NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread
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A Twisty Fluken
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DiscoJason said:
There's a guy on ebay selling them for $140 with free ship.
Dreams-Visions
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damn, I'm gonna cry soon.
I have a very difficult dime doing super moves in SF4 from the player 1 starting position (facing right). double QCF moves in particular. I can do them with ease from the P2 position, but am extremely inconsistent from the P1 position. I'd say I'm 90% from the P2 position, and about 20% from the P1 side. wtf. I know it's not the stick, because I'm 98% in throwing fireballs from either side.
maybe it's my hand position? how do you guys hold your ball-tops?
I have a very difficult dime doing super moves in SF4 from the player 1 starting position (facing right). double QCF moves in particular. I can do them with ease from the P2 position, but am extremely inconsistent from the P1 position. I'd say I'm 90% from the P2 position, and about 20% from the P1 side. wtf. I know it's not the stick, because I'm 98% in throwing fireballs from either side.
maybe it's my hand position? how do you guys hold your ball-tops?
Got my HRAP EX today from Amazon and love it. However, the plastic film that goes over the top plate is all kinds of stuck under the buttons and metal screws on the side. Am I going to have to open it up and punch out the buttons and parts to gets these bits out or is there an easier way?
sixteen-bit
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kind of like a wineglassDreams-Visions said:
warning: ugly, unclipped fingernails (not me, obviously)
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20050408/ggl39.htm
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20050408/ggl40.htm
BigJonsson
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_dementia said:
That doesnt look right at all
Dreams-Visions
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I've tried it like that and continue to have the problem. It's so frustrating right now because it's so easy for me to do double QCF when facing left. but facing right? only about ~60% of the time...if I'm deliberately trying to do it.
facing left, though, I can put the double QCF special at the end of any combo effortlessly.
*sigh*
Edit: no, I hold it exactly like your second picture.
facing left, though, I can put the double QCF special at the end of any combo effortlessly.
*sigh*
Edit: no, I hold it exactly like your second picture.
thirtytwoutside
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_dementia said:
That's the incorrect way to hold a wine glass.
SapientWolf
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He's... he's cupping his ball. :/_dementia said:
George Claw M.D.
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Nice to see most of the TE/SE stick issues officially addressed by Mad Catz. Coincidentally, I was going to call them, today, regarding the turbo function not working in PS3 HDR, but I was too late. Then, I read this thread, and saw Mark's post. The only thing not mentioned, is the spotty compatibility with the PS3 sticks on PCs. Hopefully, that will also be addressed, even if it just means a driver release. However, despite unofficial forum posts stating PC-compatibility, the sticks were never advertised to, officially, work on PCs, so I can understand if that never gets addressed, officially.
That said, after using the TE stick for the past couple of weeks, I don't think I would've been satisfied with the HRAP3. The only thing the HRAP3 has over the Mad Catz sticks, is BC with PS2 games on PS3. However, I greatly prefer using the outer, straight, 6-button layout on the TE. The inner 6 layout is too cramped, for me. The rainbow layout of the HRAP3 would suck, to me. The earlier HRAPs had better layouts, IMO.
Amazon just shipped my SFIV:CE, today, and once I get that, I probably won't be playing much of any other fighter, for a while. But if I do feel the need to play my PS2 fighters, and there is still no word on a PS2 BC update, for the TE stick, then I'll just get another stick. The niceties of the TE stick is too good to give up, just for PS2 BC on PS3. All IMHO, of course.
I haven't used the SE stick, but it mirrors the TE on features, minus the casing and Sanwa parts. So, it also seems to be a well-designed stick. It's just unfortunate it has engineering problems, in stock form.
Thanks for the updates, MarkMan, and kudos on the awesome TE stick!
That said, after using the TE stick for the past couple of weeks, I don't think I would've been satisfied with the HRAP3. The only thing the HRAP3 has over the Mad Catz sticks, is BC with PS2 games on PS3. However, I greatly prefer using the outer, straight, 6-button layout on the TE. The inner 6 layout is too cramped, for me. The rainbow layout of the HRAP3 would suck, to me. The earlier HRAPs had better layouts, IMO.
Amazon just shipped my SFIV:CE, today, and once I get that, I probably won't be playing much of any other fighter, for a while. But if I do feel the need to play my PS2 fighters, and there is still no word on a PS2 BC update, for the TE stick, then I'll just get another stick. The niceties of the TE stick is too good to give up, just for PS2 BC on PS3. All IMHO, of course.
I haven't used the SE stick, but it mirrors the TE on features, minus the casing and Sanwa parts. So, it also seems to be a well-designed stick. It's just unfortunate it has engineering problems, in stock form.
Thanks for the updates, MarkMan, and kudos on the awesome TE stick!
Splash Wave
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What's the word on the sticks at GS? Mine still doesn't have them and last I heard they weren't coming until March.
Got my TE stick at my Gamestop store the other day. I haven't bought a joystick since the Dreamcast days because they were usually so expensive and I would question the quality of the product compared to a real joystick. As someone who plays a lot of arcade and fighting games this stick was worth the wait and every penny. I can can pull off consecutive fireballs without fail and even Guile's SF IV super combo without any trouble. If I were to have any complaints it's that I prefer a bat stick instead of a ball and the buttons can be overly sensitive at times.
Also I cannot get the stick recognized by MAME. I downloaded the drivers from Microsoft and the computer recognizes it and the inputs I make on it, but MAME doesn't notice it what so ever. Any suggestions?
Also I cannot get the stick recognized by MAME. I downloaded the drivers from Microsoft and the computer recognizes it and the inputs I make on it, but MAME doesn't notice it what so ever. Any suggestions?
If you're new to sticks you're going to suck regardless of what gate you have.FordStang said:oh ok. So I put in SFIV and used my HRAP3 (with sanwa buttons) Love the game. Love the stick. I kinda suck at pulling off moves. Now I understand most of it is probably my skill, but would I better serve myself with an octagonal gate??
I'm sorry, but that MadCatz PR is carefully worded BS. Sure, it does not happen in all sticks, but does that eliminate the possibility that it could or will in the future? If it doesn't happen in all of them, why not? Is there a difference in how the how the washer is being held in some of them or are they all designed the same?
Their statement that it "has been reported on a small number of units", is meaningless. Regardless of if reported, if the design flaw is inherent to all models, it has the possibility of happening to all of them, and in the worst case after the 90-day warranty expires.
Unless MadCatz can honestly say that not all the washers are similarly secured, they are all inherently faulty.
Their statement that it "has been reported on a small number of units", is meaningless. Regardless of if reported, if the design flaw is inherent to all models, it has the possibility of happening to all of them, and in the worst case after the 90-day warranty expires.
Unless MadCatz can honestly say that not all the washers are similarly secured, they are all inherently faulty.
Shadowlink
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That's what I am scared of, what if it happens like a couple of months after the warranty =/2&2 said:
I wouldn't think so. Modding is overrated for new users like us.FordStang said:ahhhh yessss... but would i suck less with a certain gate?
Last night was the first time I used a stick since Tekken 2 in arcades. Tonight I can proudly say I suck less than the yesterday. It's just an adjustment.
So GAF,
I've never really played with sticks before. I never really played in arcades either. In fact, I've barely played any fighters up until recently. I want to get a stick but the prices are pretty damn high on a lot the commonly suggested sticks. I live up in Canadaland so everything is a bit more expensive here as well. What's a good stick for beginner, and does anyone know the best retailers to buy such sticks in Canada?
I've never really played with sticks before. I never really played in arcades either. In fact, I've barely played any fighters up until recently. I want to get a stick but the prices are pretty damn high on a lot the commonly suggested sticks. I live up in Canadaland so everything is a bit more expensive here as well. What's a good stick for beginner, and does anyone know the best retailers to buy such sticks in Canada?
Dreams-Visions
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might want to go with the fightpad. will be an easier adjustment and the fightpads are really great.User2k said:
BudokaiMR2 said:I don't know who would really care about my fairly stock HRAP3 but I am posting my shots anyway. Sorry about the crappy iphone quality but i lost my camera snowboarding last month.
It's just a HRAP3 with seimitsu buttons and a new ball top. My first stick and I had a blast even doing that small mod.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3363/3289378795_06499e4af0.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3289379039_bce5b8d686.jpg
oh and....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3519/3289378859_94989730c0.jpg
Are the seimitsu buttons screw in's????
BudokaiMR2
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Alski said:
Yes the new ones are seimitsu screw-ins
Jamesfrom818
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I got my SE FightStick today. I was wondering if I should use it or just keep it in its box. My HRAP EX should be coming in tomorrow. One more night with the FightPad shouldn't be too bad.
Manabanana
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BudokaiMR2 said:
Looking at my HRAP3 here, the square and circle buttons look precariously close together. Did you have any problems with the screw-ins being wider underneath?
EraldoCoil
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on one of my SF4 SE Fight sticks for 360 the bottom right Black button wouldn't work. I'd press it and nothing would happen, anyone else have a broken button out of the box?
Hasenfeffer
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I just ordered the HRAP EX for 360 today and it will be my first stick. Also ordered some sanwa buttons from lizardlick to go along with it. I'm fucking pumped I'm getting a competent controller to use and not the shitty pad. So when I lose, I'll just blame lag instead of the controller :lol
SapientWolf
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I searched for HRAP EX in Amazon and I got a bunch of porn. Not that I'm complaining but that's not really the kind of stick I wanted.Hasenfeffer said:
Well, looks like they're sold out on Amazon anyway (unless you want to pay $300). I guess I'll have to wait until the manufacturers ship more sticks. I'm kind of disappointed by that aspect of the SFIV launch.
Shadowlink
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Damn, I just ordered a Hori Ex Pro, I don't trust Madcatz with their warranty, so I'm going to return my SE stick to gamestop once it comes tomorrow.
Beer Monkey
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I got my SE fightstick, it's crap. Joystick sticks, buttons register double-presses or no-press at times. I'm gutting it. The housing and base seem solid, and people make homebrew sticks out of MadCatz PCBs all the time. It should be fine with better parts, and there's really no other mod-friendly housing out there on the market that's so 360-friendly with the guide button and headphone jack.
BudokaiMR2
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Manabanana said:
Nah the screw piece is pretty thin on the seimitsu so it was a piece of cake. I think I read somewhere that sanwa screw ins take more work to get put in?
A Twisty Fluken
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Kintaro said:
Replying into a black hole. Next page: "Sorry guys, haven't been reading this thread today"
So now it is the end of March? and not the first week like retailers are telling most preorders? I wouldnt mind the wait as much if there was more honesty upfront. I would have just ordered something else and not bother preordering early. Most people knew after the insane amount of preorders a lot of people were going to get shut out with the first shipment. There is going to a lot more pissed off people come the first of March with no stick, and then they are told to wait even longer till the end of March.MarkMan said:
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