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My new MS conspiracy theory

"Why is MGS4 the bench mark for EVERY single PS3 games?

Why shouldn't it be?"

you think every PS3 game is going to be as equally as beautiful as MGS4?

I think you might have got what i was saying about the bench mark out of turn.

Everyone seems to think that every PS3 game is going to be 60fps and look amazing.
It's not going to be like that - MGS4 looks look amazing - it's good art, it's good direction, and of course its good tech - but as a benchmark that all games on average will hit? I'd very much doubt it.
 
DCharlie said:
you think every PS3 game is going to be as equally as beautiful as MGS4?

Nope, I just don't think developers should fall so far from it unless its smaller dev houses. As someone mentioned in another thread, MGS4 showed that for people that weren't impressed with most next gen titles that there wasn't this "diminshing returns" crap. Some act like high standards just started for the next gen, but it was going on this gen also. It's nothing new.
 
SolidSnakex said:
Nope, I just don't think developers should fall so far from it unless its smaller dev houses. As someone mentioned in another thread, MGS4 showed that for people that weren't impressed with most next gen titles that there wasn't this "diminshing returns" crap. Some act like high standards just started for the next gen, but it was going on this gen also. It's nothing new.

Please use your "umbrella" avatar. it rocks.
 
SolidSnakex said:
Nope, I just don't think developers should fall so far from it unless its smaller dev houses.

So you think most games from major developers this gen were similar in production quality to MGS2 and MGS3?
 
Jesiatha said:
So you think most games from major developers this gen were similar in production quality to MGS2 and MGS3?

Production values? No I doubt it. I don't think Shadow of the Colossus has the same production value sas MGS2 or MGS3 but i'm still very impressed by it. All i'm saying is the majority of games shown for next gen games at this point don't look all that next gen to me. I just think there should be alot more done next gen, obviously not everything looking like MGS4 but certainly better than alot of the stuff we've seen at this point.
 
SolidSnakex said:
All i'm saying is the majority of games shown for next gen games at this point don't look all that next gen to me. I just think there should be alot more done next gen, obviously not everything looking like MGS4 but certainly better than alot of the stuff we've seen at this point.

How could you not consider games like PGR3, GOW, Chrome Hounds, GR3, NNN not next gen ? None of those are dwarfed by MGS4.

PGR3 alone looks like polyphony CG sequences but in game.
 
Ryudo said:
How could you not consider games like PGR3, GOW, Chrome Hounds, GR3, NNN not next gen ? None of those are dwarfed by MGS4.

PGR3 alone looks like polyphony CG sequences but in game.

PGR3, GoW (despite the animation) and NN are next gen. I didn't say they weren't, i'm saying most games don't look it. And what Polyphony CG are you talking about? You brought it up before and someone asked and you never responded.

As some have said, this will be the gen where the truely elite developers seperate themself from the people that thought a certain developer was elite when it came to graphics. We're already starting to see it.
 
SolidSnakex said:
PGR3, GoW (despite the animation) and NN are next gen. I didn't say they weren't, i'm saying most games don't look it. And what Polyphony CG are you talking about? You brought it up before and someone asked and you never responded.

As some have said, this will be the gen where the truely elite developers seperate themself from the people that thought a certain developer was elite when it came to graphics. We're already starting to see it.

The CG that PD used for GT4 is what i was reffering to. Maybe i am over-reacting with the PGR3 stuff, but its out of this world bar the frame rate. I wasnt aware that someone asked me what i meant before, i havent been reading older threads much lately.
 
Ryudo said:
How could you not consider games like PGR3, GOW, Chrome Hounds, GR3, NNN not next gen ? None of those are dwarfed by MGS4.

PGR3 alone looks like polyphony CG sequences but in game.

PD has 30fps CG? ;)
 
Synth_floyd said:
News flash: As long as the game looks good and plays well, nobody gives a rat's ass about frame rate. Just to let you know.
This man speaks the truth...always never understood the whole 30vs60 thing but again what do i know.

DCX
 
Wollan said:


What an idiot that guy was.

He says that MS is just like Sony by showing video instead of gameplay, and uses CRACKDOWN as an example?

Funny how he did'nt mention PGR 3, KAMEO, GOW, or any of the other games people have actually seen and played as opposed to some Killzone and MGS 4 trailers.

Then he rips into Perfect Dark as an example of the 360s next gen graphical prowess, but yet once again failing to mention the more impressive graphical titles like PGR 3, KAMEO, or GOW.



what a complete tool.
 
Jesus fucking christ. Aren't you dorks sick of arguing about this 30/60 fps bullshit? Year after motherfuckin' year I'm reading the same stupid shit over and over again and amazingly enough it's always the same idiots in the conversation. How many times can you say the same thing? Who the fuck are you people? Rainman? YOU ARE ALL FUCKING INSANE!

*bashes head into keyboard*
 
Ryudo said:
And you tested this how ?

First I just assumed becuase its smooth but I took my camera out and and it shows 3 frames in a still which wouldnt be possible if it were 30fps. Ill try to upload a pic later.
 
Gek54 said:
First I just assumed becuase its smooth but I took my camera out and and it shows 3 frames in a still which wouldnt be possible if it were 30fps. Ill try to upload a pic later.

So if i set my camera shutter speed to the lowest value with a flash on i should get similar results ?
 
I imagine it would if it will keep the shutter open for 1/30th of a second.

edit: Or in your case 1/25th.
 
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