"DIDN'T LEARN, LOL!!"
It's not the first time there have been alcoholic nudges in the show. I mean, hell, her name is Applejack. Then there was Spike's Appleteeny/appletini pun when she shrank.
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That was SO CATCHY.
and lets remember: running the loser out of town was granny smiths idea.
That's named after craziness. The stuff doesn't even taste like apples. Looking it up the name of the cereal apparently comes from the fact that the original shapes for it had an "X" in there as well so as to look sorta like toy jacks.Then what about the kid's cereal? That's named after booze, too?
I don't know if you were supposed to feel sorry for her, but she was getting stressed being wrapped up in the whole thing because of Apple Bloom and Granny Smith mouthing off.Basically they wanted to make money by offering a superior service and/or product.
Are we supposed to feel bad for applejack because the flim brothers are better cider makers?
and lets remember: running the loser out of town was granny smiths idea.
OK question. Am I looking too much into this, or did they just do this...
The Apple family was angering the locals because they couldn't meet the demand. They claimed they were doing all they could, but I'm sure they were actually trying hardest when the competition was on. Regular days? Nah.I think the problem belies on the fact that the brothers wanted more in the share.
Is that really a mistake in the end? If they hadn't went along with that bet, they would've been screwed.I think Applejack's letter to Celestia was pretty awesome, but Applejack wasn't right all along, she made several big mistakes (like not stopping Apple Bloom and Granny from recklessly betting the farm on an absurd boast that they could more than satisfy the entire town in less than an hour), and should have learned something from them.
Well, for what it's worth that doesn't necessarily entail being confident in how fast they can make it.Twilight to Applejack: "Are you sure this is such a good idea?"
Applejack: "Me and the family are 100% confident in our cider making capabilities."
Twilight to Applejack when it's plainly obvious Applejack's going to lose: Is it time to cheat now?
Applejack: Why yes, now would be a very good time to cheat. Thank you for offering.
I think there are a couple of things to consider here. I can believe that Pinkie Pie is more efficient than Apple Bloom at collecting apples, and I can also believe that Rarity is quicker at making quality decisions with the apples than Granny Smith. However with Big Mac and Rainbow Dash at the machine it could work at full speed without tiring out Big Mac.When the untrained Mane 6 jumped in, the Apple family's output suddenly became five times what it was. When it comes to making cider, one Fluttershy is apparently worth four Applejacks, one Pinkie Pie is worth four Apple Blooms, one Rarity is worth four Granny Smiths, and one Rainbow Dash is worth four Big Macs. Does that math sound normal to anyone? The Mane 6 were making volume, not quality. I wouldn't be surprised if their product was worse than the machine.
Ultimately I think the Flim Flams and Apple family could've had something good going together. With the way they were written though (and come on, their names are Flim Flam) I don't think they just wanted to settle down. They saw a chance to pounce on the current situation with the Apple family and either exploit them or eliminate them from the market. And just look at their transportation, it's not lugging the cider machine with it, it IS the cider machine. They're drifters, going from spot to spot to make a quick buck and bailing.I think all the Flim Flam brothers wanted was a place to settle down and get paid good money to rest easy and operate the machine. And yes, the brothers drove a hard bargain with their first offer. The Apple family left a huge untapped market they could exploit, even if Ponyville largely preferred Apple family cider as a luxury item. The brothers probably could've been negotiated down to 50/50 or less and then everyone would have been happy. The end of the episode even showed that they were willing to be talked down, to a penny a barrel even. The brothers could basically have joined the Apple Family (they even already had the right cutie marks).
It was a bet they really couldn't win (Apple Bloom was being an idiot, and Granny Smith knew better until she snapped), and they wouldn't have been screwed, they would've just had competition picking up the bottom half of their market, with eyes on more. The Apple family has a superior-quality product, some degree of customer loyalty, and they don't need to ship their goods.Is that really a mistake in the end? If they hadn't went along with that bet, they would've been screwed.
It was a bet they really couldn't win (Apple Bloom was being an idiot, and Granny Smith knew better until she snapped), and they wouldn't have been screwed, they would've just had competition picking up the bottom half of their market, with eyes on more. The Apple family has a superior-quality product, some degree of customer loyalty, and they don't need to ship their goods.
we dont know that. the flim cider shut up granny smith mid 'quality over quantity' rant.
Probably not amazing like the Apple family Cider, but good enough to be a threat.
or better.
Good marketing can beat that. Apple Acres Cider has that "down home goodness" you just can't get from people who use sanitary equipment.
nothing says cool and refreshing like a giant juice stained rock kept outdoors in the sun.
The Apple family was angering the locals because they couldn't meet the demand. They claimed they were doing all they could, but I'm sure they were actually trying hardest when the competition was on. Regular days? Nah.
And the Flim Flam brothers had a machine that could effortlessly produce comparable product three times as fast as the Apple family's fastest. Full town satisfaction in one hour. (Wait, does this mean that the Apple family's commitment to cider was maybe about an hour a day?) The market could be not just satisfied, but grow to eight times the town's size, and the brothers would still only need to put in an eight hour day. The Apple family claimed to still have a quality edge, but that was probably before the competition when they were taking their time. And with the Apple family's help, the machine might even be refined to reach higher levels of quality. Applejack's exports could've dominated Canterlot, Manehattan, Cloudsdale... now what do you think will happen to Ponyville if the brothers ever get established?
When the untrained Mane 6 jumped in, the Apple family's output suddenly became five times what it was. When it comes to making cider, one Fluttershy is apparently worth four Applejacks, one Pinkie Pie is worth four Apple Blooms, one Rarity is worth four Granny Smiths, and one Rainbow Dash is worth four Big Macs. Does that math sound normal to anyone? The Mane 6 were making volume, not quality. I wouldn't be surprised if their product was worse than the machine.
The Flim Flam brothers were desperate so they did basically the same thing the Apple family did, and turned off quality control. And that's what did them in, because they could only turn their quality off, not dial it down. Their machine was never built with the ability to produce shoddy product.
If the Flim Flam brothers were bringing the Apple Family a way for them to meet demand and make much more cider effortlessly, freeing the Apple Family up for other money-making endeavors, that should be worth something to both of them.
I think all the Flim Flam brothers wanted was a place to settle down and get paid good money to rest easy and operate the machine. And yes, the brothers drove a hard bargain with their first offer. The Apple family left a huge untapped market they could exploit, even if Ponyville largely preferred Apple family cider as a luxury item. The brothers probably could've been negotiated down to 50/50 or less and then everyone would have been happy. The end of the episode even showed that they were willing to be talked down, to a penny a barrel even. The brothers could basically have joined the Apple Family (they even already had the right cutie marks).
I dunno why, but Big Macintosh looks a lot less manly and a lot more cuddly from head-on.
Screenshots from the "Hearts and Hooves Day" valentines day episode have been released via a new game on hub's website.
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/new-hearts-and-hooves-game-on-hasbros.html
Is an episode about Rainbow Dashreadinggoing to be awesome?
On a downer note, there's rumors going around that Hasbro is attempting to stifle "Derpy". I have no clue how they started but apparently people are going crazy about it. Then again, it might be typical brony overreaction.
On a downer note, there's rumors going around that Hasbro is attempting to stifle "Derpy". I have no clue how they started but apparently people are going crazy about it. Then again, it might be typical brony overreaction.
So the entire premise of the episode is just an excuse for a bunch of pony parodies of classic movies/books/whatever?Is an episode about Rainbow Dash reading going to be awesome?
Yes, an episode about Rainbow Dash reading is going to be awesome
On a downer note, there's rumors going around that Hasbro is attempting to stifle "Derpy". I have no clue how they started but apparently people are going crazy about it. Then again, it might be typical brony overreaction.
After the Derpy episode aired, some bronies (only five of them, apparently) who claim to find her very existence offensive and refuse to use her name (insisting on calling her "Ditzy") got in a huff because Derpy didn't fit their headcanon and wrote letters to Amy Keating Rogers (the episode writer) complaining about Derpy, which upset her, and these losers cheered their victory on Ponychan. Thirty bronies from Ponychan apparently sent support letters to her in response and cheered her right up again.
The nutjobs claimed to have also written complaint letters to Hasbro, who allegedly sided with them (of course, companies say a lot of things when you complain, it doesn't always mean anything).
Someone wrote a support letter to DHX Media/Studio B, and they said they haven't heard any complaints, but they apparently stand behind Derpy 100%. As does at least one of the storyboard artists on Deviantart. I suspect anyone creatively involved with the show will support Derpy.
We Love Fine sells a bunch of Pony merchandise, and for some reason they've apparently changed Derpy's name to Ditzy, which suggests that the anti-Derpy nutjobs are going insane, screaming at anyone who will listen.
Apple took down the episode. The Hub didn't. Not sure if it means these guys got to Hasbro, or just Apple.
After the Derpy episode aired, some bronies (only five of them, apparently) who claim to find her very existence offensive and refuse to use her name (insisting on calling her "Ditzy") got in a huff because Derpy didn't fit their headcanon and wrote letters to Amy Keating Rogers (the episode writer) complaining about Derpy, which upset her, and these losers cheered their victory on Ponychan. Thirty bronies from Ponychan apparently sent support letters to her in response and cheered her right up again.
The nutjobs claimed to have also written complaint letters to Hasbro, who allegedly sided with them (of course, companies say a lot of things when you complain, it doesn't always mean anything).
Someone wrote a support letter to DHX Media/Studio B, and they said they haven't heard any complaints, but they apparently stand behind Derpy 100%. As does at least one of the storyboard artists on Deviantart. I suspect anyone creatively involved with the show will support Derpy.
We Love Fine sells a bunch of Pony merchandise, and for some reason they've apparently changed Derpy's name to Ditzy, which suggests that the anti-Derpy nutjobs are going insane, screaming at anyone who will listen.
Apple took down the episode. The Hub didn't. Not sure if it means these guys got to Hasbro, or just Apple.
my friend tells me its because parents, think Derpy means retard, they have NO clue at all that it is a internet thing.
soo sad
IMO, a better idea would be to leave her as a funny background event and not bring her to the forefront again. Not that I hated the scene or anything, but do it too much and if comes across as pandering.Idea: Show Derpy in a positive light, show her having moments where she isn't an airhead.
Will we get an amazing Levar Burton cameo?