Hahah man idk this is wacky.
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Hahah man idk this is wacky.
LMA is arguably better than Kawhi 🤔
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LMA> Kawhi, he was being serious.
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nogoodnamesleft
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Even though I disagree with him I could kind of see some points SOME points but then the LMA over Leonard comment just done it for me. I'd trade LMA right now for a second round pick tbh. Dude has been a bust for us considering how good he was for the blazers.
No. He isn't. At all. Kawhi is a top 4 NBA player, Aldridge rn is...top 30?
Aldridge got the super dope running an offense skill moves.
No no, here you are factually incorrect. Like your opinion is factually wrong.
nogoodnamesleft
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Yep sadly our offence is like 90% Leonard ISOball. Sad coming from the older teams we ran.
It's definitely the system, the players most people think are bad are far from it.
I loved when all time greats like Duncan , shaq, bill Russel , etc, etc all ran there offense when they were winning chips. Larry Bird was a beast at running his. Micheal Jordan was the best point guard ever
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Dude.
You realize.
That even though the league is guard heavy.
Running an offense isn't the most valuable thing.
And the Spurs move the ball around in general.
And if the Spurs can't get a shot, Leonard has to ISO his way to scoring.
And that unlike most of the other stars, Leonard has a crazy value on defense.
And that there's more to this game that running an offense, and there have been stars that play more off-ball than on it (see, for example, Lebron in Miami).
Just stop.
They didn't ask for best point-guard/forward/center superstar.
Did Tim Duncan run the Spurs offense? Was he not a superstar?
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Also, holy fuck poor Jazz. Gobert was their best player, his advanced metrics showed him to be a ridiculous player (only Harden beats him in win shares, for example). He was the only member of their planned starting 5 + 6th man that was consistently healthy. The ONLY one.
What the fuck man.
What the fuck man.
Any update on his injury?
They're saying it's a left knee sprain.
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Imagine if the Jazz had their best player?
How valuable is being an elite defender when a team doesn't have an elite scorer to defend?
How valuable is being an elite passer/floor general when you have players who can't create their own shots?
I got sucked into the argument and I'll back out after this, but just my opinion.
How valuable is being an elite passer/floor general when you have players who can't create their own shots?
I got sucked into the argument and I'll back out after this, but just my opinion.
Kawhi isn't that good.
Even folks on coli don't say such trash shitAldridge over Kawhi?
You wanna know what the Spurs offense has been for two season? Move the ball and give it to Kawhi.
You wanna know who cwn shut down any wing or guard? Kawhi. That's valuable regardless if the person is elite or not.
You wanna know who was a top 10 scorer in the league? Kawhi
You got sucked into an argument because using your fuckng eyes should tell you how stupid you're being. He's a top 4/top 7 NBA player at the VERY least and yes, he's that damn good
I'm not sure if you know what "not that good" means
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YOU said he was a top 7 player. How does that not qualify?
Gotdatmoney
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I can't believe we out here saying Kawhi is barely top 7 in the league. That isn't even joke territory. Its just flat out stupid. I know this is a guard driven league but having a 1/combo guard skill set is not the defining traits that make players top in the league.
I did say I could list more.
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Best not to dig this hole any deeper.
Being an elite defender doesn't make you a top player in the league either.
Alright now I'm done.
Being an elite defender, plus a fantastic scorer, plus a wonderful ball handlet might though.
BlackNMild2k1
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sorry to break up the discussion on how Kawhi is not "that" good, but....
Clips may have caught a lucky break in Gobert spraining his knee 17 seconds into the game, but it's not looking like they are determined to take advantage of that in the first half.
tie game at the half... smh Clippers.
on the plus side, if the Jazz win the series and human rim protection is out for the playoffs, the Warriors will feast... assuming a quick resolution to Rnd1 for the Dubs against Portland of course.
Clips may have caught a lucky break in Gobert spraining his knee 17 seconds into the game, but it's not looking like they are determined to take advantage of that in the first half.
tie game at the half... smh Clippers.
on the plus side, if the Jazz win the series and human rim protection is out for the playoffs, the Warriors will feast... assuming a quick resolution to Rnd1 for the Dubs against Portland of course.
Gotdatmoney
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If that was all Kawhi did that may be valid.
Because even facing the tough setback of the Jazz losing their best player, the Clippers rise to the occasion to try and choke in the playoffs.
We've been saying this for 5 years
JetBlackPanda
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Seeing Gobert go down in the first 17 seconds was one of the worst sports moments I've had since John Paxson burried a three to defeat the suns in 93.
Yes it does, Draymond Green is most certainly a top player in the league just for his defense and he's like the main reason why Golden State is probably going to win the NBA finals this year.
That's why it annoys me when people bring up Aldridge's averages. He isn't a scrub and no one serious is saying that. He's the clear 2nd offensive option on the Spurs, especially with the number of shots the team/Pop hands him, and he's generally a clear positive on defense but dude has serious stretches where he'll miss all of his long 2s and be the softest big man on the court like during the rodeo road trip and that disaster of a game against Memphis/Vince Carter this year. They bring up his averages while ignoring that 1/3rd of his games have him shooting like less than 40% on goddamn 2s.
They've never been able to find a small forward and their bench is always thin.
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Round 2 begins.
I will gladly bite who do you think is winning this year?
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even if you dont think draymond is a top player in general
you do realize how enormous the talent is that surrounds him?
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