BlackOlivesMatter
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Now to clean up the poop, literally.
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Elektro Demon
Banned
Snitches aren't allowed to post in this thread.
Threeshotgamer
Banned
We should come up with a bot that instabans anyone who uses the term "Sonygaf" more than 5 times in an 8 hour span.
donfonzie
Member
Nobody should feel the need to say that ever, but I think 3 times in 24 hours would be more appropriate.
BlackOlivesMatter
Banned
Jesus Christ would you grow the fuck up already.
Mista
Banned
But thats not a lie though
Threeshotgamer
Banned
But its constant use causes people like me who do prefer Sony to not take part in discussions because any Sony discussion devolves into console warring nonsense.
Mista
Banned
Thats also true unfortunately
MetalAlien
Banned
Gaf is Sony bias? I don't read gaming much.
There’s no discernible bias in the moderation (no one cares about console wars and people like all platforms, and the mods aim to be fair). Among the users, you’re never going to see equality of outcome among fan split, since there are more popular and less popular platforms.
GHG
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Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
I’ve barely noticed the console warring because I just don’t click on those threads. If I see “next gen” in the title, I skip past it. It’s just not interesting anymore.
Back in the old days, next gen discussions were exciting because the various consoles were so different and quite often featured interesting innovations in the hardware. But, nowadays it’s so boring and samey. How many teraflops will this black box have compared to the other black box?
Boring. Idgaf.
Bring back the Nintendo Revolution speculation days. Now, that was silly and exciting.
Back in the old days, next gen discussions were exciting because the various consoles were so different and quite often featured interesting innovations in the hardware. But, nowadays it’s so boring and samey. How many teraflops will this black box have compared to the other black box?
Boring. Idgaf.
Bring back the Nintendo Revolution speculation days. Now, that was silly and exciting.
brap
Banned
MetalAlien
Banned
Welcome back punk!
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Well, not if you weren’t born yet.
brap
Banned
When they showed those dildo remotes everybody stopped caring lmao.
Papa
Banned
I remember the Wii Music 5/10 meltdowns on GAF
brap
Banned
Jooxed
Gold Member
step away from my wiimote you peasant.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Yep. All 100 million+ of them.
Grand Theft Scratchy
Banned
Oh the irony... got yourself banned with a post insulting the Digital Foundry guy.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
demigod
being a complete and total cunt? Why I never...Dude is a genuine piece of shit in literally every single post I've ever seen him make, and the fact that he went and pushed John away simply because Demi can't stop being a console wars bitch for 5 minutes is flat out ridiculous. A 6 day ban for that shit is a slap on the wrist and in my honest opinion, this place would be better off without him.
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brap
Banned
100 million old people that don't even like video games. Correct.
brap
Banned
Read only the bold and guess which person in gaming xaero is talking about.
Dude is a genuine piece of shit in literally every single post I've ever seen him make, and the fact that he went and pushed John away simply because Demi can't stop being a console wars bitch for 5 minutes is flat out ridiculous. A 6 day ban for that shit is a slap on the wrist and in my honest opinion, this place would be better off without him.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I’ve barely noticed the console warring because I just don’t click on those threads. If I see “next gen” in the title, I skip past it. It’s just not interesting anymore.
Back in the old days, next gen discussions were exciting because the various consoles were so different and quite often featured interesting innovations in the hardware. But, nowadays it’s so boring and samey. How many teraflops will this black box have compared to the other black box?
Boring. Idgaf.
Bring back the Nintendo Revolution speculation days. Now, that was silly and exciting.
And it turned out to be a GameCube 1.5 with an air mouse.
brap
Banned
I'm sure all the little kids are enjoying this handheld along with their iphones. What's your point?
This is after 3 years.
The Wii was officially on the market for 11 years.
8 years to go.
Gamecube had better games though.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Nah, most people are clearly just having fun with it, even if I personally don't get the appeal. Others are just genuinely toxic and do nothing but shit up and derail any potential meaningful conversation regarding the upcoming console launches.
Dude is a genuine piece of shit in literally every single post I've ever seen him make, and the fact that he went and pushed John away simply because Demi can't stop being a console wars bitch for 5 minutes is flat out ridiculous. A 6 day ban for that shit is a slap on the wrist and in my honest opinion, this place would be better off without him.
This isn’t the thread to clap back in the same manner as the banned party.
And it’s 7 days.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Dude is a genuine piece of shit in literally every single post I've ever seen him make, and the fact that he went and pushed John away simply because Demi can't stop being a console wars bitch for 5 minutes is flat out ridiculous. A 6 day ban for that shit is a slap on the wrist and in my honest opinion, this place would be better off without him.
To some extent, I have patience for console warriors. It’s not much, but it’s there.
That goes out the window when they, in service of their almighty console, attack someone who does nothing but work hard to give gamers educative and interesting content, who’s also a genuinely nice person, and with respect, not really cut out to deal with ignorant scum like that.
I don’t even want bans for them. I want Evilore and the mod team to personally go to their houses, kick their asses, and put the footage on Worldstar.
Jooxed
Gold Member
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
You don’t wanna know what brap’s definition of splatoon is.I thought we were going to have a splatoon party together when you got back
Kagey K
Banned
Whitesnake
Banned
Were people mad because the game was bad or were they mad that reviewers were giving it low scores?
Papa
Banned
thelastword
Banned
I don't normally post in this thread, but I think I should say something in light of Demi's ban......Everyone knows that I don't advance insults, it's the only reason I have reported anyone on here despite what you have heard or were told, like when Bill O Rights said I often report people after my last ban. Truth is, I could careless about people's preference in console gaming, if anything I'll be the first to defend a man's right to prefer, we can discuss the objective stuff and even some of the subjective stuff, but I could never justify personal insults during these exchanges.....Yet, there is a clear difference between an insult and criticism...
Now in the past, DF has given us many reasons to post threads and discuss the underlying tech and performance, they along with the pioneer of youtube video analysis (lens of truth) have done lots to advance analysis of games and we can thank them for that......Yet the difference between DF and Lens of truth is that the '"What I prefer, or platform leanings" to objective analyses never permeated through because they gave absolutely no opinions, they only gave hard stats......
In light of that, it is clear to anyone that objective data presented can be debated, especially if it's wrong or faulty, subjective takes can be debated especially when it wish-washed with objective data...My meaning is, if you have a procedure on how a faceoff is won or lost be consistent at all times across the board, with all staff members...….You cant say framerate mattered more in 2013 and now say resolution matters more now, be consistent.....You cant have said 600p vs 640p was a world away and try to minimize 900 vs 1080p, its these things people pick up on in DF's writing and analyses that they criticize. People also criticize them when they get numerous objective and graphical features wrong, like resolutions, not getting features right or not acknowledging clear deficits in some games techwise, it's why you are doing an analysis...
Now the crux of the matter is this, if you are presenting tech details, you will get criticism, that's guaranteed especially if you have made several mistakes or people perceive a straight bias in your tone.....We can all declare that Leadbetter is filled with glee when he discusses XBOX, I have no problem with that, but from the time you sit on that tech chair I should not see that, I should see a balanced individual and that has been one of the criticisms directed at the owner of DF...…..And more specifically the case in question, Dark10x, I have no issues with Dark personally, but I do have some issues in some of the inconsistencies in his analyses, sometimes, but moreso DF in general......So in such cases I will let it out, but less so these days....
I think Dark10x is way too sensitive, it's like he wants nobody to criticize DF or his work, how can you expect that, it's just not feasible, so why go parading the entire internet to see what people who disagree with you has to say and get personal about it...….In many cases, people have criticized DF, not even his analyses and he has come knocking, farless when it's his, you just can't expect to have everyone agree with you, and you also cant dismiss everybody who opposes you or brings fourth valid criticism and brand them as people who hate you, as people who are toxic etc......Try to get better as you can see you have lots of support but what is wrong with getting better or less biased?
Again I say, I don't forward insults, and people want to silence me just for my opinions, yet if you care to go back, Dark has lodged many slings my way, yet I've never gotten personal with him, just criticized some inconsistent figures or tones of things he missed......Yet, there is something fundamentally wrong when you cant listen to another man's take or sit down and see what he's saying and concede a point or two....What are you getting angry for? And finally I also sympathize with people going through depression, but I think Dark10X has used this too much in the forum setting when het gets criticized, either that or he says he's going to leave, it's like he's saying that now to get overwhelming support, this is unfair to people who are just giving their take on a youtube video, we do not deserve to feel that we are the reason for you being ill, that type of projection is really not warranted...…...As it stands, DF content is on youtube, not on GAF, I don't get why he thinks he should defend criticism to DF everywhere...…..It's directed at DF not you personally, even if it's you video, it's directed at the inconsistencies, not you.....Just try to address them and you will hear less of said criticisms because people will be satisfied with your bettered standard....
Now in the past, DF has given us many reasons to post threads and discuss the underlying tech and performance, they along with the pioneer of youtube video analysis (lens of truth) have done lots to advance analysis of games and we can thank them for that......Yet the difference between DF and Lens of truth is that the '"What I prefer, or platform leanings" to objective analyses never permeated through because they gave absolutely no opinions, they only gave hard stats......
In light of that, it is clear to anyone that objective data presented can be debated, especially if it's wrong or faulty, subjective takes can be debated especially when it wish-washed with objective data...My meaning is, if you have a procedure on how a faceoff is won or lost be consistent at all times across the board, with all staff members...….You cant say framerate mattered more in 2013 and now say resolution matters more now, be consistent.....You cant have said 600p vs 640p was a world away and try to minimize 900 vs 1080p, its these things people pick up on in DF's writing and analyses that they criticize. People also criticize them when they get numerous objective and graphical features wrong, like resolutions, not getting features right or not acknowledging clear deficits in some games techwise, it's why you are doing an analysis...
Now the crux of the matter is this, if you are presenting tech details, you will get criticism, that's guaranteed especially if you have made several mistakes or people perceive a straight bias in your tone.....We can all declare that Leadbetter is filled with glee when he discusses XBOX, I have no problem with that, but from the time you sit on that tech chair I should not see that, I should see a balanced individual and that has been one of the criticisms directed at the owner of DF...…..And more specifically the case in question, Dark10x, I have no issues with Dark personally, but I do have some issues in some of the inconsistencies in his analyses, sometimes, but moreso DF in general......So in such cases I will let it out, but less so these days....
I think Dark10x is way too sensitive, it's like he wants nobody to criticize DF or his work, how can you expect that, it's just not feasible, so why go parading the entire internet to see what people who disagree with you has to say and get personal about it...….In many cases, people have criticized DF, not even his analyses and he has come knocking, farless when it's his, you just can't expect to have everyone agree with you, and you also cant dismiss everybody who opposes you or brings fourth valid criticism and brand them as people who hate you, as people who are toxic etc......Try to get better as you can see you have lots of support but what is wrong with getting better or less biased?
Again I say, I don't forward insults, and people want to silence me just for my opinions, yet if you care to go back, Dark has lodged many slings my way, yet I've never gotten personal with him, just criticized some inconsistent figures or tones of things he missed......Yet, there is something fundamentally wrong when you cant listen to another man's take or sit down and see what he's saying and concede a point or two....What are you getting angry for? And finally I also sympathize with people going through depression, but I think Dark10X has used this too much in the forum setting when het gets criticized, either that or he says he's going to leave, it's like he's saying that now to get overwhelming support, this is unfair to people who are just giving their take on a youtube video, we do not deserve to feel that we are the reason for you being ill, that type of projection is really not warranted...…...As it stands, DF content is on youtube, not on GAF, I don't get why he thinks he should defend criticism to DF everywhere...…..It's directed at DF not you personally, even if it's you video, it's directed at the inconsistencies, not you.....Just try to address them and you will hear less of said criticisms because people will be satisfied with your bettered standard....
Dr. Claus
Banned
There is a difference between criticism and being a cunt. Demigod was being a cunt. He could have stated his issues with DF in a more adult manner, but didn't. This isn't the first time he has done so either.
I do believe there is some discussion surrounding the ethics and biases of DF and the oversensitivity of Dark10x - however the way Demigod went about it? Nothing but childish and pathetic.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Ding.
The fact is, that every time a DF video goes up, and PS4/5 or Xbox One/Series X isn’t getting a rimjob the whole video, whichever fanbase has to act as obnoxious, moronic, and immature as possible.
I can cite two particular examples. Death Stranding, where DF was accused of being in the pocket for Sony, and the recent 9.2 teraflops stuff, where talking about a major rumor/leak, means they’re funded by Microsoft.
Not only is that shit absolutely infuriating when you just want to discuss the thoughtful content put forward, it’s also driving away an industry person that has an incredible amount to contribute to our next-gen discussion here.
Do people like Demi even remotely contribute anything good, let alone match his contribution?
I do agree that John isn’t equipped to handle it well, but that’s the point. Most sane, rational people aren’t equipped to handle this coming at them, after a video they put days of extremely hard, industry leading work into:
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
This isn't unique to demi in general. You have people on a daily basis trying to start something with others or outright calling them shit without any repercussions. It is very easy to form a mob and sick it on a user when they all pat their own back as well. We are NOT an echo chamber. His ban was warranted yes but have some tact people. We are better than that right? I'm sure the mods will perma/give him a longer ban if he continues to attack other members and I hope that goes for everybody that acts this way as well.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Demi is in the spotlight due to providing a perfect example of the kind of behavior that people like myself have been getting more and more angry with.
It’s a conversation that’s needed to happen in full for quite some time, and Demi is the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Coincidentally, I’m having a PM convo right now with a prolific, good thread creator that is giving serious thought to leaving Gaf due to people like these. So, you’ll have excuse my utter lack of sympathy for these clowns.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not knocking anybody about that itself. People that act like dicks relentlessly get a perma ban eventually.
Absolutely, again this isn't a demi exclusive issue though.
At the end of the day I hope he does what he has to do. If he isn't having fun anymore I don't blame him if he decides to go or take some time off. I understand that well myself.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Tell Ibiza and/or manabyte to stick around
-Arcadia-
Banned
Lol. Won’t say who, but yeah.
I basically told them I respected whatever they needed to do, and understood, but to figuratively ignore the retards and focus on the good posters here that enjoy and value their contributions, and how much I appreciated them.
Maybe advice worth reposting in general. The opinion of someone who console wars on the internet all day for a life, is worth exactly jack.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
I respect your confidentiality.
If it's Ibiza, tell him that if he leaves Gaf, there will be no more Butt Thread. So...
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
LOL. If there's one person to defend him on this site, not surprising it would be from you. All Sony fans seem to stick together.
You're going to lecture everyone on this board about what is and isn't banable based on this trash response to Darkx to his face? And Darkx wasn;t even talking to Demi. He was talking to someone else, and Demi crashes the party butting in.
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