Khalifa Jayy
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New Z06 Vette is pushing 625+ horsepower and 635+ pound feet of torque. Good luck.
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NAIAS / Detroit Auto Show 2015
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New Z06 Vette is pushing 625+ horsepower and 635+ pound feet of torque. Good luck.
lem0n
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Im still not sure what I think of the Evantra... The suicide butterfly doors are awesome, but i generally dont like bespoke supercars that choose to use a GM LSx motor. I understand the reasoning completely, but it throws me off instantly. Styling is a bit odd, too. For bespoke supercars, Spyker got it right with the Laviolette
John Kowalski
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can you imagine downshifting from ninth to first
Khalifa Jayy
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Wanna bet on it?
GM's Magnetic Ride is seriously nothing to mess with. The last model Z06, for example, put up 7:22 on the Nurburgring (the ZR1 [638 hp, 604 lb-ft torque] put up 7:19) whereas the Ford GT put up 7:40. That's a huge difference.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
NSX is nice, but given the choice I'd much rather have a Corvette Z06. I just think it's a better looking car.
Khalifa Jayy
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My man...
the_log_ride
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Sad, but true. :|
lem0n
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Wanna bet on it?
GM's Magnetic Ride is seriously nothing to mess with. The last model Z06, for example, put up 7:22 on the Nurburgring (the ZR1 [638 hp, 604 lb-ft torque] put up 7:19) whereas the Ford GT put up 7:40. That's a huge difference.
I misread your post earlier(thought you meant the Z06 would be faster than the new GT because of its power advantage), but hell yeah im down for a friendly bet
Yeah thats a large difference in time for sure. The new GT looks like itll stick to the road a lot better now, and have more power, so im very curious to see what happens..
I'd take the GT over it any day. Rarer, and IMO a better looking car. Besides that, they aren't really direct competitors (although that damn Corvette price gets higher and higher each gen). The GT will always be a 6 figure car, with no "entry" model to speak of, unlike the Vette.
This video of the GT is much more flattering than the pictures from NAIAS. Looks less unwieldy at some of these camera angles.
Traditional sedan styling? They pretty much made it a Civic
I liked the sharper design a lot more TBH.
Traditional sedan styling? They pretty much made it a Civic
I liked the sharper design a lot more TBH.
Haha. Well, I mean like what Tesla did with the Model S. Something that looks more elegant, I'd say. I know the smaller size is for weight mostly, but I think the idea/design could be taken further.
I'm waiting to see how the 2016 Prius looks. Supposedly they made it look more sporty, although I can't imagine how.
Oh, this I gotta see!
Yeah, the new Corolla looks pretty damn ugly from the front. I was looking at a Prius for my next car, so I'm interested to see what the latest design ends up looking like.
I'll just leave this here for those that are unaware of the performance of the previous GT and somehow this one won't measure up to modern supercar standards...
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0410_exotic_coupe_comparison/
Also Top Gear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAnlMNvK8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVeGuCs1R4c
Also, a history lesson on the original GT, the GT40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykoUocmTe24
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0410_exotic_coupe_comparison/
Also Top Gear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UAnlMNvK8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVeGuCs1R4c
Also, a history lesson on the original GT, the GT40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykoUocmTe24
CharlieDigital
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BWJinxing
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The GT doesn't do anything for me. In spirit, i don't think it deserves the GT40 nameplate. I could See GT45 or something.
Rant about GT40:
I do hope it looks better in real life setting, but i do hope it sells. I am happy its getting produced but its not screaming "want" to myself, like the last gen.
I was hoping ford would break silence about the Focus RS but the GT totally caught me off guard. Aside, i can help but to think of the Titan XD and smirk, at the xD.
Rant about GT40:
From the side its pretty generic, and the lambo doors, its meh. Im seein noble and Ferrari mostly The EcoBoost V6, its just another boosted motor. The GT500 is getting a high revving V8, that would fit the soul of this car imo. I like turbos and superchargers, i'm not hating on boost for the record, the 2nd gen GT40 was supercharged. But this car doesn't strike an iconic note like the first and second gen has for myself.
I do hope it looks better in real life setting, but i do hope it sells. I am happy its getting produced but its not screaming "want" to myself, like the last gen.
I was hoping ford would break silence about the Focus RS but the GT totally caught me off guard. Aside, i can help but to think of the Titan XD and smirk, at the xD.
Those arent lambo scissor doors they are basically butterfly doors without the roof part.
As for the engine and look of this car, its aiming for a much higher target and a clientele used to certain characteristics in a hypercar. This has to go against 650S, Huracan, and 458 Italia. It has to be positively manic. The goalposts have moved.
Hnnnnngh
They had the SUV concept leak. Just what VW needs, more concepts...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Lol still waiting on the XL Sport.
I like it.There's This... thing
DirtyManos
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Oh god, dat GT.
Can't wait to drive it around
Can't wait to drive it around
in my video games ;_;
Finally, something priced for us commoners.
Roude Leiw
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Reasons the new Ford GT is the way it is:
1. V6? WTF!
Reason:
ACO (Le Mans) and IMSA (Tudor United Sportscar Championship) regulations state engine size for GTLM (class the new GT would compete in) must be no larger than 4.0L. Ford does not make any small displacement V8 and a V6 is a far better option (size, weight, efficiency, etc) for competitive racing. While it is possible to apply for an exemption to this rule, smaller engines are the way of the future for road and race cars alike.
In addition, Ford did not build this car just so it can look all pretty in somebody's garage... no... this car is going racing and was built with that purpose in mind. And that is exactly what the Ford GT has ALWAYS been about.
Finally, and begrudging to most (myself included if I am to be honest), this is a marketing decision. Ford has to sell EcoBoost to the masses and this is the most logical way to do it. With that said, I would have loved to seen a boosted version of the GT350 engine.
2. Paddle shifters
Reason:
This is a little more questionable in my book but the reasoning is simple. This car is supposed to be world beating. The standard of the world is paddle shift DCTs. Also, the tech in this car will likely be quite advanced (Ford or not) that putting a manual in this car would likely hinder it's potential performance. With that said, I will not be pleased when the Mustang goes paddle only.
3. Kinda crazy looks (lots of big gaps and vents and such)
Reason:
Again, because race car. It is not a coincidence the GT looks the way it does. The entire rear section is meant to do 2 things, create downforce (negative lift... IE the opposite of a plane) and draw air away from the engine.
Compare to a Le Mans Prototype 1 car (Toyota TS040):
1. V6? WTF!
Reason:
ACO (Le Mans) and IMSA (Tudor United Sportscar Championship) regulations state engine size for GTLM (class the new GT would compete in) must be no larger than 4.0L. Ford does not make any small displacement V8 and a V6 is a far better option (size, weight, efficiency, etc) for competitive racing. While it is possible to apply for an exemption to this rule, smaller engines are the way of the future for road and race cars alike.
In addition, Ford did not build this car just so it can look all pretty in somebody's garage... no... this car is going racing and was built with that purpose in mind. And that is exactly what the Ford GT has ALWAYS been about.
Finally, and begrudging to most (myself included if I am to be honest), this is a marketing decision. Ford has to sell EcoBoost to the masses and this is the most logical way to do it. With that said, I would have loved to seen a boosted version of the GT350 engine.
2. Paddle shifters
Reason:
This is a little more questionable in my book but the reasoning is simple. This car is supposed to be world beating. The standard of the world is paddle shift DCTs. Also, the tech in this car will likely be quite advanced (Ford or not) that putting a manual in this car would likely hinder it's potential performance. With that said, I will not be pleased when the Mustang goes paddle only.
3. Kinda crazy looks (lots of big gaps and vents and such)
Reason:
Again, because race car. It is not a coincidence the GT looks the way it does. The entire rear section is meant to do 2 things, create downforce (negative lift... IE the opposite of a plane) and draw air away from the engine.
Compare to a Le Mans Prototype 1 car (Toyota TS040):
Exactly what I was talking about previously with pontoon fender design. This car is nearly LeMans ready. Its going to be so sick on the track.
BWJinxing
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The 458: flat plane V8, like the upcoming GT350 ( Sorry, i confused the models. the GT500 gets a supercharged V8 )
The 650S: twin turbo V8
The Huracan: V10
The Pagani Huayra: Twin Turbo V12
The Lexus LFA: V10
The GT40: Twin Turbo V6
The NSX: Twin Turbo V6
The goal post has moved yes, but not so much because of the buyer taste. You have environmental concerns to factor in. Most of the people who buy these cars will be looking at power numbers and prestige.
If i had supercar money, id be looking at something with an exotic powertrain, Ive never to this day driven a Supercharged V8, Twin Turbo V8, V10, or V12. Caddy, lesser Fords, BMW, Merc will sell you a twin boosted 6 cyl for much less cash, as will Porsche for a little less. ( Assuming the goal is 150k for the new GT ).
So hopefully it will drive on rails compared to the other offerings, which still is offering levels of engineering that will surpass the GT. But one thing going for the GT will likely be reliability.
The doors, much like myself, most people will call them lambo doors, thats just how they look when open. To myself, it just feels like its been done.
The two massive exhausts on the back of the new GT are making me feel all sorts of ways while at work that I probably shouldn't be feeling. I really want to hear it rev.
I'd be surprised if the GT350R came with that front splitter. That thing would be ruined driving 1-2 weeks here in NYC.
I'd be surprised if the GT350R came with that front splitter. That thing would be ruined driving 1-2 weeks here in NYC.
Well going by the write up on Ford racing. It's designed as a limited production race ready Mustang not really a more street orientated car like the regular GT350. Although there's options for comfort to add back in stuff they took out to save weight in the first place.
Oh ok, I see what kind of car it is. Aside the splitter, I can easily see that just being a Mustang they sell in a showroom with fun bits on it. Looks quite good.
dr.rocktopus
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Only a new Ford GT would make me not care
about a new NSX.
ok, care less
ChanDangle
Member
I love it.
I assume as they work out the kinks and the current platform progresses much of the stuff that's in the higher performance G350R will work it's way to other Mustangs. Not necessarily as extreme with for example the spoiler and rear wing along with the gutted interior that are definitely more track and race oriented but some of the general aerodynamics stuff and performance things.
Least I'd hope so would be a shame to squalor development of the new platform to just limited run stuff, when you could use it across the platform like maybe on King Cobra drag pack cars or just plain old Mustangs probably.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
No new Camaro?
When are we supposed to see it?
When are we supposed to see it?
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