panthapanda
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The Hawks will take Carroll back. But we need Korver back from the Cavs too
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NBA 2016-2017 Season |OT| What do the Liberty Bell and Ben Simmons have in Common?
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The Hawks will take Carroll back. But we need Korver back from the Cavs too
Jack The Nipper
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTG4rMvqSLQ
sure some of you seen it, maybe was talked about? dunno
Sort of thought it was an interesting interview with Kerr and player's that wanted to play or not
Seems Kawhi wasn't too happy with the style of play lol (agree with him for sure)
sure some of you seen it, maybe was talked about? dunno
Sort of thought it was an interesting interview with Kerr and player's that wanted to play or not
Seems Kawhi wasn't too happy with the style of play lol (agree with him for sure)
Cornbread78
Member
Haven't stopped by all season, lol. I'm just hoping Ainge finally does SOMETHING to get Isiah some star help. Just another big, goofy white center is not gonna cut it, lol.
C'Mon Danny, time to party.
C'Mon Danny, time to party.
LyleLanley
Banned
P.J. Tucker's a star right?
He got injured and just got back a few weeks ago.
Not to say he was going to destroy out there if he was healthy but not like we can say much when the dude has been injured the whole season.
Hell going by all the reports that came out over the summer he basically was the backup to the backup to the backup plan.
In the league? Really?
Cornbread78
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LyleLanley
Banned
From what I've been seeing I wouldn't count on Bogut going to the C's.
BlackGhost
Banned
He's going to go to the C. The Cav
Martylepiaf
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Not the worst, but $14M/y until 2019 for someone who can't score or defend well and is getting worse every year is way too much.
LyleLanley
Banned
Wow! Ainge did it again!
BlackGhost
Banned
Fuck yeah, man this is dope.
Cornbread78
Member
Then they will just go all-in on Pheonix and grab Tucker and Chandler... (I actually like this better if Chandler has anything left to give and the Suns will let go)
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I can't tell which one is more happy on that cousins photo
That contract is pretty good, just wait until this summer and the next to see how much below average players will be getting paid. Demarre's contact will look like a steal.
Hell, look at Chandler Parsons' contract.
Martylepiaf
Member
The problem is they have to extend both Lowry and Ibaka this summer, and don't have much space left
Cornbread78
Member
Oh please No.
I think Bradley and Crowder (whichever s left, if either) would both clothesline him the first time he let a player run right past him because he didn't want to challenge a drive and play D. If not those two then Smart would do the honors...
Here is my wish list that could be done, since I'm still holding out that little tiny sliver of hope that Danny
- Trade the Memphis pick and 2 second round picks for Noel (not sure on player to be added)
- Trade this year's Brooklyn pick, J Brown, A. Johnson with Pacers for P George. I wish we could give them Zeller and his 8million back though.
Cornbread78
Member
Neither one of those is remotely enough for those players, I suspect.
Also, Zeller's contract isn't a big deal. It's non-guaranteed next year, and I think it's nearly certain he'll be waived in the summer, unless somehow the Celtics are operating as an over the cap team at that point in which case it makes sense to retain him.
I'm really not expecting much from the Celts today except smaller trade or two for wing depth and rebounding, and I'm totally fine with that. In fact I think today will be pretty underwhelming. I don't think any teams other than the Warriors, Cavs, and Spurs truly believe they have a good shot at a title.
Also, other than Twitter, what news/rumors sites do people follow? HoopsHype is really slacking - updating every 2 hours the day of the trade deadline is not sufficient.
IT is our stopper.
Cornbread78
Member
I hear you, I'm not expecting much either, which is unfortunate, and makes me want to cry again watching them draft 5 more players next year that won't touch the court very often.
They need a big man that can hit the boards more than anything, which is why Noel makes sense (not Okafor, which the 76's are trying to give away at this point)
Thank goodness Zeller is almost as good as gone soon. The Celts have the flexibility to sign another max player in the off season and give IT a raise if they do it right.
As for new sites, I use Google mostly. This way I can see stuff from everywhere at once, but they are mostly the same as everyone else from CBS Sports, Bleacher Report, SBNation, etc.
Also, the first time I've seen it, but itlooks like he pretty up to date (without insider info) is HoopsRumors
Stopper? Nah, he is the catalyst!
LyleLanley
Banned
No way Ainge takes on Chandler's contract.
Cornbread78
Member
Please no, no, no, no.... You take that back, take it back now!
He makes Johnson money, lol. (no sure on years though)
LyleLanley
Banned
Two more years after this, which ruins Ainge's chance at a big free agent this summer.
It's not a solution this year, but Zizic is absolutely tearing up one of the best leagues in Europe.
I think he's part of their long-term big outlook, which is why I'm not surprised if they only make a smaller move.
The point about them literally not having enough space for these players is legit though.
Edit: No idea how to post images apparently, but here's the tweet saying Zizic grades out as the 9th best player in the 2017 class.
Does not compute. Not even expiring although i don't know all their money figures.. Amir and Zeller def off the books. Probably KO replacement. Some dumb team will pay him. Horford hates center but that is alot of scoring . Still no rebounding and D
Paul George is not going to commit to the team that trades for him. He wants to resign with the Pacers or go to the Lakers.
https://twitter.com/chrisbhaynes/status/834787081088036864
https://twitter.com/chrisbhaynes/status/834787081088036864
LyleLanley
Banned
I feel like we've heard that before.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Don't cave, Magic
Ingram, D'Angelo, Calderon + Houston Pick for George.
I would that in a heartbeat. I'm not believing George is just going to sign with the Lakers in 2018. The only problem is that trade would make the Lakers win games which isn't a great plan right now.
George + Randle + one of the point guards in the draft with a top 3 pick would be a much better foundation that what they have now.
C'mon Larry Legend. Stop this trade rumors for PG13.
Not buying that. Like Cousins, he doesn't want to willingly give away the chance at that $200M supermax, understandably. I don't know why he would want to go play for that Lakers team at that point of his career for significantly less money.
Ninja Scooter
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Randle is not that good. He's nice, but he's not a cornerstone piece. I am not a fan of gutting all your assets for one guy, especially not when we are a terrible team already. All that does is put as back to square one, wasting 1-2 years of George's prime while you try and get back in contention. Did Melo to NY teach you nothing?
Do you think Ingram and D'Angelo are cornerstone pieces?
Quite frankly I prefer to have a guaranteed superstar than someone that potentially can become one which is what the Lakers are trying to produce with their picks. I look at their young players and I don't see any consistency or production that indicates anyone of them is going to develop into a superstar (jury still out on Ingram but...). And you need one of those to compete don't you agree?
The Melo story to NY could be a perfect analogy but at the same time it wasn't because of that trade that Amare's knees quit on him. But at least that trade made the team enticing to free agents again, that's why they made that playoff run in 2012 or 2013 after they signed Tyson Chandler. Of course the Lakers would be better if they can just keep the assets and sign George in 2018 but those rumors almost never end up being true. Maybe he gets traded somewhere else like the Celtics and starts enjoying playing in a winning environment that he would forget about the Lakers in a couple of months.
Ninja Scooter
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I think Ingram and Russell have higher potential ceilings than Randle. I like Julius, he plays hard, but he's undersized and can't shoot. A PF in 2017 that can't shoot and spread the floor is bench big on a good team. I'd love a guaranteed super star too, but gutting your team to get one is not a good plan. Paul George is great, but he's not LeBron, or even KD. He's not an automatic 50 wins even if you surround him with scrubs. He needs solid players around him, and trading for him at age 26/27 and then having to start the process of putting those solid players around him from scratch is counter productive. We'd basically become the Pacers (actually worse since Myles Turner is substantially better than Julius Randle) for the next 1-3 years, and the Pacers are trying to trade PG in the first place, because that's not an enviable position to be in. Maybe George comes in FA, maybe he doesn't, but I'd rather keep my options open than go all in on a guy that may or may not be a "best player on a champion" level superstar.
Cornbread78
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I'm not being a productive employee today when I'm scrolling through news tickers every 2 mins, lol.
True enough. They have to give IT a raise soon as well.
meehh, not sure how I feel about that. I mean, I'd be all for it if it ends up panning out, but they need low-post help now.
Either way, it's GS's championship to lose this year, so.... Don't do anything really stupid to destroy the future, but I'd love the chance to go head-to-head with Cleveland with a chance to get swept by GS in the finals, lol
True enough. They have to give IT a raise soon as well.
It's not a solution this year, but Zizic is absolutely tearing up one of the best leagues in Europe.
I think he's part of their long-term big outlook, which is why I'm not surprised if they only make a smaller move.
The point about them literally not having enough space for these players is legit though.
Edit: No idea how to post images apparently, but here's the tweet saying Zizic grades out as the 9th best player in the 2017 class.
meehh, not sure how I feel about that. I mean, I'd be all for it if it ends up panning out, but they need low-post help now.
Either way, it's GS's championship to lose this year, so.... Don't do anything really stupid to destroy the future, but I'd love the chance to go head-to-head with Cleveland with a chance to get swept by GS in the finals, lol
Bradley contract alone is worth more than Gallo.. And if you think Bradley is always hurt..
LyleLanley
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Bread, no.
RiggityRice
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Hearing Nick Young, Jose Calderon for Aaron Affalo and a 2nd round pick is possible.