• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

NC House GOP Attempting To Impeach NC Sec. Of State... With No Evidence

J

JoeBoy101

Member
And the beat goes on...

Just hours after enacting a budget that slashes the budgets of Gov. Roy Cooper and Attorney General Josh Stein, both Democrats, a key House committee signed off on a resolution to begin the impeachment process against Democratic Secretary of State Elaine Marshall.

The vote was strictly party-line, with all 20 Republicans in attendance voting aye, and all 10 Democrats voting no.
Click to expand...

Millis' accusations against Marshall go back to February, when he launched his own investigation after, as he explained it, he "came across an article" that suggested Marshall may have commissioned illegal immigrants as notaries public, which he said would violate state and federal law.

In March, Millis held a press conference calling for Marshall's resignation, claiming to have evidence that 320 non-citizens were licensed as notaries by Marshall's agency. That press conference was attended by Michael LaPaglia, the Republican rival defeated by Marshall in the November 2016 election. During the campaign, LaPaglia made similar accusations against Marshall.
Click to expand...

And a key point...

Rep. Nelson Dollar
, R-Wake, asked Millis whether any law enforcement agency, federal or state, had taken any action to investigate or bring charges against Marshall.

"I did a legislative request," Millis replied. "Those findings are very conclusive."

"The answer to the question is no," Dollar shot back.

"That is not correct," Millis countered, suggesting that those "aspects" might happen later or could be occurring without his knowledge.

"Something may be coming forward," he said.

"Why would you not wait for that to happen?" asked Rep. Becky Carney, D-Mecklenburg.
Click to expand...

This fucking state... I like this state, but it is in spite of almost all of its politicians.

Believe me Ladies and Gentlemen of GAF, Trump and the National GOP's ineptitude with governing right now is greatly limiting the amount of damage they can do. Look to NC to see what they could do if they didn't have their heads up their collective asses.
 
B

Branduil

Member
North Carolina Republicans all seem like the worst people in the world. When we get back into power we need to send them all to North Korea.
 
S

Saint Gregory

Member
JoeBoy101 said:
Believe me Ladies and Gentlemen of GAF, Trump and the National GOP's ineptitude with governing right now is greatly limiting the amount of damage they can do. Look to NC to see what they could do if they didn't have their heads up their collective asses.
Click to expand...

They're only inept because they hold all federal branches. Had Clinton won the election we'd likely be in week two of her imeachment trial for mishandling of classified emails in connection to the murder of Ben Ghazi.
 
X

Xe4

Banned
Branduil said:
North Carolina Republicans all seem like the worst people in the world. When we get back into power we need to send them all to North Korea.
Click to expand...

Democrats are in power. It took massive economic protests against the state to even have that happen, and just barely.

NC GOP are the worst though, you are correct.
 
V

Vena

Member
JoeBoy101 said:
They are quite blatant with their overreaches of power, yet continue unabated.
Click to expand...

Well, they did get slapped on their gerrymandering and could potentially lose their supermajority (if not the majority) in the coming elections with the new district lines.
 
R

Randolph Freelander

Member
Xe4 said:
Democrats are in power. It took massive economic protests against the state to even have that happen, and just barely.

NC GOP are the worst though, you are correct.
Click to expand...

Republicans still control this state via veto-proof majorities in the legislature. There's not much a Democratic governor can do to stop them.
 
J

JoeBoy101

Member
Saint Gregory said:
They're only inept because they hold all federal branches. Had Clinton won the election we'd likely be in week two of her imeachment trial for mishandling of classified emails in connection to the murder of Ben Ghazi.
Click to expand...

You're right, but they wouldn't be attempting to pass the bills they are now. At least they can't make that happen, even with Congress and the WH.
 
Z

Zolo

Member
Slayven said:
Man NC GOP are an extra level of shitty
Click to expand...

Probably not any worse than GOP in certain other states. It's just that NC is a swing state that's actually having to vie for control rather than having a strict Republican majority.
 
SaviourMK2

SaviourMK2

Member
There needs to be a stricter guideline to being a lawmaker. Why is the minimum requirement to be a Republican lawmaker to pass 1st grade math and finish a picture by coloring in the lines of a circle?
 
B

BigDug13

Member
Xe4 said:
Democrats are in power. It took massive economic protests against the state to even have that happen, and just barely.

NC GOP are the worst though, you are correct.
Click to expand...

You say Democrats are in power yet it says the vote was 20 R and 10 D.
 
V

Vena

Member
Slayven said:
Man NC GOP are an extra level of shitty
Click to expand...

They are trying to grab as much power as they can because they are actually losing power in other sectors like the flip on the governor seat due to their shit practices before the election.

Because their total control is in jeopardy, they are basically trying to re-write the rules to keep control.
 
X

Xe4

Banned
Randolph Freelander said:
Republicans still control this state via veto-proof majorities in the legislature. There's not much a Democratic governor can do to stop them.
Click to expand...

It's amazing that the same people decided to elect a democratic governor decided to elect the legislature to be veto-proof Republican.

BigDug13 said:
You say Democrats are in power yet it says the vote was 20 R and 10 D.
Click to expand...
Democrats are in power a lot more than they were before 2016. They're in power, as in they hold the highest office, same as with Obama from 2010-2012 and 2014-2016.
 
S

Sobriquet

Member
Xe4 said:
Democrats are in power. It took massive economic protests against the state to even have that happen, and just barely.

NC GOP are the worst though, you are correct.
Click to expand...

GOP has a veto-proof majority in the state House and Senate. And they continually strip Governor Cooper's and AG Josh Stein's power.
 
T

TheGreatDirector

Banned
Xe4 said:
It's amazing that the same people decided to elect a democratic governor decided to elect the legislature to be veto-proof Republican.
Click to expand...

Not as much as you think. People hated Pat McRory, republican or democrat. The guy was the face behind many unpopular bills in the state and hurt the economy quite a bit. People were itching to have him out.
 
B

Balphon

Member
Xe4 said:
It's amazing that the same people decided to elect a democratic governor decided to elect the legislature to be veto-proof Republican.
Click to expand...

They didn't. The legislative majorities are mostly locked-in. NC state races are some of the least competitive in the country, if not the least.
 
C

Common Knowledge

Member
But remember guys, Paul Ryan said Republicans would never have called for impeachment if Hillary became president. Only bitter Democrats do stuff like that.
 
A

Autodidact

Banned
They currently have the advantage in the NC Senate, 35-15.

I assume they need a two-thirds supermajority, or 34 votes, to convict.

Ew.
 
R

Randolph Freelander

Member
Xe4 said:
It's amazing that the same people decided to elect a democratic governor decided to elect the legislature to be veto-proof Republican.
Click to expand...

Well...

Balphon said:
They didn't. The legislative majorities are mostly locked-in. NC state races are some of the least competitive in the country, if not the least.
Click to expand...

That. Districts in NC are gerrymandered to the point of absurdity. Without redrawn maps, Democrats cannot regain power and can't really make much gains.

There are ongoing court battles over the districts. Of course, the NC GOP would also like to gerrymander the courts.
 
Z

Zips

Member
Absolutely disgusting.

Is there no recourse for an impeachment when it is based on zero evidence other than the claim of a senator to have "read an article"? It's absurd.
 
V

Vicetrailia

Banned
I live in NC and do grassroots work in the triad. Trying, trying, trying to increase turnout. We know how important the midterms are especially this time around.
 
B

BrutishMrFish

Member
Millis' accusations against Marshall go back to February, when he launched his own investigation after, as he explained it, he "came across an article" that suggested Marshall may have commissioned illegal immigrants as notaries public, which he said would violate state and federal law.
Click to expand...

Is there any evidence of that article existing, let alone coming from a legitimate news source?
 
A

Autodidact

Banned
Zips said:
Absolutely disgusting.

Is there no recourse for an impeachment when it is based on zero evidence other than the claim of a senator to have "read an article"? It's absurd.
Click to expand...

Nope. An impeachment conviction can't be appealed because it's technically not a legal process but a political one. If Congress or state legislatures can muster enough votes and will to impeach, they need no other justification. "High crimes and misdemeanors" simply means any act committed by a "high" official that provokes Congress' ire.
 
D

DiscoShark

Banned
Xe4 said:
Democrats are in power. It took massive economic protests against the state to even have that happen, and just barely.

NC GOP are the worst though, you are correct.
Click to expand...

No they're not lol. NC traditionally has one of the weakest governors in the country (in terms of power) and they have enough of a majority to override every veto Cooper can throw out there. Look at how they immediately gutted the executive branch' staff count the moment he got into office to see how much our Governor can do to stand in their way. The only power the Democrats have in this state are through the courts that occasionally call out the GOPs more blatant power grabs.

So what is the GOP now atttempting to do knowing that they have this single out?
Gerrymandering the maps for NC judges and prosecutors.

This state's a fucking mess.
 
P

phanphare

Banned
Ashodin said:
There are pockets of decent, yeah.
Click to expand...

yep

those pockets typically mirror a county map of election results

1920px-North_Carolina_2016_presidential_results_by_county.png
Click to expand...

just go where it's nice and blue
 
S

Slayven

Member
It almost seems like death rattles, the short sightness is amazing. Sure they running the board now, but if they get a dem majority they just set themselves up to be obliterated
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Activision is suing the state of California for illegally suing them and colluding with the media. "No state agency is above the law"
23
3K
Warablo replied
Bobby Kotick, former CEO of Activision, Interested in Buying Tik-Tok
2 3
143
11K
Gameplay Gods Bless replied
  • Locked
[MarketWatch] Microsoft faces battle for Activision deal, especially if ‘Call of Duty’ is destined for Xbox exclusivity
2 3 4 5
219
33K
Bo_Hazem replied
Fox News: Nazis, Anti-Semites, Holocaust Deniers "Slip Through" to GOP Ballot for Midterms
38
3K
Arkage replied
Indiana GOP expanded early voting in GOP-dominated areas & restricted it in Dem-areas
2
77
11K
Acerac replied
Top Bottom