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NBC News: U.S. May Launch Strike If North Korea Reaches For Nuclear Trigger

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Curler

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chadskin said:
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Simpsons works for everything...
 
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rocketskates

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VaultBoy101 said:
PSA: when posting in a live viewing thread like this one, comments like "Wow" and "Holy shit" are entirely meaningless and devoid of context, especially to those of us who aren't able to watch along with you.
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PSA: When posting in a live viewing thread I would think the majority of the people participating in said discussion are watching live, therefore the majority of the people are of the same understanding of what's going on.

I'm gonna assume you've never been in a GoT/TWD/any other TV show thread.
 
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i'm looking at this and wonder how these people would react if their country would go into a war they'd end up losing.. i mean the aftermath.
How can you reprogram the minds and world view of an entire country? How many of these people actually know how fucked up everything is but play along because they fear for their lives? How willing would the country be for a change without that fear?

I can't think of any other country in history that resembled what North Korea is today, especially in terms of isolation.
 
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ironcreed

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Lobbing missiles at this sort of fanatical unity would be madness. They are a poor country, but have a ruthless and large military who are not scared of shit. It would not be pretty.
 
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Ahasverus

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dakun said:
i'm looking at this and wonder how these people would react if their country would go into a war they'd end up losing.. i mean the aftermath.
How can you reprogram the minds and world view of an entire country? How many of these people actually know how fucked up everything is but play along because they fear for their lives? How willing would the country be for a change without that fear?

I can't think of any other country in history that resembled what North Korea is today, especially in terms of isolation.
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The humanitarian thing is not letting them live in delusion, that's clear.
 
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dakun said:
i'm looking at this and wonder how these people would react if their country would go into a war they'd end up losing.. i mean the aftermath.
How can you reprogram the minds and world view of an entire country? How many of these people actually know how fucked up everything is but play along because they fear for their lives? How willing would the country be for a change without that fear?

I can't think of any other country in history that resembled what North Korea is today, especially in terms of isolation.
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I think Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union comes pretty close.
 
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rocketskates

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dakun said:
i'm looking at this and wonder how these people would react if their country would go into a war they'd end up losing.. i mean the aftermath.
How can you reprogram the minds and world view of an entire country? How many of these people actually know how fucked up everything is but play along because they fear for their lives? How willing would the country be for a change without that fear?

I can't think of any other country in history that resembled what North Korea is today, especially in terms of isolation.
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Curler

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dakun said:
i'm looking at this and wonder how these people would react if their country would go into a war they'd end up losing.. i mean the aftermath.
How can you reprogram the minds and world view of an entire country? How many of these people actually know how fucked up everything is but play along because they fear for their lives? How willing would the country be for a change without that fear?

I can't think of any other country in history that resembled what North Korea is today, especially in terms of isolation.
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I think Myanmar was the only other country closed off for a while.

But yeah it would be tough to be de-programmed, but it would be great to see them liberated.
 
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Iolo said:
North Korea arms control analysts were literally screaming "HOLY SHIT" and "OHHH FUCK" in my Twitter feed when they appeared
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Uh...

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Help, older GAF, I'm part of Young GAF and am prone to hysteria, is this nothing or is it time to get a little worried?
 
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ironcreed

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They literally teach their children in school that the evil US is going to return one day to finish what they started in the Korean war. Imagine how most of them see us. They would probably sooner die than be liberated from their 'glorious supreme leader' and the regime that keeps a boot on them.
 
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ironcreed said:
They literally teach their children in school that the evil US is going to return one day to finish what they started in the Korean war. Imagine how most of them see us. They would probably sooner die than be liberated from their 'glorious supreme leader' and the regime that keeps a boot on them.
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They don't really believe it. They just parrot it or else they die.
 
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vonStirlitz

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dakun said:
i'm looking at this and wonder how these people would react if their country would go into a war they'd end up losing.. i mean the aftermath.
How can you reprogram the minds and world view of an entire country? How many of these people actually know how fucked up everything is but play along because they fear for their lives? How willing would the country be for a change without that fear?

I can't think of any other country in history that resembled what North Korea is today, especially in terms of isolation.
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NK reminds me a lot of the Branch Davidians. They are like the Waco of global politics.
 
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ironcreed

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They also have over 200,000 people in concentration camps that they have said they will kill instantly if the US ever attacks them.
 
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Iolo

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WordAssassin said:
Uh...

D:

Help, older GAF, I'm part of Young GAF and am prone to hysteria, is this nothing or is it time to get a little worried?
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Missile analysts will react to missile porn. The main thing is that it was an unexpected reveal. No, you don't need to worry right now. But North Korea is not sitting on its ass and they are probably going to test this ICBM in the next year. (Previous model missiles appeared in the parade as mockups and were later made operational).

We'll see what analysts say in the next couple days.
 
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norm9

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ironcreed said:
Having that taught to you since childhood in that sort of isolation? I am sure most of them hate our fucking guts.
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They have relatives or people they know in the south. They know somethings different where they live. They just can;'t speak out about it. The old guard generals? Yeah, they hate the West though
 
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dakun

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Vilix said:
I think Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union comes pretty close.
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Nazi Germany didn't exist long enough to be able to rid all Germans of their critical thinking. Even at its peak Hitler had a huge (but silent) opposition. Germans were familiar with the concept of having something other than Nazis in power. And it didn't take long for them to fully embrace democracy either.

Soviet Union is closer to North Korea that's true. But even then i feel like Russians themselves weren't fully submitted to the system as the North Koreans are. That may also be because of how large the Soviet Union was. Control on such a micro-level must've been harder than with North Korea.
 
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This parade is completely surreal. Thousands and thousands of people. Not one person caught not wearing a suit or not being completely enthusiastic about whatever it is they're enthusiastic about. Not one person caught looking at a phone or anything.
 
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cooljeanius

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Good people on Twitter to follow to keep up with this event:
Jeffrey Lewis: @ArmsControlWonk
Ankit Panda: @nktpnd
Steve Herman: @W7VOA
Melissa Hanham: @mhanham
 
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ironcreed

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norm9 said:
They have relatives or people they know in the south. They know somethings different where they live. They just can;'t speak out about it. The old guard generals? Yeah, they hate the West though
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There is no way that being taught that in school in that sort of isolation is not going to have an effect on majority of the population. It is literally part of their belief system, along with worshiping their leader like he is a god. It's who they are and what they know.
 
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