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NBA 2017 Playoffs |OT| WE DID IT
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I don't see your point. They can still get fouled in transition.
GS regularly locks in on defense as the game progresses. They're usually pretty sloppy starting out.
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Curry gets the 42nd most fouls called in his favor in the NBA, thats hardly nothing. Besides Durant is 22nd and refs need to even those foul numbers.
Of the players with the most fouls drawn per game this season, the top 7 were all the solo star on their team for most of the season
1. Boogie 8.2
2. Embiid 7.1
3. Anthony Davis 6.9
4. Russell Westbrook 6.7
5. Jimmy Butler 6.5
6. Isiah Thomas 6.3
7. James Harden 6.2
8. Blake Griffin 6.0
9. Lebron James 5.9
10.Giannis Antetokounmpo 5.9
Kevin Durant 4.6 + Stephen Curry 3.5 = 8.1 so Golden State is getting about their fair share of foul calls.
In General bigs draw more fouls then Guards.
Of the players with the most fouls drawn per game this season, the top 7 were all the solo star on their team for most of the season
1. Boogie 8.2
2. Embiid 7.1
3. Anthony Davis 6.9
4. Russell Westbrook 6.7
5. Jimmy Butler 6.5
6. Isiah Thomas 6.3
7. James Harden 6.2
8. Blake Griffin 6.0
9. Lebron James 5.9
10.Giannis Antetokounmpo 5.9
Kevin Durant 4.6 + Stephen Curry 3.5 = 8.1 so Golden State is getting about their fair share of foul calls.
In General bigs draw more fouls then Guards.
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BlackNMild2k1
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LOL @ being stricltly a jump shooting team that never attacks the paint.
LOL at Draymond not even getting a mention as an elite defender, and one that "threatens the safety of the officials" and constantly kicking other players.
LOL@ GSW manipulating refereeing to their favor.
Durant, Dray, Javale, Iggy & Curry all constantly take it inside, in the paint, to the rim.
If Curry could get the "touch" fouls that Harden got, he would have on average an additional 4-10 points per game off the &1's & actually attempted to be made missed shots.
Draymond is a clutch defender often making stops when extremely critical. And likely the #1/#2 contender for that DPOY award, so I not even sure how he is left out of anyone's conversation on the subject.
and the Warriors are constantly snubbed on calls, outside of Durant, on all sorts of plays*.
The sheer amount of uncalled fouls on Curry at the 3pt line is baffling though. But honestly, it's part of what makes them so fun to watch. They don't over sell the foul with a fake shot attempt, they instead power though and often make the shot anyway, never counting on the foul to be called because 90% of the time it's not.
*not saying other teams don't have missed calls, but Harden gets benefit of the doubt on obvious foul seeking "non-calls". Lebron gets all sorts of non-calls, while watching him run over people. Curry is the biggest superstar to not get superstar calls, as if they dare him to just win anyway.
LOL at Draymond not even getting a mention as an elite defender, and one that "threatens the safety of the officials" and constantly kicking other players.
LOL@ GSW manipulating refereeing to their favor.
Durant, Dray, Javale, Iggy & Curry all constantly take it inside, in the paint, to the rim.
If Curry could get the "touch" fouls that Harden got, he would have on average an additional 4-10 points per game off the &1's & actually attempted to be made missed shots.
Draymond is a clutch defender often making stops when extremely critical. And likely the #1/#2 contender for that DPOY award, so I not even sure how he is left out of anyone's conversation on the subject.
and the Warriors are constantly snubbed on calls, outside of Durant, on all sorts of plays*.
The sheer amount of uncalled fouls on Curry at the 3pt line is baffling though. But honestly, it's part of what makes them so fun to watch. They don't over sell the foul with a fake shot attempt, they instead power though and often make the shot anyway, never counting on the foul to be called because 90% of the time it's not.
*not saying other teams don't have missed calls, but Harden gets benefit of the doubt on obvious foul seeking "non-calls". Lebron gets all sorts of non-calls, while watching him run over people. Curry is the biggest superstar to not get superstar calls, as if they dare him to just win anyway.
The Wolves desperately need a primary ballhandler. Lavine, Wiggins and KAT all play tremendously well without the ball in their hands.
Wolves are probably going to end up with another non-shooting guard as well. Wonder if they'd be interested in trading Lavine to move up in the draft
Wolves are probably going to end up with another non-shooting guard as well. Wonder if they'd be interested in trading Lavine to move up in the draft
I am. Watched the Hawks battle from over 10 back to take the lead.
darkwing-buck
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I miss Prime Dwight.
Rubio is our primary ballhandler as he should be until we find a a PG who can shoot consistently and make good decisions
I say trade Lavine because he really isn't good offball and can't play defense at all plus it'll move Wiggins to his natural position of SG
Tell Curry to stop shooting so many 3s and it'll probably happen. Majority of Harden's fouls are legitmate fouls, it's just a cheap tactic.
I miss Prime Dwight.
He can probably still do most of this stuff, even if he did lose some athleticism.
LyleLanley
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Can't believe IT is actually going to play tonight.
The Wolves won 3 more games then the Sixers. They had the same record as the Knicks. Rubio is not a good enough PG to start in the league unless he can realistically shoot the ball well.
True Savior
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How was that not a foul? Jumpball lmao. Either the ref is blind or is just shit-refereeing on purpose.
I miss Prime Dwight.
Flash in the Pan...
I really thought Dwight was going to be the next Shaq. It felt so right especially that '09 year. Seeing him become a bit of a journeyman hurts.
Rubio is a fantastic defender, passer, and actually became a good shooter post ASB
He is the starting PG for the future unless we could draft someone good.
Like say Kris Dunn.
I said good, that was a giant miss as of now
It was at the time too
Minny should have drafted Poeltl to sure up their interior defense and used the extra guard minutes to develop Tyus Jones
Still may as well try and develop Dunn.
If Minny could find a good defensive C that's going to be a good compliment to KAT it might be worth trading down/out of the draft.
More like Marcus Burnett. Lowry had some game
No, we need a PF who can space the floor and play defense who can start and move Dieng down to the bench.
LegendofDragoonLives
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jd locking down for worst posts in the topic already lol.. Trying to argue 42 is hardly nothing, just cringe. Why don't you list previous years when KD wasn't on the team dude, or does that ruin your narrative a little too much?
Wall is a beast. Fucking insulting when I heard early into this season that Scrubly was the best PG in the East.
Wall is a beast. Fucking insulting when I heard early into this season that Scrubly was the best PG in the East.
That PF is KAT. Dude is 6'11 and played PF in College. He's more of a part time C then a full time defensive C. Better to grab a big boddied 7fter if you can find one.
Because i am watching Wiz v Hawks and closed the browser tab. You can look it up if you like.
Edit: Curry was 22nd last season and averaged 4.5 fouls drawn per game.below is the link. Type up more details yourself if you are interested.
http://stats.nba.com/players/misc/#!?sort=PFD&dir=-1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular Season
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So last year Curry averaged 4.5FDpG. This year with KD. 3.5.
Last year Draymond Green averaged 3.8 Fouls drawn per game. This year 2.9
Would you really say this year Curry and Green have gotten less deserving of almost 2 fouls calls per game? Or are Referees just distributing those calls to Durant. I would argue the second point personally.
Edit warriors 3 best players at drawing fts per game
2017 durant 4.5 curry 3.5 green 2.9 (10.9)
2016 curry 4.5 green 3.8 ezili 2.4 (10.7)
2015 curry 3.7 green 2.6 klay 2.5 (8.8) champs
2014 curry 4.0 lee 3.1 O Neal 2.8 (9.9)
LegendofDragoonLives
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When you write up some bullshit narrative, the onus is on you to provide the evidence not someone else. And for a dude has the 2nd best handles in the game who shoots only 3 shots less than last year, him being 42nd is not as bad as it looks when he has KD is literally nonsensical. He shoots 3 shots less, that's the stat that matters.
panthapanda
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I made the right decision to sleep through this game. Lol.
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