the manga. I LOVE the manga. cntr and Grexeno LOVE the manga. Puruzi LOVES big titties.
The problem then becomes that because we are very invested in the series, when the anime was announced we get hyped and excited. We want it to do well. We want the people who see it to like it like we do. We want it to be a great adaptation so that we can see something we truly enjoy in another format that might heighten certain scenes or characters or fights.
And so when we get a fairly middling show that botches a lot of impactful moments or handles the source material poorly such as the infamous pacing issues and shit art that they had to fix in the Blu-rays such as Shigaraki's intro scene being awful compared to his manga intro or the redone scene it hits us all the harder. We see what it could be and what potential it had to be great and then it just...falters and stumbles and people see that faltering and stumbling and go "Well this show is kinda lame" and we're all "No no, MHA is really really good, we swear" and it becomes frustrating to see something we love turn into a mediocre and mishandled attempt.
We're not dipping on the first episode for no reason, your feud with AnimeGAF negativity or controlling the flow of conversation notwithstanding because it certainly carries weight. But when you have an entire season of evidence and disappointment resting on your backburner and the first episode of the new season had hope for change and...is showing some very clear indications that it did not learn the right lessons from it's problems in the first season it's not absurd for all of us to be wary. This isn't negativity for negativity's sake or trying to one up each other in how cleverly we can rag on a series or seeing how many times we can shove a big word into a bad review to make it look like we actually have some modicum of a critical and well-educated eye, it's people who love the source material getting continuously disappointed with the execution of it's adaptation and worrying that it will hurt people's image of My Hero Academia as a whole.
Almost everyone you see in this OT posts regularly, every week or more, in the Manga OT and fucking LOVE the manga. I LOVE the manga. cntr and Grexeno LOVE the manga. Puruzi LOVES big titties.
The problem then becomes that because we are very invested in the series, when the anime was announced we get hyped and excited. We want it to do well. We want the people who see it to like it like we do. We want it to be a great adaptation so that we can see something we truly enjoy in another format that might heighten certain scenes or characters or fights.
And so when we get a fairly middling show that botches a lot of impactful moments or handles the source material poorly such as the infamous pacing issues and shit art that they had to fix in the Blu-rays such as Shigaraki's intro scene being awful compared to his manga intro or the redone scene it hits us all the harder. We see what it could be and what potential it had to be great and then it just...falters and stumbles and people see that faltering and stumbling and go "Well this show is kinda lame" and we're all "No no, MHA is really really good, we swear" and it becomes frustrating to see something we love turn into a mediocre and mishandled attempt.
We're not dipping on the first episode for no reason, your feud with AnimeGAF negativity or controlling the flow of conversation notwithstanding because it certainly carries weight. But when you have an entire season of evidence and disappointment resting on your backburner and the first episode of the new season had hope for change and...is showing some very clear indications that it did not learn the right lessons from it's problems in the first season it's not absurd for all of us to be wary. This isn't negativity for negativity's sake or trying to one up each other in how cleverly we can rag on a series or seeing how many times we can shove a big word into a bad review to make it look like we actually have some modicum of a critical and well-educated eye, it's people who love the source material getting continuously disappointed with the execution of it's adaptation and worrying that it will hurt people's image of My Hero Academia as a whole.
The only reason I'm not giving up entirely is because this episode was fun enough, the expanded material was good, and I could see them deciding that the next 3 chapters were better as their own episode.
So it all really depends on what they do with next week's episode, and maybe the week after that.
So it all really depends on what they do with next week's episode, and maybe the week after that.
OniBarubary
Banned
I also love the manga too
Yeah yeah, a likely story