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NBC News: U.S. May Launch Strike If North Korea Reaches For Nuclear Trigger

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jelly

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What is with the leather jackets on these trips. I'm guessing Trump wouldn't look good in one, I remember Bush wearing one. Did Obama wear those?
 
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wesleyshark

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Xando said:
So we're not at 'working with china" anymore but at let's piss off china again...
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Seems like this was inevitable, though. SK was going to get THAAD sooner or later- I believe the first component parts of it were already delivered in March of this year.

This announcement is for the immediate and rapid deployment of THAAD.
 
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pa22word

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Xando said:
So we're not at 'working with china" anymore but at let's piss off china again...
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China is publicly slamming THAAD deployment but privately they know they have a bad hand to play against it so their response has been fairly limited in raising a shitstorm about it. I think all they've really done is some minor retaliatory trade stuff in a few industries, which considering what they could do overall to SK's economy is rather tame. They might step it up now, but I doubt it. With NK just killing off their ace in the hole I can't imagine the argument in Xi's office was very strong in favor of taking a crap all over SK's economy over this after NK so publicly bitch slapped China so recently.

TesUsa said:
Instead of dropping bombs we should drop pamphlets
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We tried back in the day, but IIRC NK was throwing people in gulags for having them so our airdropped aid was sitting and rotting in fields because people were too afraid to pick it up for fear of a death worse than starvation.
 
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telasoman

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There are protests on the streets about the THAAD missiles going on right now. This and the ferry disaster.

My DMZ tour was canceled because of VP Pence visit and was reschedule to tomorrow.

Pretty interesting/scary in Seoul right now for a US citizen...
 
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Xando

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pa22word said:
China is publicly slamming THAAD deployment but privately they know they have a bad hand to play against it so their response has been fairly limited in raising a shitstorm about it. I think all they've really done is some minor retaliatory trade stuff in a few industries, which considering what they could do overall to SK's economy is rather tame. They might step it up now, but I doubt it. With NK just killing off their ace in the hole I can't imagine the argument in Xi's office was very strong in favor of taking a crap all over SK's economy over this after NK so publicly bitch slapped China so recently.
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I'm not talking about China retailiating or some shit but if Trump wants a peaceful decision he needs China and parking THAADs on their door step is not the way to get them on board.
 
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KingBroly

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Xando said:
So we're not at 'working with china" anymore but at let's piss off china again...
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Publicly. Behind the scenes they'll still be working with us. It's all about rhetoric at this point. We can't take him out without their help, and they can't take him out without our help.
 
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ironcreed

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Your second link says allegedly and looks to be BS to me.
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And I hope it is. But Russia did have bombers over Japan a few days ago when this was all unfolding. Given the state of the situation right now, I would not be surprised if Russia was indeed making these moves unannounced. After all, it is in their neighborhood.
 
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Electric Eye

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kess said:
So, is China a currency manipulator again?
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China just got Donald as in the motherfucker can't be trusted as he changes his stance on a daily basis or worst the administration has no concrete foreign policy and every arm is making its own decisions independent of the other and Trump either doesn't give a shit of the mess it causes it or is ok with it all. And China was doing so well. Sad.
 
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kess said:
So, is China a currency manipulator again?
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It kinda sounds like China's doing the whole "Publicly we denounce this but privately we're behind it" thing.

Who's side is Russia on here? If that report of them moving stuff to the border is true does that mean they're with us, with NK, or just locking down their border against refugees should shit go down?
 
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Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!

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WordAssassin said:
It kinda sounds like China's doing the whole "Publicly we denounce this but privately we're behind it" thing.

Who's side is Russia on here? If that report of them moving stuff to the border is true does that mean they're with us, with NK, or just locking down their border against refugees should shit go down?
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I don't think Russia has a great relationship with NK
 
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kame-sennin

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Dixon's Jet said:
You should feel some shame for this post. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. North Korea is the worst country in the world.
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Perhaps, but Americans have no concept of what life is really like there. Here's a good interview with two defectors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyqUw0WYwoc (Part 1)

Skip to 11:46 in this video to see the answer to "Is North Korea better than South Korea in any aspects?". Fascinating stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmzpMP3bEE&t=997s (Part 2)
 
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maabus1999

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WordAssassin said:
It kinda sounds like China's doing the whole "Publicly we denounce this but privately we're behind it" thing.

Who's side is Russia on here? If that report of them moving stuff to the border is true does that mean they're with us, with NK, or just locking down their border against refugees should shit go down?
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If true it would be for border security only.
 
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Dehnus

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Xando said:
So we're not at 'working with china" anymore but at let's piss off china again...
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Such denuclearisation, much peace, many strengths. much WOW.

Seriously basically it is saying one thing and doing another again. Rather then let China help in changing the mind culture of the average North Korean, NOPE fuck that. Just like last time when they brought Nuclear weapons to Korea... it's "Fuck our agreements, we are always right!".

Giving the Kim's all the ammo they need to again go on a propaganda tour about "American Aggression!". Well done USA, well done. /s
 
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WordAssassin

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Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku! said:
I don't think Russia has a great relationship with NK
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maabus1999 said:
If true it would be for border security only.
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Ah ok. This is my first time really paying attention to all these current events and shit (was too young/naive to understand what was happening during Bush's foray into the middle east) so I'm still fuzzy on who's friends with who, but it seems that NK doesn't... really have any friends that would back them up? Maybe China but even they seem to be sick of their shit?
 
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AmyS

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This is interesting.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-carrier-still-thousands-of-miles-from-korea

US carrier still thousands of miles from Korea

WASHINGTON – For more than a week, media reports in the U.S. and around Asia routinely mention the approach of the USS Carl Vinson carrier strike group, seemingly implying an attack on North Korea could be imminent. But a week after the U.S. announced the carrier and its escorts would leave Singapore, forego port calls in Australia and instead return to Korean waters, the carrier and its group had yet to head north.

Rather, the ships were actually operating several hundred miles south of Singapore, taking part in scheduled exercises with Australian forces in the Indian Ocean.

On Saturday – according to photographs released by the U.S. Navy – the carrier passed north through the Sunda Strait, the passage between the Indonesian islands of Sumatra and Java. It's about 3,500 miles from Korea.
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U.S. Navy officials in Pearl Harbor and Washington declined to comment on the ship’s movements, other than to confirm the April 15 movement through the Sunda Strait. Off the record, several officials expressed wonderment at the persistent reports that the Vinson was already nearing Korea. “We’ve made no such statement,” said one official.
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Those same officials did not push back on reports that the Vinson would return to Korean waters, where the strike group operated for much of March as part of the annual U.S.-Korean Foal Eagle exercises. While declining to confirm a specific date, they did not dispute speculative media reports from South Korea that the strike group could be in the region by April 25 or so.

Officials did, however, flatly deny reports that three U.S. carrier strike groups were being directed to mass off the Korean peninsula in a few weeks.

Speculation has been rising that the Ronald Reagan and Nimitz strike groups could join with the Vinson. The Japan-based carrier Reagan, however, is in a maintenance period at Yokosuka scheduled to complete in May.
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What an akward morning here in Seoul. I wake up and check the US news to a CNN headline of "Nuclear War May Break Out At Any Moment" and my first thought was "WTF just happened overnight??" because tensions calmed down a little on Sunday and Monday. There were no sirens or evacuation notices and people outside seem normal.

So on my way to work, it is such a huge contrast to that headline. There's people cheering and there's music... for all the presidential campaigns at every major street corner and subway station (there's a new election on May 9th).
 
Rentahamster

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ShadowSwordmaster said:
This whole thing has been very strange. I wonder why they reported that the Carrier group going to Korea earlier.
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Kensation said:
Almost like the news was trying to sensationalize things.
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Hahahaha

Tevious said:
What an akward morning here in Seoul. I wake up and check the US news to a CNN headline of "Nuclear War May Break Out At Any Moment" and my first thought was "WTF just happened overnight??" because tensions calmed down a little on Sunday and Monday. There were no sirens or evacuation notices and people outside seem normal.

So on my way to work, it is such a huge contrast to that headline. There's people cheering and there's music... for all the presidential campaigns at every major street corner and subway station (there's a new election on May 9th).
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Agreed. Like I mentioned earlier, I'm not freaking out until my Korean friends do.
 
Captain Zyrain

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Herr Schwarz said:
The boner cable news has for war mongering is pretty horrible. I thought the election coverage was bad.

This last week has been gross
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Wars are probably their #1 money maker. Natural disasters are ok, but typically don't last very long, and are usually very regional. Politics is a sure fire #2, but nationwide issues don't always crop up (more so lately though, I'm sure they're happy!). Though War.. War never changes (giggle).

I can't imagine how many eyes were glued to the tvs during the 2nd invasion of Iraq.. Driving across all that sand.. The networks probably can't wait to cream themselves over shock and awe part 2.
 
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kmfdmpig

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Captain Zyrain said:
Wars are probably their #1 money maker. Natural disasters are ok, but typically don't last very long, and are usually very regional. Politics is a sure fire #2, but nationwide issues don't always crop up (more so lately though, I'm sure they're happy!). Though War.. War never changes (giggle).

I can't imagine how many eyes were glued to the tvs during the 2nd invasion of Iraq.. Driving across all that sand.. The networks probably can't wait to cream themselves over shock and awe part 2.
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Profit motive + a (mostly) ignorant populace is a really bad combination that leads to very poor journalism.
 
Tevious

Tevious

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Rentahamster said:
Agreed. Like I mentioned earlier, I'm not freaking out until my Korean friends do.
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As long as Pence is here, I'm really not too worried. The US won't attack NK while the Vice President is in harm's way unless NK strikes first, and I don't believe NK will do that because they know it'd be suicide for them. If the US was going to seriously consider a preemptive strike, I think Seoul would get an evacuation notice before they did anything.
 
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Hermii

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Tevious said:
As long as Pence is here, I'm really not too worried. The US won't attack NK while the Vice President is in harm's way unless NK strikes first, and I don't believe NK will do that because they know it'd be suicide for them. If the US was going to seriously consider a preemptive strike, I think Seoul would get an evacuation notice before they did anything.
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If millions of people started evacuating, NK and probably the entire world would know whats up.
 
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bobbytkc

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Hermii said:
If millions of people started evacuating, NK and probably the entire world would know whats up.
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That just means the US cannot do a surprise attack. A preemptive strike does not mean surprise, it means attacking before you are struck first.
 
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