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Bronx-Man

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Nobody actually thinks Skyfall is a bad movie, they just think that if they hate on the most popular Bond movie they'll get internet points and be revered in GAF history. Same with the "Batman Begins is better than TDK" meme.
 

jmdajr

Member
IMDB is the worst when it comes to new films, people have zero objectivity and are largely incapable of rating a film in context. That's why shit like Inception is so high in the top 250, 14th best film ever made? Give me a break.

Overpraising new films? Maybe. But no one is doing that with Quantum or Spectre so the system works. Yeah maybe unfair to old ones, but even then Goldeneye is the highest ranked for Bronson so the list isn't exactly wrong.
 

jmdajr

Member
Nobody actually thinks Skyfall is a bad movie, they just think that if they hate on the most popular Bond movie they'll get internet points and be revered in GAF history. Same with the "Batman Begins is better than TDK" meme.
I think you are right friend.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Nobody actually thinks Skyfall is a bad movie, they just think that if they hate on the most popular Bond movie they'll get internet points and be revered in GAF history. Same with the "Batman Begins is better than TDK" meme.

Bah, hogwash!

Dark Knight got the "Rey Mysterio after Eddie died" push when Ledger died. Also, Dark Knight is boring as fuck when Ledger isn't on screen and the plot of the movie is dependent on Joker having precognition and all of the other characters failing to communicate like normal human beings. Batman Begins is like the definitive Batman movie.

Dark Knight also has the most "head up its own ass" ending in a comic book movie, ever.
 

jmdajr

Member
Bah, hogwash!

Dark Knight got the "Rey Mysterio after Eddie died" push when Ledger died. Also, Dark Knight is boring as fuck when Ledger isn't on screen and the plot of the movie is dependent on Joker having precognition and all of the other characters failing to communicate like normal human beings.

Batman Begins is like the definitive Batman movie.

Well at least you people are consistent. You find great movies boring.
 

imBask

Banned
yeah i'm with bjork, TDK is way better than Begins

I think I even liked TDKR more than Begins, but that's a stretch because i'd have to ignore a whole bunch of dumb things from that movie
 

Sephzilla

Member
Well at least you people are consistent. You find great movies boring.

Dark Knight is like the 3rd or 4th best Batman movie to hit movie theaters. Goddamnit Gordon and Batman, just blame Dent's killings on the Joker because it makes way more sense!

Begins > Mask of the Phantasm > Batman > Dark Knight
 

Cagey

Banned
Bah, hogwash!

Dark Knight got the "Rey Mysterio after Eddie died" push when Ledger died. Also, Dark Knight is boring as fuck when Ledger isn't on screen and the plot of the movie is dependent on Joker having precognition and all of the other characters failing to communicate like normal human beings. Batman Begins is like the definitive Batman movie.

Dark Knight also has the most "head up its own ass" ending in a comic book movie, ever.

Baleman Begins is on par with Open Water in my book, titled "I want my 90 minutes back."

Both movies were trash, so you're both right!

My wife and I took turns drifting asleep in the theater during The Dark Knight.
 

bjork

Member
yeah i'm with bjork, TDK is way better than Begins

I think I even liked TDKR more than Begins, but that's a stretch because i'd have to ignore a whole bunch of dumb things from that movie

Whoa, fella. I never watched TDK. Begins was already too much, I didn't need to go back for more. Not even the "Heath Ledger used this one Tom Waits interview as reference for how to play his character" could get me to watch it.
 

imBask

Banned
Whoa, fella. I never watched TDK. Begins was already too much, I didn't need to go back for more. Not even the "Heath Ledger used this one Tom Waits interview as reference for how to play his character" could get me to watch it.

hey i'm strawmaning you into my argument and you don't have a thing to say about it pal
 

Hex

Banned
Brosnan's Bond was a joke character, he's on par with Clooney's batman

or with Daniel Bryan as a WWE champ

...I ...agree with imbask?
Can not stand Brosnan as Bond and definitely not take him seriously. he was great as the psuedo Bond on tv in his Remington Steele days though.

Bah, hogwash!

Dark Knight got the "Rey Mysterio after Eddie died" push when Ledger died. Also, Dark Knight is boring as fuck when Ledger isn't on screen and the plot of the movie is dependent on Joker having precognition and all of the other characters failing to communicate like normal human beings. Batman Begins is like the definitive Batman movie.

Dark Knight also has the most "head up its own ass" ending in a comic book movie, ever.

And...I agree with ...wtf?
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Wow, so now Kotaro Suzuki's quitting AJPW. I feel bad for Akiyama, he's trying to rebuild but the ex-NOAH guys are abandoning him. Have to wonder if there's some backstage or financial stuff involved, but however you cut it, losing Shiozaki and losing Suzuki in a few short months isn't good.

Go and Kotaro are good buddies going all the way back to NOAH. So it was likely more that than politics.
 

jmdajr

Member
I remember how much Tomorrow Never Dies left me hanging after how great Golden Eye was. And then...it got worse.

I thought Christmas only comes once a year
 

bjork

Member
I just realized that people said he borrowed from Tom Waits for TDK, but then Heath Ledger's final role was in Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus and Tom Waits was also in that. I wonder if it ever came up in conversation.
 

Sephzilla

Member
The Dark Knight is great until the big Dent/Joker/Batman chase sequence, that's when the movie totally loses me because the script takes a giant shit on itself. Most of Joker's plan is dependent on him knowing shit that he in no fucking way can possibly predict and having literally every little thing go perfectly right for him. Plus I retroactively hate it because it created the "villain getting captured as part of his plan" trope that fucking everything uses now.

I remember how much Tomorrow Never Dies left me hanging after how great Golden Eye was. And then...it got worse.

I thought Christmas only comes once a year

I will never not laugh at that line

TDKR is what a bad movie looks like. TDK is at the very least decent.

TDKR is bad in a depressing way. The script is just so halfassed that it's obvious Nolan didn't give a shit anymore after Ledger died.
 

jmdajr

Member
The Dark Knight is great until the big Dent/Joker/Batman chase sequence, that's when the movie totally loses me because the script takes a giant shit on itself. Most of Joker's plan is dependent on him knowing shit that he in no fucking way can possibly predict and having literally every little thing go perfectly right for him. Plus I retroactively hate it because it created the "villain getting captured as part of his plan" trope that fucking everything uses now.

I'm pretty sure that has happened many times before. And that's ok.
 
The Dark Knight, the 4th best film of all time according to IMDB users. A decade from now, if it's still in the top 50 I'll give everyone reading this a dollar.

Go and Kotaro are good buddies going all the way back to NOAH. So it was likely more that than politics.

Just seems strange that Kotaro wouldn't have announced he was leaving when Go did back in September, if that's the case.
 

Ithil

Member
Come on man. That doesn't even count.


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*EHHHH* Wrong!
 
You nerds need to watch Goldeneye again. I enjoyed the movie and still do but watching it now, it hasn't aged very well and comes off extremely cheesy at points. I guess you can really say that about all Bond movies though.
 

DMczaf

Member
If anything, MovieGAF and gaming side are the ones that should be banned from those opinions. They're all a bunch of marks that think they're smarks.

Nah.

We watch wrasslin writing every week of our lives, and people here still go "Casino Royale is complete shit!" "Batman Begins is complete shit!" "The Dark Knight is complete shit!" "Skyfall is complete shit!"

I know what complete shit is. I've been watching it every week for the last 21 years of my life. Even though I did not like Spectre, I would not call it trash because I've been living trash for 21 years!

Fuck wrasslin. Can't wait to watch Raw tonight. FML.
 

Cagey

Banned
You nerds need to watch Goldeneye again. I enjoyed the movie and still do but watching it now, it hasn't aged very well and comes off extremely cheesy at points. I guess you can really say that about all Bond movies though.

I watched it last weekend, fit-friend. The movie is delightful.
 

Sephzilla

Member
New Roman Reigns shirt would be great, but they had to put the quote on the back.

Jesus Christ, how many bad catch phrases does Roman get?

You nerds need to watch Goldeneye again. I enjoyed the movie and still do but watching it now, it hasn't aged very well and comes off extremely cheesy at points. I guess you can really say that about all Bond movies though.

Goldeneye is an extremely dated movie now, but I kind of think that adds to it's charm
 

jmdajr

Member
If anything, MovieGAF and gaming side are the ones that should be banned from those opinions. They're all a bunch of marks that think they're smarks.

I never go into Movie threads because without a doubt, someone is going to hate something I liked recently. Always.

The other way doesn't happen too much. If I end up not liking something, chances are there isn't much fan fair.
 
You nerds need to watch Goldeneye again. I enjoyed the movie and still do but watching it now, it hasn't aged very well and comes off extremely cheesy at points. I guess you can really say that about all Bond movies though.

That's what I'm saying, Bond movies are a product of the era they were created in - you can't go back and trying to do so never works out well. At least Casino Royale tried something markedly different, even if I didn't enjoy the movie as much as others.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Bah, hogwash!

Dark Knight got the "Rey Mysterio after Eddie died" push when Ledger died. Also, Dark Knight is boring as fuck when Ledger isn't on screen and the plot of the movie is dependent on Joker having precognition and all of the other characters failing to communicate like normal human beings. Batman Begins is like the definitive Batman movie.

Dark Knight also has the most "head up its own ass" ending in a comic book movie, ever.

There's nothing wrong with a performance carrying the film. Bret carried Austin to the greatest match in the history of our sport. Ledger carried that film to absolute GREATNESS. Dark Knight is still the GOAT comic book movie
alongside Spider-Man 2

You nerds need to watch Goldeneye again. I enjoyed the movie and still do but watching it now, it hasn't aged very well and comes off extremely cheesy at points. I guess you can really say that about all Bond movies though.

Cheese and Bond go together like peanut butter and jelly. I wouldn't want it any other way.

For England, James?
 

jmdajr

Member
Nah.

We watch wrasslin writing every week of our lives, and people here still go "Casino Royale is complete shit!" "Batman Begins is complete shit!" "The Dark Knight is complete shit!" "Skyfall is complete shit!"

I know what complete shit is. I've been watching it every week for the last 21 years of my life. Even though I did not like Spectre, I would not call it trash because I've been living trash for 21 years!

Fuck wrasslin. Can't wait to watch Raw tonight. FML.

Truth Bombs.
 

Heel

Member
Nah.

We watch wrasslin writing every week of our lives, and people here still go "Casino Royale is complete shit!" "Batman Begins is complete shit!" "The Dark Knight is complete shit!" "Skyfall is complete shit!"

I know what complete shit is. I've been watching it every week for the last 21 years of my life. Even though I did not like Spectre, I would not call it trash because I've been living trash for 21 years!

Fuck wrasslin. Can't wait to watch Raw tonight. FML.

No lies detected, except for that watching RAW part.
 
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