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That turned out a lot better than I thought they would look. Do they have the same kind of "paper" without the peelable backside at kinkos?



shidoshi said:
My Adventures in Modding the SE FightStick: Attempt #2

First attempt isn't even worth talking about, so we'll pass on that.

So the solution I ended up going with was a product called "lamilabel" from Kinko's. My initial idea was this: print the image on a full-sheet label, run in through the laminater (ending up with basically a laminated sticker), and go with that. Today, the person who helped me suggested these lamilabels, which are more of a pocket lamination-type product, but one that is made one side that peels off to be sticky. The reason I'm not so hot on pocket lamination is that typically it doesn't adhear as well to a sheet of paper, which is a shame because it is usually a heavier and more durable type of lamination.

However, this lamilabel stuff came out way better than I imaged, and doing the print as a standard color print versus printing in color to a full-sheet label, where the overall quality level drops a bit.

You can see the results below.

If you want to take this route, here is what I've learned below. I don't know the longevity of this lamilabel stuff, but it seems like it might be a decent solution. I put it straight onto the main stick artwork without taking it off, which I think will be a better idea then trying to take off the stock art. The stock art allows for peeling over the lamilabel if you want to, so that way you could easily swap out to a different image at a later date.

* Don't use the template as it current stands in regards to edges. Cutting to the set edges and then trying to get it to perfectly line up on the face is a real bitch. (As you can see in my photos below.) What I'm going to do is extend the edges a bit, cut to that size, stick the sticker on, and then do trimming there. Since the joystick's body by nature has a bit of a groove / edge around the face artwork, this worked well for the bit of trimming that I did do. So I think that for both the outer edge and around the controls, I'm going to try again, have it be a bit bigger than it should be, then trim afterwards for better results.

* Take off the white circles for where the buttons go. Keep the artwork full there, stick this on to the case, and then trim the button holes from the inside out. That way, your cuts will be perfect, it'll be far easier to cut out, and you know for certain that you'll have no white area on the artwork under your buttons.

Anyhow, as I said, I'm going to try another attempt at printing and putting on the artwork. Then I'll just need to order new buttons and a stick.
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Shit I am going to do with my TE stick tomorrow from gamestop.

1. Land DP's consistently for the first time on the 360. Or at least practice to that point.

2. Break my pac man high score on XBL. I am going to demolish that shit with a stick.
 
Even though I got the automated call from GameStop that my TE stick was in, it was not... and the sales people were confused and said it's not available until next week for SF4 day... if they screw me... magazine racks.
 
Halvie said:
That turned out a lot better than I thought they would look. Do they have the same kind of "paper" without the peelable backside at kinkos?
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Well, what I did was just do a regular color print, and then use what is basically a combination full sheet label / lamination. You could just use a regular type of lamination, but then if we're talking about the SE stick, there would be no real way to affix the artwork unless you're going to use glue or something else.

I just got done making a second attempt at putting on artwork, where I printed the art to have a bit more of an edge and then trimmed it on the stick. Worked out far, far better.


ashism said:
2. Break my pac man high score on XBL. I am going to demolish that shit with a stick.
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I wouldn't get my hopes up too much if I were you.
 
Loops said:
So everyone agrees to say :
Virtua Stick HG < HRAP 3 < Madcatz TE ?

still dunno what to buy...
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If you have a decent PCB in it VSHG >>>>>>> HRAP3 on workmanship alone. I'm anxious to see how the TE stick actually feels but that's what it's up against.
 
Loops said:
So everyone agrees to say :
Virtua Stick HG < HRAP 3 < Madcatz TE ?

still dunno what to buy...
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just buy the best, sorry for the caps... the TE is a great stick and at a great price for the parts alone.
 
the clean design of the madcatz se stick really seems to lend itself to art replacement -- i'm set for sticks, but i'm tempted to pick one up for the fun of modding it. maybe put together a little seimitsu shooter stick
 
What are you talking about? Shipping to my house in NJ is $1.99. Im tempted, but I dont like the idea that they dont mention a ship date
 
LevityNYC said:
What are you talking about? Shipping to my house in NJ is $1.99. Im tempted, but I dont like the idea that they dont mention a ship date
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yeah for ground it's not bad, but that's 3-7 days, and unfortunately their $1.99 shipping is only for the lower 48 and I live in Alaska, thus its $30-40 shipping for me =(
 
LevityNYC said:
What are you talking about? Shipping to my house in NJ is $1.99. Im tempted, but I dont like the idea that they dont mention a ship date
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If you get to the end of the checkout procedure it tells you when the estimated shipping date is.

July 1st.
 
Grecco said:
Does anybody know about compusa? Compusa has the TE sticks at 129.99 and up for preorders.... http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4401412&CatId=3265
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I was going to get the SE fightstick off amazon but...I think I'll be getting this :D

Absoludacrous said:
If you get to the end of the checkout procedure it tells you when the estimated shipping date is.

July 1st.
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Wait what? Seriously? They probably won't even get any then :lol
 
So I open up my standard edition FightStick and look what I see:

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This square gate looks EXACTLY like the "Sanwa GT-Y Octagonal Restrictor Plate" which is listed as JLF-only on the LizardLick site here: http://www.lizardlickamusements.com/pages/joysticks.shtml

And here's the big image of that gate: http://www.lizardlickamusements.com/images/for_sale/joysticks/sanwa_gty.jpg

So... what's the deal? Is this JLF or not? I swapped out the ball top with a "Sanwa LB-30-N Joystick Bat Top" from the same page (as well as one of the adapters mentioned) which leads me to believe this might be a JLF after all.

Here's another image of the opened standard edition FightStick in case anyone is interested:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3486/3270418531_f1f998b38a_b.jpg

Edit: Though I feel compelled to say I practiced with the square gate for about 20 minutes and my opinion of it has changed considerably. I'm still adjusting to it, and it's still very hard to pull off Supers in HDR, but I might end up just sticking with the square after all. I just thought this discovery was surprising given the conversation earlier
 
Holy shit! :lol :lol :lol

It does look exactly like a Sanwa stick, but I think it wouldn't be one. If you notice, the buttons are also EXACTLY the same as Sanwa buttons, right down to the 2 bumps that stick out, which you don't see on Hori or Seimitsu or any other kind of button. Pretty safe to say that Madcatz have done their best to copy the Sanwa components as closely as they could.
 
UC1 said:
Holy shit! :lol :lol :lol

It does look exactly like a Sanwa stick, but I think it wouldn't be one. If you notice, the buttons are also EXACTLY the same as Sanwa buttons, right down to the 2 bumps that stick out, which you don't see on Hori or Seimitsu or any other kind of button. Pretty safe to say that Madcatz have done their best to copy the Sanwa components as closely as they could.
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Well kudos to them, then, for reals. I'm starting to think this could probably be classified as something like "JLF compatible" even though it's not a true JLF stick. I'm thinking about spending the $10 on a JLF gate just for the sake of science
 
I also noticed the square gate on your Matcatz stick doesn't have the inner ring. If it were a Sanwa product, you'd be able to rotate the inner ring to give it 4-way operation. Weird thing is, it still has the "handles" from the ring, but they don't appear to do anything.
 
You can tell it is not Sanwa due to the lack of Sanwa logo on the Restrictor Plate, also the micro-switches are not Omron no Omron logo.

Nice copy cats when it comes to looks. :P
 
they probably used the sanwa parts as models for the molds. which Im not sure how legal that is :P

the buttons are clearly not up to snuff to be a sanwa anything. Ill be glad wheni switch mine out and get a 8 way gate.
 
A Twisty Fluken said:
If you're talking out of the box, then HRAP3 doesn't even have sanwa buttons, and the S revision VSHG was distributed in a box!
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There's nothing wrong with Hori buttons. They're mushier in feel because they're meant to be quieter for home use - for smaller Japanese homes.
 
I still think the VSHG is the best mass produced arcade stick when it comes to build quality and feel.

I wonder how my T.E will stack up against it! :D Just need to wait on my Play Asia order, hope I don't have to wait too long.
 
memecomplex said:
There's nothing wrong with Hori buttons. They're mushier in feel because they're meant to be quieter for home use - for smaller Japanese homes.
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they're not any quieter than sanwas, though, and if anything their mushiness gets you into the habit of hitting them harder
 
I just opened up my HRAP EX to swap out the square gate for an octo and a bat top. And I have to say...Hori is so questionable as of late.

I like the HRAP3 (the normal or Amazon), but why did they use the funky button layout, solder the joystick instead of using a 5-pin, place the headset where it's at, have the plastic on the face, etc?

I ordered a HRAP EX SE, I hope it's not a POS like this one...as I could of easily gotten a AIB instead (or close to in price).

If anyone is looking for a decent stick for the Xbox, just either front the cash for the TE or buy the IV standard edition and mod it.

Stay away from the EX2...and the EX isn't as mod friendly as the SE...(even though it is a decent joystick out of the box).
 
shidoshi said:
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The whole thing looks great, but is that a typo in the second last line? :( Kinda looks like there is a space missing between history and of in the fourth line. Oh well, it's a small detail, and overall, the design is soooo awesome D:

I want to make my own custom faceplate art for SF4 and I've got a few questions.

Firstly, how do I make the template of the right proportions etc for the design? Is there somewhere where I can find them on the net? My stick is a Hori Fighting Stick 3 (I know it's not that great a stick in the grand scheme of things, but it's my first stick and I actually really like it :3)
 
Damodar said:
The whole thing looks great, but is that a typo in the second last line? :( Kinda looks like there is a space missing between history and of in the fourth line. Oh well, it's a small detail, and overall, the design is soooo awesome D:

I want to make my own custom faceplate art for SF4 and I've got a few questions.

Firstly, how do I make the template of the right proportions etc for the design? Is there somewhere where I can find them on the net? My stick is a Hori Fighting Stick 3 (I know it's not that great a stick in the grand scheme of things, but it's my first stick and I actually really like it :3)
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"Crowned" is also misspelled. Or are you talking about that in addition to the space.
 
If anyone happens to order the TE stick could you post an estimated ship date? I'm interested in getting one but I would have to sell my HRAP2 to justify the purchase to myself and I don't want to be without a stick for too long :lol
 
akachan ningen said:
Get the seimitsus, they're better anyway. You practically can't touch a sanwa button without activating it.
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How hard do you think it'll be to get the fastener down so that it'll fit under the mounting brackets? I'd like to use the PS-14-KN 30mm but have no idea if it'd be worth the hassle.

edit: or I can go with the skeletons from Akihabarashop but that could be pricey.
 
NameGenerated said:
"Crowned" is also misspelled. Or are you talking about that in addition to the space.
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Yeah, I originally mentioned crowned, then noticed the missing space and edited my post, but now, reading it, it doesn't read as well as I may have intended :D
 
jonah777 said:
How hard do you think it'll be to get the fastener down so that it'll fit under the mounting brackets? I'd like to use the PS-14-KN 30mm but have no idea if it'd be worth the hassle.

edit: or I can go with the skeletons from Akihabarashop but that could be pricey.
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I haven't done it myself, but I've seen a video and it doesn't look hard at all. But you should definitely get the screw-ins, they're better than the snap-ins.
 
akachan ningen said:
Get the seimitsus, they're better anyway. You practically can't touch a sanwa button without activating it.
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are they as easy to put in as the sanwas? and those are completely sold out at lizardlick too ;'(
Halvie said:
yet again....http://akihabarashop.jp/developments...c7a4baa76ce6d0

Parts come straight from the factory unlike other sellers. If Chad is out, get them from here.
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ooh thanks ;o how long does it take to ship overseas?
 
Tried out the TE stick (arrived today!) with HDR for a while

Its amazing!

I mean Im no expert, but congrats MadCatz, you have given Hori a much needed reason to step their game waaaay high.
 
akachan ningen said:
I haven't done it myself, but I've seen a video and it doesn't look hard at all. But you should definitely get the screw-ins, they're better than the snap-ins.
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Not to heckle you but, how so? You mean in terms of how sturdy the buttons are compared to snap-ins? I wonder what the reasoning was for choosing snap-ins.
 
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