NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread

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Hesemonni said:
Eww. Can't really see myself playing fighting game (well besides SNK ones) with that kind of setup and changing it requires opening the stick which in turn voids warranty(?). So I guess TE for me...

I haven't seen a fighting game that didn't have a button config menu. You shouldn't have to open up the stick to change the layout when you can do it via the game.
 
DoubleTap said:
I haven't seen a fighting game that didn't have a button config menu. You shouldn't have to open up the stick to change the layout when you can do it via the game.
Exactly. The TE has the perfect layout for SFIV's default setup, but you would have to reconfigure for most other fighters.
 
Those are some really awesome prices for the two new HRAP's. I wish I didnt already have a fully modded Mad Catz/ Seimitsu setup so I'd have an excuse to buy one!:lol

Although it isnt a complete loss. I have a couple of friends who are going to be very interested when they see the price and that they can pre-order these from Amazon. Thanks for the link, MM.
 
What a great video.

Yeah, I much prefer an octagonal gate. I ride the gate because it gives me greater control over the movements. I can't tell you how many times I've jumped because I don't have an audio or tactile signal that tells me I've gone too far. That, and I have a lot of completely casual players over at my house at times, and explaining a concept like qcf/236 is really, really hard when there's no way for them to tell if they are doing it correctly. An octagonal gate would go a long way.

Smaller, uneven zones don't phase me a bit.

memecomplex said:
I did, it's great for a while but it does take away from the "real arcade" experience.

pfffft

If I want an arcade experience, I'll go to an arcade. I want to play, play well, and have fun in the process! Trying do a hadouken, but ending up jumping into an opponent's attack is no fun, no fun at all.

Thanks for the advice, though.
 
How does the size of the Hori Playstation 3 Fighting Stick 3 compare to the SFIV SE stick?

I have a Hori stick on order so I can play GGXX ACP on my PS3, but if it is tiny I'm not sure if I should bother. I'm having trouble loading the game on my PS3, anyway (no point buying a stick if the game doesn't work).
 
Thanks for the heads up, guys. I just pre-ordered the HRAP3-SA from Amazon. That's an amazing price.

I actually just received the HRAP3 regular edition from amazon a couple of days ago but hadn't opened the box yet so it's going back.

For those of you on the fence between buying the regular HRAP3 now, and the SA in October, the deciding factor for me was the fact that you can easily put a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in the SA version (correct me if I'm wrong).
 
Decado said:
How does the size of the Hori Playstation 3 Fighting Stick 3 compare to the SFIV SE stick?

I have a Hori stick on order so I can play GGXX ACP on my PS3, but if it is tiny I'm not sure if I should bother. I'm having trouble loading the game on my PS3, anyway (no point buying a stick if the game doesn't work).

AFAIK, they are of compairable size, but I think the SFIV SE stick is the bigger of the two.
 
To all you MadCatz SE/TE 360 owners, how is the headset performance for you? With my SE I've tried my old headset using their provided adapter and a new model that doesn't need one. Having problems with both. It only picks up about 50% of what I or the people I'm talking to are saying. An addition to that, it cuts out randomly which makes chatting on it at all virtually useless. It doesn't help that the sound quality is pretty crappy even when it does work.

In the meantime I've just created a second account and taken advantage of the free month of gold MS gives you. Then I just sign on both my accounts, start a party, and chat with the headset in my second profile's controller. Only problem there is that I'm not going to pay for another XBL subscription due to a bad headset jack on my stick. Having two accounts on XBL can't be good for bandwidth either.

I was thinking about picking up a wireless headset. That would bypass having to use the arcade stick's port right? If there was one thing the crappy little EX2 got right, it was the headset jack quality.
 
AZ Greg said:
To all you MadCatz SE/TE 360 owners, how is the headset performance for you? With my SE I've tried my old headset using their provided adapter and a new model that doesn't need one. Having problems with both. It only picks up about 50% of what I or the people I'm talking to are saying. An addition to that, it cuts out randomly which makes chatting on it at all virtually useless. It doesn't help that the sound quality is pretty crappy even when it does work.

In the meantime I've just created a second account and taken advantage of the free month of gold MS gives you. Then I just sign on both my accounts, start a party, and chat with the headset in my second profile's controller. Only problem there is that I'm not going to pay for another XBL subscription due to a bad headset jack on my stick. Having two accounts on XBL can't be good for bandwidth either.

I was thinking about picking up a wireless headset. That would bypass having to use the arcade stick's port right? If there was one thing the crappy little EX2 got right, it was the headset jack quality.

My TE quality is fine.
 
jepjepjep said:
Thanks for the heads up, guys. I just pre-ordered the HRAP3-SA from Amazon. That's an amazing price.

I actually just received the HRAP3 regular edition from amazon a couple of days ago but hadn't opened the box yet so it's going back.

For those of you on the fence between buying the regular HRAP3 now, and the SA in October, the deciding factor for me was the fact that you can easily put a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in the SA version (correct me if I'm wrong).

That HRAP3-SA is a really good looking stick. Besides the all-Sanwa parts, what is the difference between the regular HRAP3 and the HRAP3-SA? I noticed the top panel of the SA stick looks like it is metal. Is the top panel of the standard HRAP3 metal or plastic?
 
Jagernaut said:
That HRAP3-SA is a really good looking stick. Besides the all-Sanwa parts, what is the difference between the regular HRAP3 and the HRAP3-SA? I noticed the top panel of the SA stick looks like it is metal. Is the top panel of the standard HRAP3 metal or plastic?

It is metal just like the regular HRAP but has a much better top layer...making the whole panel heftier. Also has a better quality finish that wont get scratched as easily. This is the same case with the EX-SE. It also has counter-sunk nuts so you can open it up very easily and quickly in about thirty seconds.
 
Thanks for the info. Certainly sounds like it is worth the extra $20. The only thing is that it won't be in stock for a few more months.
 
So how much are those two sticks, normally? About $150? Too bad there's a $20 price difference. I don't get that. I'd like to have the 360 version. I seem to have a ton of XBLA games I could use it for. But I also have a lot of arcade comps on PS3 (PS2 bc). I need both!
 
If you live in NA those two sticks were at least $200 to order apiece because of the heavy shipping charges. This is an awesome deal. And they are ridiculously awesome sticks...the 360 one in particular.
 
Yes Boss! said:
There is an EX-SE on eBay right now from seller kyototempleartist. It will set you back $360 after shipping but I've bought stuff from this seller in the past few years and he/she is ace. Probably way too much for it but it is out there.

My history is pretty strange. I'm a lifelong gamer beginning in the early eighties when I lived in the middle east and africa. I didn't grow up with TV, but atari and Game & Watches were always available. I continued through the 16-bit stuff after I moved to the US but stopped buying when Sony entered the market...but I did have a DC with about fifty games when I was in europe. So I basically missed games from 1995 to the launch of the 360, when I jumped back in full-bore and bought everything. Took me about two years to figure I don't really like the new stuff outside of my beloved nintendo so I've dumped everything except nintendo, but kept shmups and fighters since I loved those two genres in the early nineties.

I sold about half of my collection for $5K and bought some Cave shooters and a cabinet and will just focus on those for the next few years. I did something similar with movies...got a degree in film theory and history from UC and Sorbonne Nouvelle, watched about 6000 movies in the last 15 years but now almost exclusively concentrate on Indian cinema.

The sticks are just for fun. Really, I just find the mechanical aspect romantic. I don't much use them and it is a relatively inexpensive and an easy hands-off hobby. Far, far cheaper than some of my other recent hobbies. My favorite sticks so far are the HRAP-EX and the Mad Catz SE...but, again, I'm just a casual user so that probably doesn't mean much.

Im guessing your other recent hobbies are cars? Every hobby looks cheap compared to cars lol
 
Nah, I'm thirty-four and have never, ever owned a car. Can't stand them and was so much happier when I lived in cities like Berkeley, San Francisco, and Paris where a car is pointless. My last and most recent hobby was flying micro collective pitch helis. Before that, cinematography...my camera setup was about 20k, and considered on the low end of the professional setups.

Gaming is mad cheap! My annual budget is around $5000 and I get tons of stuff for that...though I think I'm gonna go a smidge over that this year.
 
So the cord on my HRAP2 tore a lil bit a few months back. I just put electrical tape around the tear to keep it from moving too much and it worked perfectly fine. Earlier tonight I fire up 3s to practice for EVO and the stick starts to d/c every once in a while...not good.

This happen to anyone at all? How would I go about fixing this? I got a little over a week before i fly out to EVO and my main stick that i use for tournament is d/cing =*(

The cord is torn right at the part where the cable is exposed from the housing of the stick. There also looks like there's some loose copper wiring when i peeled back some of the electrical tape.

What should i do? NOOOO MY STICK!!
 
Yes Boss! said:
Gaming is mad cheap! My annual budget is around $5000 and I get tons of stuff for that...though I think I'm gonna go a smidge over that this year.
That's probably more then I spent in the past 6 years...And I'm probably selling myself short >_>
 
chrisdat,

just buy a ghetto uses PS2 controller, remove the lead and splice it into your stick...throwing away the broken lead. Once you open your HRAP you'll notice the cable breaks out so it should be very easy to replace...just take a photo before removing the damaged one from the stick. You should be able to find pinouts for both the HRAP pcb and the Sony contoller somewhere online...or just test as you go.

Alternately,

You could open the HRAP up and just completely cut the damaged part out and rewire it. Cosmetically it will still look the same since you could leave the repair inside the case... The cord would just be an inch or two shorter.
 
Yes Boss! said:
Nah, I'm thirty-four and have never, ever owned a car. Can't stand them and was so much happier when I lived in cities like Berkeley, San Francisco, and Paris where a car is pointless. My last and most recent hobby was flying micro collective pitch helis. Before that, cinematography...my camera setup was about 20k, and considered on the low end of the professional setups.

Gaming is mad cheap! My annual budget is around $5000 and I get tons of stuff for that...though I think I'm gonna go a smidge over that this year.

YB, you still into cinematography?

Btw, MarkMan, just want to give you a shout out as to how awesome the XB360 Fightpads are! Finally got one in my area and it is GAMING BLISS playing with this pad. Closest thing to a Saturn pad on the 360. Love it! Great job MM and MC!
 
Yes Boss! said:
If you live in NA those two sticks were at least $200 to order apiece because of the heavy shipping charges. This is an awesome deal. And they are ridiculously awesome sticks...the 360 one in particular.

Is there anything differentiating the two sticks? Or do you just like the color scheme better? What's up with the $20 difference these Hori sticks always have? MS licensing issue?
 
RadarScope1 said:
Is there anything differentiating the two sticks? Or do you just like the color scheme better? What's up with the $20 difference these Hori sticks always have? MS licensing issue?
The 360 stick (HRAP EX-SE) uses Seimitsu parts. The stick has a tighter throw and the buttons aren't as sensitive as the Sanwa counterparts in the HRAP3-SA.

Generally, people prefer Seimitsu for Shmups and Sanwa for fighters, but everyone has individual preferences.
 
Preordered the HRAP3SA. I don't need one, but what the hell. The excitement in the thread has infected me.

I already have the HRAP EXSE. I'd like it if they were to release the HRAP3SE in the states as well.
 
Okay so I'm in Canada, and will be looking to buy a stick at some point. What are my options?

The Fightstick TE is sold out of course. I can't find the HRAP3 anywhere for $99 but on a US site that charges like $70 for shipping. Screw that.

I might not want something with the best parts, but if it doesn't have great parts, I'd like something that's easily moddable.

I'd like something that works with both PC and PS3. I'm assuming that shouldn't be a problem. I realize a 360 stick would be a better fit for the PC, but I'm assuming it'll be all the same if I use the Sixaxis driver on the PC. Something with it's own drivers would be preferable, but is not necessary.

edit: also, is there any stick that will work on both PS3 and 360? If not, is there an easy mod? I can solder, but I'd rather not risk a $150 stick.
 
^^^ Consider the Madcatz SE stick. Cinch to mod.

There are no retail sticks compatible with both platforms, they need to be modded to do so.
 
Thanks, I'll use that as a last resort.

I'm gonna check EB. Apparently they charge $99 for the Fightstick. Better than nothing I guess. Either that or I hope NCIX gets the TE in stock for $163 sometime soon.

So is there a way to mod the stick to work on both PS3 and 360?
 
So is the HRAPSA worth waiting compared to the TE fightstick? Aside from two extra buttons and 10 bucks, what else are the differences?
 
TheExodu5 said:
Thanks, I'll use that as a last resort.

I'm gonna check EB. Apparently they charge $99 for the Fightstick. Better than nothing I guess. Either that or I hope NCIX gets the TE in stock for $163 sometime soon.

So is there a way to mod the stick to work on both PS3 and 360?
This thread might be helpful
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=182775

Totakeke said:
So is the HRAPSA worth waiting compared to the TE fightstick? Aside from two extra buttons and 10 bucks, what else are the differences?

Both have turbo, both can switch between D-Pad/Left/right analog. TE has a longer cable and cord storage. SA is $30 cheaper. TE has a flat control panel and the HRAP angles upward slightly.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Okay so I'm in Canada, and will be looking to buy a stick at some point. What are my options?

The Fightstick TE is sold out of course. I can't find the HRAP3 anywhere for $99 but on a US site that charges like $70 for shipping. Screw that.
Will Amazon.com (US site) ship a TE to Canada? They're in stock now.
 
_dementia said:
Both have turbo, both can switch between D-Pad/Left/right analog. TE has a longer cable and cord storage. SA is $30 cheaper. TE has a flat control panel and the HRAP angles upward slightly.

Opps, was talking about the HRAPSE, but I see the point. Thanks.
 
Bananimus said:
Will Amazon.com (US site) ship a TE to Canada? They're in stock now.

- Sony PS3 Street Fighter IV FightStick Tournament Edition cannot be shipped to the selected address.

Guess not :(

Seems like all gaming stuff never gets shipped from Amazon.com.
 
Totakeke said:
Opps, was talking about the HRAPSE, but I see the point. Thanks.
Just remember this naming convention with Hori's "special" sticks

SE = SEimitsu
SA = SAnwa

also, the EX-SE doesn't do analog or turbo
 
Hey guys total stick newb question. I just got a SFIV SE stick and the joystick is making a popping sound when i move it around(not to be mistaken with a clicking sound) so i was wondering if that normal or if ive got a busted stick i need to exchange? Thanks
 
Sorry for the bump, but I need some really quick advice.

I went to EB Billings Bridge, and got really lucky. They had a bunch of TE sticks in stock! :D Went with the PS3 version. $189.99

Now, I need to decide whether I keep this or not. Now, I can't check that other page about modding, or about PC connectivity. Is it safe to assume I can use this on the PC no problem (I don't mind running Joy 2 Key or the Sixaxis drivers, I just want to know if I can use it flawlessly)? Also, is the PS3 version moddable into the 360 one, or is it just the other way around?
 
TheExodu5 said:
Sorry for the bump, but I need some really quick advice.

I went to EB Billings Bridge, and got really lucky. They had a bunch of TE sticks in stock! :D Went with the PS3 version. $189.99

Now, I need to decide whether I keep this or not. Now, I can't check that other page about modding, or about PC connectivity. Is it safe to assume I can use this on the PC no problem (I don't mind running Joy 2 Key or the Sixaxis drivers, I just want to know if I can use it flawlessly)? Also, is the PS3 version moddable into the 360 one, or is it just the other way around?

Will work flawlessly on the PC. You may need to DL some drivers though. As far as modding for dual console use, everything I've read indicates that the best route is to buy a 360 stick and mod from there.
 
AZ Greg said:
Will work flawlessly on the PC. You may need to DL some drivers though. As far as modding for dual console use, everything I've read indicates that the best route is to buy a 360 stick and mod from there.

Was hoping it would be the other way around, but figure it wouldn't be thanks to Microsoft's proprietary garbage.

Sticking with the PS3 stick. I only have BlazBlue on PS3, and Street Fighter IV on PC at the moment. Most of the people seem to be chillin' on the PS3 anyways, and at least my friends won't mind using the Dualshock or Sega Saturn pads on the system, whereas they'd have to use the 360 pad on the 360. I just won't bother with fighting games on the 360.

I've never owned an arcade stick before...but god damn this stick is sexy as hell. Wow.
 
TheExodu5 said:
I've never owned an arcade stick before...but god damn this stick is sexy as hell. Wow.

Yeah it is, but now that you've gotten the taste you'll need to feed the addiction with more sticks....more! MORE!!
 
AZ Greg said:
As far as modding for dual console use, everything I've read indicates that the best route is to buy a 360 stick and mod from there.
Yeah. The 360 version of the stick with a Cthulhu board (for PS3 support) and an Imp kit (for automatic switching) would probably be the easiest.

A Cthulhu and an Imp kit would probably run you about $50-60USD.

Edit:

PS3 can be done if you are willing to do a padhack of a 360 , which can be a huge pain in the ass.
I use the Madcatz wired 360 pads (Gamestop branded) for my padhacks. They're very easy to work with. Cheaper than a Cthulhu, too.
 
I got 2 TE sticks back when the first major shortages were happening, you just gotta check your local ebgames every week. I happened to call one that was sold out for weeks, the following week the girl had 3 in stock so I went and got them right away.
 
How bad is the Hori Fighting Stick 3? Mind you that I've never owned an arcade stick. I was considering of getting it because it's only few euros more expensive than the Mad Catz Street Fighter pad. (it's 40 euros at one internet shop)
The SE Mad Catz stick would be 70 euros which might be too much for now.

I would be mainly playing BlazBlue and maybe I'd get Street Fighter IV too.
 
Bananimus said:
I use the Madcatz wired 360 pads (Gamestop branded) for my padhacks. They're very easy to work with. Cheaper than a Cthulhu, too.

In either case, is internal modding of the TE stick required? If it's all external, I definitely wouldn't be against giving it a shot. Might not want to risk my first stick mod job on a $190 stick though.

Tonza said:
How bad is the Hori Fighting Stick 3? Mind you that I've never owned an arcade stick. I was considering of getting it because it's only few euros more expensive than the Mad Catz Street Fighter pad. (it's 40 euros at one internet shop)
The SE Mad Catz stick would be 70 euros which might be too much for now.

I would be mainly playing BlazBlue and maybe I'd get Street Fighter IV too.

Everyone has told me that stick is absolute garbage...I was looking at it a few months back. I've been told it's much better to save up for the SE stick.
 
Tonza said:
How bad is the Hori Fighting Stick 3? Mind you that I've never owned an arcade stick. I was considering of getting it because it's only few euros more expensive than the Mad Catz Street Fighter pad. (it's 40 euros at one internet shop)
The SE Mad Catz stick would be 70 euros which might be too much for now.

I would be mainly playing BlazBlue and maybe I'd get Street Fighter IV too.
It's not a bad starter stick at all. Just check akachan ningen's record in the GAF SFIV tourneys. That's the controller he uses.

uh oh, here comes catfish with the rebuttal
 
_dementia said:
It's not a bad starter stick at all. Just check akachan ningen's record in the GAF SFIV tourneys. That's the controller he uses.

uh oh, here comes catfish with the rebuttal

Alright, from the mouth of someone who knows something about sticks. Go with the Fight Stick 3 then. I guess the ones that told me that it was garbage were snobby enthusiasts. =\
 
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