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Naughty Dog is laying off contract developers, asking them to keep it quiet. TLOU Online "is basically on ice at this point"
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Probably because it didn't have bloat. How hard would it be for them to improve on Factions? It was one of the best online modes for PS4.It's dead the moment Bungie said it was not good.
People just have Hopium syndrome
Wastelander92
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I know they want dat Fortnite money lol.
FalsettoVibe
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Not really sure why this deserved attention. Games get cancelled. Contractors get let go. What am I missing here....
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dotnotbot
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Still faster than some games that were announced in 2020
Zok310
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Im not worried about ND, most devs wont achieve what ND have, i am worried about SIE thinking ND is a studio that can handle and maintain a GAAS ip.
That dont mean i think sie forced them to make it, i just think that Bungie was brought in too late in development to have an impact on ND gaas game and now its just too late.
Cancel the shit, and next time have Bungie involved from day 1 on the next gaas.
That dont mean i think sie forced them to make it, i just think that Bungie was brought in too late in development to have an impact on ND gaas game and now its just too late.
Cancel the shit, and next time have Bungie involved from day 1 on the next gaas.
VulcanRaven
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Maybe just make the multiplayer free to play or include it to The Last of Us 3.
Kenneth Haight
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Zombie9ers
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Contractors very rarely get any severance - as they are not full-time employees. This is across all industries, not just video game companies.
Topher
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Could have made another spin-off game like Uncharted: Last Legacy with these resources. People keep giving me shit for not liking this direction. Yeah....about that.
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CJ_75
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If I was Sony, I would merge Naughty Dog with Insomniac.
I will remain a huge fan of Naughty Dog but the studio has lost some of its appeal. The studio looked like there were 2 captains on a steerless ship and one of the captains, Evan Wells, has just retired.
I would welcome a new Uncharted or TLOU game but I just want something fresh from them.
I will remain a huge fan of Naughty Dog but the studio has lost some of its appeal. The studio looked like there were 2 captains on a steerless ship and one of the captains, Evan Wells, has just retired.
I would welcome a new Uncharted or TLOU game but I just want something fresh from them.
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sloppyjoe_gamer
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Waste of time.....cancel it.
sainraja
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I was thinking the same thing, but I don't think contractors can get a severance (but it is up to the company really), can they? Otherwise, why wouldn't they just bring them on full-time when originally hired?
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sloppyjoe_gamer
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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FTFY -- RIP ND's GaaS ambitions. I'd say good riddance (ofc not to the devs & qa who lost their jobs) and stick to what they do best -- great singleplayer experiences!
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Roman Empire
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How much resources have been spent on this? It has been so many years and there is nothing they can show? I know it's said the project was going all well until Bungie gave their input about the live-service aspect, especially monetization, but can't shake the feeling there is more to it and ND went back to the drawing board.
nowhat
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Jack and Dexter, duh, don't you know your ND history?
diffusionx
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Naughty Dog and Druckmann spent a decade getting high off their farts and this is a much needed reality check.
sainraja
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They were also scrutinized heavily during the production of TLOU: P2 because of "crunch" so... I wonder if that also had an affect. Not saying "crunch" is good or bad but that type of thing will have an influence in how they work going forward.
Hmm, not sure about it being posted before, but if so, it does look like it.
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Bernardougf
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And thats why everything is vaporware until it is not ... fanboys will never learn
This mp/gaas race is going to fuck it all up for the next few years... time for the deniers to wake up and take the hints
This mp/gaas race is going to fuck it all up for the next few years... time for the deniers to wake up and take the hints
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tmlDan
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When they first announced it being delayed, Jason Schreier's article said the same thing that it is being revamped and people have been moved off the project
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Good eye, noticed that as well. The only news here is about these contractors being let go.
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The main problem in these cases of mismanagement is not if a game is delayed or canceled, it is the time lost at a time when a AAA+ game requires so much development time (~5 years)
Now it can be said that ND or Sony was wrong with the GaaS bet for a Studio that is everything for SP games.
Now it can be said that ND or Sony was wrong with the GaaS bet for a Studio that is everything for SP games.
Killjoy-NL
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Lol overreacting much?
Magic Carpet
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Pivot and release a cellphone mini game like Fallout Shelter or That new Castles.
HTK
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I was looking forward to Factions as I am a huge fan of the original Factions.
At first I thought they would do what they did before but with better and tighter gameplay and more maps and some of the new things from TLOU2 included. Then they delayed because they had higher ambitions and then rumors were Battle Royale. I was excited for this because I'm a huge fan of the Battle Royale genre but also TLOU universe is perfect for it. Toolboxes to open and loot items, crafting etc... it all made perfect sense and it probably had a lot of potential.
Then rumors were about Extraction type genre...which I'm not a fan of at all.
I'm still hopeful but they probably lost their way with this one without proper direction not because it's a "GaaS" game.
At first I thought they would do what they did before but with better and tighter gameplay and more maps and some of the new things from TLOU2 included. Then they delayed because they had higher ambitions and then rumors were Battle Royale. I was excited for this because I'm a huge fan of the Battle Royale genre but also TLOU universe is perfect for it. Toolboxes to open and loot items, crafting etc... it all made perfect sense and it probably had a lot of potential.
Then rumors were about Extraction type genre...which I'm not a fan of at all.
I'm still hopeful but they probably lost their way with this one without proper direction not because it's a "GaaS" game.
StreetsofBeige
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Hey Bungie, evaluate internal GAAS game A..... "it sucks"
Hey Bungie, evaluate internal GAAS game B..... "it sucks"
Hey Bungie, evaluate internal GAAS game C..... "it sucks"
Hey Bungie, how's Destiny 3 coming along?..... "it's awesome!"
Who knew Bungie were going to be overseers of all Sony GAAS games (even ND's game).
Thirty7ven
Banned
It’s cancelled or at best being released as a MP mode in TLOU3.
Agree that the idea these studios can maintain a successful gaas IP and keep working on other big projects sounds pie in the sky. Respawn probably the only one doing it?
Gambit2483
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Exactly. Unless they signed an NDA they can talk all they want. Anonymously of course.
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GrayChild
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Thirty7ven
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Miles was such a huge success too, it’s crazy they didn’t pursue that direction.
TheInfamousKira
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Oh no, The Rest of The Last of Us is gonnneee
Toots
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So we won't have a new naughty dog game on PS5...
It's sad but as long as we collectively agree it's all druckmann fault and we should shave his tic tac shaped head and tar and feather him, i think the outcome is a net positive.
Edit : we should also force him to write a new ip alone without any help just to spite him.
It's sad but as long as we collectively agree it's all druckmann fault and we should shave his tic tac shaped head and tar and feather him, i think the outcome is a net positive.
Edit : we should also force him to write a new ip alone without any help just to spite him.
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Roni
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Factions 2, or whatever it will end up being called, has been starting and stopping since before TLOU2 came out. Recently, we heard Sony was investing deeply in GaaS.
One would assume this title would be close to release, not being put on ice.
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