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[BlackOlivesMatter]

Post the link, or PM, so Evilore can take care of it. Violence and threats against fellow users has never been, and never will be tolerated.

Unless you're full of shit. In that case, I invite you to discuss the subject at hand, rather than resorting to absurd mischaracterizations.

I'll take "Both of them are full of shit" for $500 Alexcadia

And unless proof is furnished asap, they should get hit with bans for making false accusations for victimhood cred.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

Post the link, or PM, so Evilore can take care of it. Violence and threats against fellow users has never been, and never will be tolerated.

Unless you're full of shit. In that case, I invite you to discuss the subject at hand, rather than resorting to absurd mischaracterizations.

EviLore or a mod would need to talk to him about it and find out more info as to who did it. But here is the links where he says he had been threatened by other posters on this board.

Dueling Electors

Ah if it was only one person. Do you have any idea how many people use this board? it’s at least two. The horror. You’ve yet to walk back the dissenter labeling you threw at me. Fixed that for you, and I don't even know wtf youre talking about. Ah yes calling everyone that doesn't...

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Dueling Electors

Ah if it was only one person. Do you have any idea how many people use this board? it’s at least two. The horror. You’ve yet to walk back the dissenter labeling you threw at me. Fixed that for you, and I don't even know wtf youre talking about. Ah yes calling everyone that doesn't...

www.neogaf.com

 

[EviLore]

What's this all about Bitmap Frogs ?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Would those be the examples where you and some politics posters are dancing in a line, in a funny Spongebob (or something) gif?

I had the decency to not attack those for how ridiculous they truly were, and address your larger point.

How ridiculous they were that only and exclusively only left leaning posters were there. And in other one. And the other one. And so on. There's more than one post I wrote about, you can talk about the other ones.

I don't lobby for leftists to be attacked, or Xbox fans, or whatever the victimhood trend of the day is. I lobby for people who deserve it to be trolled.

So people who post left deserve to be trolled. That's what you lobby for. I see the difference now.

My invitation to you is the same that it has been over the past year, every time someone cries about this.

Go post excellent leftist content. Start with how Trump and Republicans hemmed and hawed about healthcare, and never instituted anything worth a damn, because I've wanted to read something of that nature for a year.

Wait, so you get to decide what posts are allowed to be trolled? Are you the moderator there? And if you aren't, why are you attempting to stablish subjective criteria about who gets to be trolled or not? Why are you telling me what to post.

But don't cry that you're getting what you put out. It reflects poorly on character.

Isn't a bit disingenous to pretend that putting facts on the table that the politics subforum has become downright hostile is crying?

 

[-Arcadia-]

I would say that if Bitmap Frogs can not provide receipts for such an audacious claim, it further throws the nature of his character, and other claims into doubt.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I would say that if Bitmap Frogs can not provide receipts for such an audacious claim, it further throws the nature of his character, and other claims into doubt.

You expect me to keep a list of all grudges in a notebook or something?

I reported it when it happened. Nothing was done.

 

[EviLore]

Link these threats of violence.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Screencap the pm/posts in question here/foward it plspls.

 

[-Arcadia-]

How ridiculous they were that only and exclusively only left leaning posters were there. And in other one. And the other one. And so on. There's more than one post I wrote about, you can talk about the other ones.

Ever heard of the 'Trump will be inaugurated' posters? It's not a story you would like to tell. Ridiculed. Laughed at. Mocked.

Almost like posts are being judged on their own merits.

So people who post left deserve to be trolled. That's what you lobby for. I see the difference now.

My post is available to read. This is blatantly not what I said. This is why people are having a bad reaction to you.

Wait, so you get to decide what posts are allowed to be trolled? Are you the moderator there? And if you aren't, why are you attempting to stablish subjective criteria about who gets to be trolled or not? Why are you telling me what to post.

We have a culture, one that you chose to ignore when you Reeeeeeturned. Merit and quality win the day. Low effort posts, trolling, and derails are treated accordingly.

Isn't a bit disingenous

The question you need to ask yourself.

 

[-Arcadia-]

Personally, I'd recall when someone threatened my life, but that's just me.

Also highly suspicious that a moderation team who takes such things very seriously, even permabanning threats to outside figures, suddenly doesn't care that Bitmap Frogs is getting death threats.

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

Personally, I'd recall when someone threatened my life, but that's just me.

Also highly suspicious that a moderation team who takes such things very seriously, even permabanning threats to outside figures, suddenly doesn't care that Bitmap Frogs is getting death threats.

Exactly, it's always fascinating when a liar gets caught and is backed into a corner on their bullshit

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

The search function works p good btw.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

We have a culture, one that you chose to ignore when you Reeeeeeturned. Merit and quality win the day. Low effort posts, trolling, and derails are treated accordingly.

When the split happened, I didn't suicide my account and if I recall I posted positive about those people leaving. Feel free to trawl my post history, as it's been done in the politics forum to score hits on me.

Regretfully the warframe and monhun communities moved, so I followed

I started posting back before I was even banned or warned on reset, openly complaining and mocking the way they conducted business.

I eventually ended up banned when I told resetera what I thought about them.

So you can shove that reeturned monicker up your righteous ass.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

The search function works p good btw.

I can't search reports.

I reported back when it happened, summer this year. I tried google fu to find it when I posted in this thread because I knew it would come up, but came up empty.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Personally, I'd recall when someone threatened my life, but that's just me.

Also highly suspicious that a moderation team who takes such things very seriously, even permabanning threats to outside figures, suddenly doesn't care that Bitmap Frogs is getting death threats.

I never said death threats, I said violence.

Why you attempt to twist it?

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

You said

So you can shove that reeturned monicker up your righteous ass.

 

[-Arcadia-]

When the split happened, I didn't suicide my account and if I recall I posted positive about those people leaving. Feel free to trawl my post history, as it's been done in the politics forum to score hits on me.

Regretfully the warframe and monhun communities moved, so I followed

I started posting back before I was even banned or warned on reset, openly complaining and mocking the way they conducted business.

I eventually ended up banned when I told resetera what I thought about them.

So you can shove that reeturned monicker up your righteous ass.

If we can believe you, given how your current claims are turning out, good for you. You didn't mob a man and ruin his life, and recognized this was morally bereft. Your medal will be forthcoming shortly.

You still left, returned, and ignored the prevailing culture of quality, and being called out for providing the opposite. The point, which you unsurprisingly managed to completely not address again, stands.

 

[EviLore]

I don't consider you a Reeturner, Bitmap Frogs . You do seem pretty tilted right now, though, and not yourself. Step back for a while and cool off, and stop posting in Politics for now since it's only agitating you further.

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

I never said death threats, I said violence.

Why you attempt to twist it?

Caught in a lie

Prove it or GTFO, the mods would never let threats of any kind stand

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

You said

And yet you ignore the rest of the post.

I even attempted to kickstart the warframe community here again because I knew several were unhappy flying under the reset moniker.

Sadly it didn't get much traction, communities forum is taking longer to pick up pace and the hardcore gamers prefer destiny to warframe.

 

[-Arcadia-]

I never said death threats, I said violence.

Why you attempt to twist it?

So you have a problem with a figure of speech, but not the whoppers you've been telling?

Ok.

Well, for my part, I've taken the error to heart. How about you do the same?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

If we can believe you, given how your current claims are turning out, good for you. You didn't mob a man and ruin his life, and recognized this was morally bereft. Your medal will be forthcoming shortly.

You still left, returned, and ignored the prevailing culture of quality, and being called out for providing the opposite. The point, which you unsurprisingly managed to completely not address again, stands.

I reported it.

I can't search reports.

I can provide the timeline, which was summer this year.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

What did the post say? Anything at all?

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Bitmap Frogs , if you need someone to fake some PMs for you, holla atcha boi.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Bitmap Frogs , if you need someone to fake some PMs for you, holla atcha boi.

Soapyful pls

 

[Evangelion Unit-01]

Bitmap Frogs
I find it hard to have a discussion in the Politics section because the discussion can be at an almost kindergarten level at times. I choose to abstain most of the time as a result. That said I prefer politics as is vs the alternative of heavy and potentially biased moderation. Let the market of ideas work. Be a leader and cultivate the environment you wish to see through example. I've been planning to say something similar about console warring...perhaps I still will at another time.

I'm not familiar with you personally but looking through your posts and seeing stuff like "the only thing that will change with Biden in office is the amount of crap flowing through the plumbing" (paraphrasing here) doesn't make your arguments any better than the people you are complaining about. In fact, it might make them worse. Get off your high horse; you're no better than those you complain about.

So you can shove that reeturned monicker up your righteous ass.

Case in point. Get over yourself.

 

[-Arcadia-]

I reported it.

I can't search reports.

I can provide the timeline, which was summer this year.

Then it should be a simple matter to find them. I look forward to the results.

I will respect Evilore's request for you to take some time, and similarly request that you take what I said to heart.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I don't consider you a Reeturner, Bitmap Frogs . You do seem pretty tilted right now, though, and not yourself. Step back for a while and cool off, and stop posting in Politics for now since it's only agitating you further.

I will.

What did the post say? Anything at all?

I honestly don't recall. I saw it, I reported and moved on because I didn't want to dwell on it. I wish I could be of more help.

I've always thought that keeping a list of grudges is petty and unbecoming...

Bitmap Frogs , if you need someone to fake some PMs for you, holla atcha boi.

Keep your line open, amigo.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Seriously if you remember any part of that post I can find it a day I'm not working 13 hours straight. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Bitmap Frogs
I find it hard to have a discussion in the Politics section because the discussion can be at an almost kindergarten level at times. I choose to abstain most of the time as a result. That said I prefer politics as is vs the alternative of heavy and potentially biased moderation. Let the market of ideas work. Be a leader and cultivate the environment you wish to see through example. I've been planning to say something similar about console warring...perhaps I still will at another time.

There cannot be a market of ideas when posting left means you're trolled out of the forum. Positions are exceptionally entrenched and stubborn refusal to concede even the most minor of points is a reality, when it comes to left vs right. Something that over time I've become guilty for, as well.

I don't think putting a blanket ban on trolling people, no matter whether -Arcadia- believes they deserve to be trolled or not, is heavy handed moderation. No one wants another reset and I'm a socialdemocrat.

I'm not familiar with you personally but looking through your posts and seeing stuff like "the only thing that will change with Biden in office is the amount of crap flowing through the plumbing" (paraphrasing here) doesn't make your arguments any better than the people you are complaining about. In fact, it might make them worse. Get off your high horse; you're no better than those you complain about.

I don't want to relitigate anything from politics, try a heel turn and go hard left for 6 months and see what happens. Suddenly trolling doesn't seem as bad when you're being trolled on a daily basis.

And I'm done with the conversation about the contents of politics.

Seriously if you remember any part of that post I can find it a day I'm not working 13 hours straight. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I am genuinely sorry. I reported and moved on.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

I will.

Awesome. Hopefully you'll come back refreshed and better than ever. Ya seem like cool people, who doesn't seem to back away from a debate over political differences, bro. Good luck

 

[-Arcadia-]

There cannot be a market of ideas when posting left means you're trolled out of the forum. Positions are exceptionally entrenched and stubborn refusal to concede even the most minor of points is a reality, when it comes to left vs right. Something that over time I've become guilty for, as well.

You could not be more disingenuous, lol. How many times have we been through this line of thought now?

If your idea of debate or discussion is to put your fingers in your ear, and continue yelling whatever, instead of engaging with criticism of your points, it is, as previously mentioned, no wonder you're struggling here.

I don't think putting a blanket ban on trolling people, no matter whether -Arcadia- believes they deserve to be trolled or not, is heavy handed moderation. No one wants another reset and I'm a socialdemocrat.

On the contrary, I was here, and that's exactly what lead to Reset and Proto-Reset. Thin-skinned people that couldn't take responsibility for themselves, demanding moderation step in.

What you propose is a merry first step on that journey, and an objective reduction of Gaf's quality and freedom. You propose that all ideas should be treated the same, regardless of merit, and even something as simple and fun as a Spongebob dancing gif should be banned.

That isn't Gaf. That's the beginning of Era.

I don't want to relitigate anything from politics, try a heel turn and go hard left for 6 months and see what happens. Suddenly trolling doesn't seem as bad when you're being trolled on a daily basis.

And I'm done with the conversation about the contents of politics.

Why are you going hard left? Try going hard right, and see how well that works out for you. As I pointed out, in yet another criticism of your posts, which you never, ever address, Trump will be elected stans have been mocked mercilessly on this board.

How about you focus on quality content, from a leftist perspective, which I again mentioned to you, the disingenuous brick wall, and see how that goes for you?

Any answer? Knock knock.

I am genuinely sorry. I reported and moved on.

Sudden amnesia, but you sure were happy to post about your threats of violence everywhere. I genuinely hope they find it, so I can salvage some of my opinion of you.

 

[Papa]

Please understand Bitmap Frogs has had his well being threatened due to his political views on here. So he's relayed to me. So maybe there is something to that board being waaay to hostile to certain users.

Your recollection means diddly squat given that it's based entirely on his claims, i.e. a single source.

 

[Papa]

I will.



I honestly don't recall. I saw it, I reported and moved on because I didn't want to dwell on it. I wish I could be of more help.

I've always thought that keeping a list of grudges is petty and unbecoming...





Keep your line open, amigo.

If you can't/won't bring receipts, don't play the victim card to try to elicit empathy and tilt people to your side by default.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

What you propose is a merry first step on that journey, and an objective reduction of Gaf's quality and freedom. You propose that all ideas should be treated the same, regardless of merit, and even something as simple and fun as a Spongebob dancing gif should be banned..

Turning GAF into /b/ lite is your idea of quality and freedom? And somehow selective and mod-approved trolling is the way to preserve quality? And you keep ignoring the rest of the posts as if that was a simple example?

Also nice class act there, replying after I commit to leave politics behind

Sudden amnesia

I've given mods what they need to find it.

If you're unhappy you can trawl my posting history, since it's another of your approved trolling methods you should be practiced in the art.

I'm done now, post whatever you want.

 

[EviLore]

Our report search function searches by the person reported, not the person submitting the report, so we can't pull it up and won't look through three months worth of reports. It's going to fall to you to find it if you want to discuss the matter further.

 

[-Arcadia-]

Turning GAF into /b/ lite is your idea of quality and freedom? And somehow selective and mod-approved trolling is the way to preserve quality? And you keep ignoring the rest of the posts as if that was a simple example?

Worry not. Your other examples are ridiculous too. I'm focusing on the one to truly drive home how absurd what you are trying to do, is.

Again, you demonstrate a complete inability, likely willingly, to engage with what's being said. Who proposed 4Chan? Is that how you see Gaf now?

I am defending the system, the system that has worked for years, before you began to cry, of posts receiving replies based on merit, with mods reinforcing, and judging on a case by case basis, to make sure it never goes too far.

Also nice class act there, replying after I commit to leave politics behind

Right after you tagged me in? Can you do anything but lie?

I've given mods what they need to find it.

If you're unhappy you can trawl my posting history, since it's another of your approved trolling methods you should be practiced in the art.

I'll pass. I have a pretty good understanding of you and your reception on Gaf, especially now.

 

[-Arcadia-]

I'd actually like to push for Bitmap to be moderated more harshly.

Disingenuous posting is against the TOS, and he seems committed to an approach that neither adds anything to Gaf, never creates or accepts meaningful discussion, and at worst, actively disrupts the forum.

He's right. There's indeed a problem here preventing civilized political discussion from going forward, and I think we've correctly identified the origin.

 

[Evangelion Unit-01]

I don't want to relitigate anything from politics, try a heel turn and go hard left for 6 months and see what happens. Suddenly trolling doesn't seem as bad when you're being trolled on a daily basis.

And I'm done with the conversation about the contents of politics.

If you don't want to re-litigate arguments you've had in Politics then don't come in here to complain about what is being said in Politics. Your argument is that you've been bullied but your behavior does not differ from your bullies. Either the behavior is acceptable or it isn't and that cuts both ways. Cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Sort out the threat claim with the mods. I think it would be best if we all moved on. Nobody is any better for an argument about a forum post on the internet.

 

[Lionel Richie]

So... If I draw a picture of myself LAUGHING MY ASS OFF at that ridiculous argument the DSP dude decided to die with.

 

[EviLore]

 

[Soapy Wooder]

its like herdin' cats... on to the short bus where they belong

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

Happy Easter

 

[Lionel Richie]

If DSP is back, can we get OutrageousFacts freed from his prison as well? He'll stay away from that shit as well or I'll fucking hunt him down in Germany myself to deliver him to the feds.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

If DSP is back, can we get OutrageousFacts freed from his prison as well? He'll stay away from that shit as well or I'll fucking hunt him down in Germany myself to deliver him to the feds.

 

[Lionel Richie]

 

[bender]

Our report search function searches by the person reported, not the person submitting the report, so we can't pull it up and won't look through three months worth of reports. It's going to fall to you to find it if you want to discuss the matter further.

A shame. My reports are comedy gold.

 

[nush]

A shame. My reports are comedy gold.

They probably seal your material for the ban messages.

 

[bender]

They probably seal your material for the ban messages.

Sadly, teezzy is still breathing.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Sadly, teezzy is still breathing.

For now