NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread
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sixteen-bit
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It works great on my retail version.dralla said:
Man, GGXX#R runs so much better in BC than Street Fighter Anniversary Collection. Online is bad though.
GamePnoy74
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A buddy of mine brought his PS3 over to my place to troubleshoot his console over the weekend, his pair of Hori Fighting Stick 3s weren't working with his system.
We tried his system along with a bunch of my sticks and controllers and found the following:
VSHG: works
TE Stick: works
Hori FS3 1: doesn't work
Hori FS3 2: doesn't work
Hori FS3 3: doesn't work
Hori HRAP PS2 via USB adaptor: doesn't work
SLS/Sega Saturn USB eBay Pad 1: doesn't work
SLS/Sega Saturn USB eBay Pad 2: doesn't work
We tried them out on all USB ports, and even connected them through USB hubs (powered and non-powered) to see if that can work, but to no avail.
All of this stuff works fine on my PS3...both of our consoles were 60GB launch systems.
His PS3 is up to date on the firmware, we even tried a system restore and it still doesn't work. His FS3s used worked before back when Virtua Fighter 3 came out but nowadays they don't. He can connect USB keyboards and mice and those work fine. Anyone have any clues on how to get his FS3s up and running on his system? Thanks for any info...
Please no 'FS3s sux anyways, get another stick' comments which we've seen on the SRK fourms (great help those guys are :lol), my buddy does have a TE stick for his 360 BTW. Thanks again!
We tried his system along with a bunch of my sticks and controllers and found the following:
VSHG: works
TE Stick: works
Hori FS3 1: doesn't work
Hori FS3 2: doesn't work
Hori FS3 3: doesn't work
Hori HRAP PS2 via USB adaptor: doesn't work
SLS/Sega Saturn USB eBay Pad 1: doesn't work
SLS/Sega Saturn USB eBay Pad 2: doesn't work
We tried them out on all USB ports, and even connected them through USB hubs (powered and non-powered) to see if that can work, but to no avail.
All of this stuff works fine on my PS3...both of our consoles were 60GB launch systems.
His PS3 is up to date on the firmware, we even tried a system restore and it still doesn't work. His FS3s used worked before back when Virtua Fighter 3 came out but nowadays they don't. He can connect USB keyboards and mice and those work fine. Anyone have any clues on how to get his FS3s up and running on his system? Thanks for any info...
Please no 'FS3s sux anyways, get another stick' comments which we've seen on the SRK fourms (great help those guys are :lol), my buddy does have a TE stick for his 360 BTW. Thanks again!
milkham
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Just finished wiring this up, I hope to be adding plexi and art to it soon to make it more interesting. It feels really good the way it is though. Wiring is a mess, but I had less room in there than I thought I would. Turned out to be a lot more work than I expected and after taking apart a sixaxis, i don't know how sony expects your average consumer to change their own batteries.
sixteen-bit
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Nice green goblin mod!
COMPLETE!!!!
Warning! SE and TE sticks with 100% more Moe and Vocaloid! Respectively that is.
Messed up on the cuts in the guide box and the top/bottom edges. But this was after 4 tries. I decided screw it and went with it.
End result: Mio design, 6 pearl blue PS-14-P. 2 pearl white PS-14-P. 1 Sanwa JLF with clear semitsu gumball.
On the other hand this was relatively painfree.
End result: Miku design, Black joystick ball.
And this is only V1. Planning a V2 with some lettering and ink, with 6 green sanwa obsfs and plexiglass cover. Going all out baby! A true Miku Fight Stick! But for now I'm done. Took me all weekend and a few trips to Kinkos. It's been a great experience though. I must thank MarkMan for pushing the modding earlier in the year.
Warning! SE and TE sticks with 100% more Moe and Vocaloid! Respectively that is.
Messed up on the cuts in the guide box and the top/bottom edges. But this was after 4 tries. I decided screw it and went with it.
End result: Mio design, 6 pearl blue PS-14-P. 2 pearl white PS-14-P. 1 Sanwa JLF with clear semitsu gumball.
On the other hand this was relatively painfree.
End result: Miku design, Black joystick ball.
And this is only V1. Planning a V2 with some lettering and ink, with 6 green sanwa obsfs and plexiglass cover. Going all out baby! A true Miku Fight Stick! But for now I'm done. Took me all weekend and a few trips to Kinkos. It's been a great experience though. I must thank MarkMan for pushing the modding earlier in the year.
Hey guys!
Okay, so I bit the bullet and I pre-ordered 2 HRAP's for the PS3 from videogamecentral. They say pre-orders are ETA for may 10th *crosses fingers*... anywho, they were 129.99 each -- is that at least decent? I used the free shipping coupon from toneroni... vs paying 99.99 each from play-asia but with 96$ shipping..
Did I make the right move? T_T *nervous*
Okay, so I bit the bullet and I pre-ordered 2 HRAP's for the PS3 from videogamecentral. They say pre-orders are ETA for may 10th *crosses fingers*... anywho, they were 129.99 each -- is that at least decent? I used the free shipping coupon from toneroni... vs paying 99.99 each from play-asia but with 96$ shipping..
Did I make the right move? T_T *nervous*
sixteen-bit
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Hey dude I don't understand why some people like illustrations of furries all over their joysticks but whatever makes them happy. I learned long ago everyone shares my same tastes.Baron said:
Glad to see you were able to order something.YakiSOBA said:
129.99 is definitely pretty good in this market!
They are $99 normally but I haven't seen it anywhere for that price in a while.
Can't wait to start modding my TE or SE (if I keep it).
Might even mod my t5 stick (new in box still) and my 15th anniversary SF stick one day.
(i'm a super noob at modding
)GamePnoy74
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Can anyone help out on my friend's PS3 FS3 issue by any chance?
sixteen-bit
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Rummy Bunnz
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Is it difficult to mod the green goblin? One of the buttons in mine is busted and I'd like to replace it.
My TE arrived from buy.com finally. It's pretty nice though I'd like to swap out the art. Still not sure on what to use. I'd also like to change the buttons but I'll have to wait until the parts shortage ends. Has anyone here modded their 360 TE to work on PS3? That's the reason why I kept my TE order, since I don't think you can do it with a HRAP EX. Hoping it's not too difficult...I'm really bad at soldering. Like, I killed a GC doing a region mod. Really, really bad.
My TE arrived from buy.com finally. It's pretty nice though I'd like to swap out the art. Still not sure on what to use. I'd also like to change the buttons but I'll have to wait until the parts shortage ends. Has anyone here modded their 360 TE to work on PS3? That's the reason why I kept my TE order, since I don't think you can do it with a HRAP EX. Hoping it's not too difficult...I'm really bad at soldering. Like, I killed a GC doing a region mod. Really, really bad.
milkham
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Rummy Bunnz said:
that depends. the holes in the metal panel are too small for 30mm buttons. so if you were to swap them out you'd have to grind/file the holes to make them bigger. The wiring for the buttons are attached to a different kind of quick disconnect than you're used to seeing, and they're glued to the buttons. If you were to replace them all I think you should go for snap in buttons, that way you avoid having to cut off all the plastic surrounding the buttons. You'd have to strip the wires a good bit to get regular quick disconnects on them and i'm not sure there's enough wire to go with.
here are some pics
swapping with a working original button would be easiest
GamePnoy74
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The PS2->USB adaptor is mine, we just used it for testing, and all of those sticks and controllers work on my PS3. I'll ask him to see if the FS3s work on the PC, thanks dude!DoubleTap said:
polyh3dron
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I sold my green goblin long before I knew about modding 
Rummy Bunnz
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Thanks, milkham! Sounds like it may be over my head...I should probably just swap the buttons around and stick the non working one in the upper right corner or something. Not gonna be using it to play fighters, just shooters, so it's not like I need more than 3 buttons.
BillyG_3001
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Wahey 
I got an email yesterday that my SE Madcatz 360 is being shipped to me,
What buttons are compatible with the SE Madcatz?
& also I heard that the stock stick is rubbish & should be replaced, what is the easiest & best stick to replace it with?
Thanks in advance for any help/info given to me, I can't wait til it arrives
I got an email yesterday that my SE Madcatz 360 is being shipped to me,
What buttons are compatible with the SE Madcatz?
& also I heard that the stock stick is rubbish & should be replaced, what is the easiest & best stick to replace it with?
Thanks in advance for any help/info given to me, I can't wait til it arrives
sixteen-bit
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Sanwa OBSF-30 and OBSN-30 buttons are compatible. OBSF-30 are easier to installBillyG_3001 said:Wahey
I got an email yesterday that my SE Madcatz 360 is being shipped to me,
What buttons are compatible with the SE Madcatz?
& also I heard that the stock stick is rubbish & should be replaced, what is the easiest & best stick to replace it with?
Thanks in advance for any help/info given to me, I can't wait til it arrives
Seimitsu PS-14-G and PS-14-GN buttons are also compatible if you prefer them to Sanwa. PS-14-G are easier to install.
Just think that N in the naming convention = Nut, meaning they screw in instead of snap in.
The stick you want to replace it with is either a Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT-SK or Setmitsu LS-32-01 again, depending on preference.
BillyG_3001
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_dementia said:
Thanks _dementia
Luckily I already have 8 Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons that I bought when I was trying to mod my Street Fighter Anniversary Stick (which didn't fit & I still haven't got round to doing)
How easy is it to replace the stick? Is it as simple as screwing the old one out & the new one in or is there more to it?
Thanks again
sixteen-bit
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Yep. Drop in the stick, screw it to the mounting bracket and plug in the 5-pin connector. Super simple.BillyG_3001 said:
I have a Street Fighter 15th Anniversary stick (PS2/Xbox). The thing is that the cable is broken somewhere. If I twist the cable it works fine but it's sucks because if the stick moves a little, I lost connection.
Is there a place that sells the cable replacement for this stick? I'm not good at soldering, so I didn't bother changing the PCB, but I noticed that the cable is easy to replace.
Is there a place that sells the cable replacement for this stick? I'm not good at soldering, so I didn't bother changing the PCB, but I noticed that the cable is easy to replace.
FindMyFarms
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Baron said:
point taken.
Aside from the whole personal taste thing, if you look at a lot of joystick schemes, the two off colored buttons are the ones not used. This makes it easy to spot which 6 of the 8 buttons are going to be the default setup for the user.
FindMyFarms said:
I understand what you mean, but if you aren't going to use 25% of your buttons, take them out and plug the holes! It's a stupid peeve I have, I think it's a bit silly that people do this color thing. Changing the colors does nothing for me - you aren't looking at the buttons while playing, thinking to yourself, "hm, these two buttons are a different color - better not touch them!"
My god, I feel so much better now.
Teknopathetic
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"I understand what you mean, but if you aren't going to use 25% of your buttons, take them out and plug the holes! It's a stupid peeve I have, I think it's a bit silly that people do this color thing. Changing the colors does nothing for me - you aren't looking at the buttons while playing, thinking to yourself, "hm, these two buttons are a different color - better not touch them!"
My god, I feel so much better now."
You could really make a similar argument for any sort of color scheme/art modification done to any joystick, not just 2 off color buttons.
My god, I feel so much better now."
You could really make a similar argument for any sort of color scheme/art modification done to any joystick, not just 2 off color buttons.
baron said:
Teknopathetic said:
Eh, I don't know - a lot of different colored buttons are used to different aesthetic effect on sticks, but the whole "right two buttons colored black" thing seems like it is employed specifically to give the player, or, conversely, for the player to give, the illusion that they are playing on a six-button bona-fide Street Fighter approved-layout Joystick.
It's a bit daft. Also, I must be in a cranky mood or something this morning, I launched a caustic tirade at someone in the Burnout thread earlier, too. Go figure.
FindMyFarms
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Baron said:
Some people play more than one fighting game though. For myself, SF is my main game, hence my two off buttons are differently colored. But a lot of different games use layouts where you have a row of 4 buttons. Having all 8 makes it easy to be versatile in that situation.
Also, keep in mind that not having all the buttons makes navigating menus a BITCH. You NEED L1/R1 to navigate some SF4 menus, so unless you don't mind using a different control every time you want to change your icon/title, then plugging up your holes would be really inefficient. Not everyone has problems hitting the unused buttons.
edit - with regards to the part of your post I bolded, it's not so you don't press them while playing, it's so you can quickly look at a control and see which 6 buttons will be the default in a street fighter game. It's has both aesthetic and practical purposes.
Rummy Bunnz
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You never know when you might need those two buttons though!
The TE gets points for proper face button layout, with A and B horizontal instead of vertical, but whose bright idea was it to put LT and LB on the right and RB and RT on the left? It's incredibly goofy.
The TE gets points for proper face button layout, with A and B horizontal instead of vertical, but whose bright idea was it to put LT and LB on the right and RB and RT on the left? It's incredibly goofy.
sixteen-bit
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It was probably done so the default SF4 console scheme wouldn't have to be reconfigured via the menu when using it.Rummy Bunnz said:
I removed the last two buttons on one of my HRAPs, the PS3 one I mainly use for SF2 HD Remix. It has helped immensely - and I'm just a very casual SF player. I guarantee you that taking the right two buttons out will be more of a boon to your game than leaving them in and making them a different color. I play a noticeably better SF game without those extra 2 buttons to contend with. If you need those buttons to navigate a menu, just keep a DS3 or 360 pad nearby. I do, but I haven't had to use it, and haven't missed the buttons at all.
sixteen-bit
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Baron said:
Jesus christ why the fuck can't you dye your button plugs red? I mean even the shaft is red it doesn't match and what is with the yellow 24 mm buttons ARGHHHHHH
Being extremely desperate I bought some cheap knockoff from hong kong.
http://www.focalprice.com/PS3_Fighting_Joystick_Black_GC034B_9122.html
Hopefully it is at the level of the Hori FS3. I can post a review once I get it if anyone is interested. (Although I've never actually owned an arcade stick before )
http://www.focalprice.com/PS3_Fighting_Joystick_Black_GC034B_9122.html
Hopefully it is at the level of the Hori FS3. I can post a review once I get it if anyone is interested. (Although I've never actually owned an arcade stick before )
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Yep. Still don't understand why those extra buttons have become the default configuration for EVERY STICK lately. VSHG was the last stick with thought put into the button layout.Baron said:
Rummy Bunnz
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Because some games, like SNK fighters, benefit from having 4 buttons in a row? It looks like there was plenty of thought put into the layout of the TE's buttons - MarkMan posted a photo earlier in the thread of the different styles it works with. Still not happy about the L&R goofiness though!Freshmaker said:
I've played thousands of SF4 matches with my HRAP EX and the extra buttons have been an issue like...twice. Just map them so they don't do anything. Way better than sticking in plugs.
FindMyFarms
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LOLZ Dude, extra buttons on the side have NEVER been an issue for me. And like I said, I hate having to use an extra controller to navigate menus. Just because 2 extra buttons ruin your game, it doesn't mean it ruins others.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I can circle a row on my VSHG that works just as well for that. (Especially since Neo Geo layouts were never linear.)Rummy Bunnz said:
edit: Goes to show what Neo Gaf has done to me. Now I can't stop picturing my HRAP ex with two lines drawn out to the side of the 6 button row with the word "fuck?" in between. :lol
sixteen-bit
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Isn't the Japanese SNK layout similar to this though?Rummy Bunnz said:
(Baron's gonna have a heart attack at this one)
I need a replacement happ style stick for my 15th anniversary SF stick. From what I remember (could be wrong) Happ is now made by a chinese company which produces lower quality sticks. Is the IL 8 way eurojoystick the stick to get? Description below.
Also lizard lick is not taking orders now, and it's the third week of april so it looks like there delaying taking orders even longer. Is there any place in NYC where I can buy a stick?
Thanks in advance.
Also lizard lick is not taking orders now, and it's the third week of april so it looks like there delaying taking orders even longer. Is there any place in NYC where I can buy a stick?
Thanks in advance.
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