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NeoGAF Camera Equipment Thread | MK II

If you wanna do that and you're already in manual mode, then just increase your shutter speed to begin with. What your exposure meter says at that moment is irrelevant ( in the context of saving time when shooting). You already know what settings to change. Just do it.
But I thought it was bad to severely underexpose something and fix it in post cause doing that just adds more noise.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
But I thought it was bad to severely underexpose something and fix it in post cause doing that just adds more noise.
Nonono, I'm talking about getting it right in camera. You're talking about the exposure compensation on there camera right? I'm saying it doesn't matter if you're shooting manual. Take picture, look at screen. Too dark? Open up. Too bright? Close down.
 

Groof

Junior Member
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Oh hi little guy!

The jelly is strong. Do get back with impressions!

I really want to upgrade from my 5R but I think I'm going to focus on getting a new lens first.
 
Nonono, I'm talking about getting it right in camera. You're talking about the exposure compensation on there camera right? I'm saying it doesn't matter if you're shooting manual. Take picture, look at screen. Too dark? Open up. Too bright? Close down.
That's all stuff I normally do any way since I pay attention to the exposure meter in my camera. The only time it's ever really "is the exposure right?" is when I'm using Aperture Priority. I barely use Shutter Priority cause I just don't what the heck is going on with that thing.
 

sneaky77

Member
How do you like it? Seems like a great performer for the price. Can't wait to put it through it's paces.

I got it a couple of days before a trip to the beach recently so I haven't done a lot, but I really liked it for the price, the focusing ring is pretty smooth to move and with the focus peaking it helps quite a bit. Also it does very good cutting down sun flare.
Here are a couple of shots with it, i am not great but maybe it will give you an idea.
https://flic.kr/p/F7Q2ZP
https://flic.kr/p/Fgepzx
 

Koriandrr

Member
Seriously considering going to Photokina in Cologne.
Olympus announcing stuff like prime lenses with f1 and the EM1 mkII just makes me wanna give them all my money. Still not full frame though. I am constantly thinking of switching it all for the A7, but honestly, olympus have such a great variety of quality lenses ...


Any other mirrorless bros out there feel like people are constantly underestimating you because of the size of your camera? I'm like, this is the future you guys. D:
 

Flo_Evans

Member
The jelly is strong. Do get back with impressions!

I really want to upgrade from my 5R but I think I'm going to focus on getting a new lens first.

Lot of the same as the a7s ii.

Didn't shoot many photos yet (no RAW support in LR yet, sony converter is dreadful) video seems the same. A touch more diffraction stopped all the way down due to higher pixel density.

Sad to see the combined memory card/battery slot, no headphone jack? less custom buttons mean more diving into "the menu".

AF for stills seems excellent, worthless for video. This is not a big deal as most video producing people are used to manual focusing but sony for some reason continues to make this as difficult as possible with horrible focus peaking and a soft magnification, on top of a generally unpleasant LCD.

Noise/ISO performance seems on par with other recent sony sensors - fanfuckintastic. Not as great as the a7s ii obviously.

Built in flash seems like a joke, haven't really actually tried it. Kit lens also seems to be of questionable quality.
 
Lot of the same as the a7s ii.

Didn't shoot many photos yet (no RAW support in LR yet, sony converter is dreadful) video seems the same. A touch more diffraction stopped all the way down due to higher pixel density.

Sad to see the combined memory card/battery slot, no headphone jack? less custom buttons mean more diving into "the menu".

AF for stills seems excellent, worthless for video. This is not a big deal as most video producing people are used to manual focusing but sony for some reason continues to make this as difficult as possible with horrible focus peaking and a soft magnification, on top of a generally unpleasant LCD.

Noise/ISO performance seems on par with other recent sony sensors - fanfuckintastic. Not as great as the a7s ii obviously.

Built in flash seems like a joke, haven't really actually tried it. Kit lens also seems to be of questionable quality.

I think the focus peaking would be awesome if they were to use the phase detection bit. Would be pretty sweet to not have to rely on the iffy contrast detection.
 

Herbs

Banned
Looking to pass along my x100s. Not getting as much use out of it since my XT-1 has taken over as my traveling camera. I have both the TCL and WCL converters. Also a Match Thumbs Up thumb rest for the flash bracket and little odds and ends. Everything is silver and boxed and complete and about 6 extra batteries I think. Quite the little bundle. Hit me up via PM if you're interested. I'll send some pics your way to evaluate.
 

Koriandrr

Member
Here I am, bidding on an Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 on ebay, second hand, thinking I'll get a good bargain, next thing you know, 3 days before the bid even ends, the price is already the same as a brand new one.


Can't even trust ebay for good deals anymore. WHY PEOPLE, WHY?! I just don't get it.
 
Here I am, bidding on an Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 on ebay, second hand, thinking I'll get a good bargain, next thing you know, 3 days before the bid even ends, the price is already the same as a brand new one.


Can't even trust ebay for good deals anymore. WHY PEOPLE, WHY?! I just don't get it.
I don't even bid. If the buy now ain't lower I don't even bother. Contacting the seller to see if he can add a buy now option can help too.
 

RuGalz

Member
Here I am, bidding on an Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 on ebay, second hand, thinking I'll get a good bargain, next thing you know, 3 days before the bid even ends, the price is already the same as a brand new one.


Can't even trust ebay for good deals anymore. WHY PEOPLE, WHY?! I just don't get it.

Sometimes it could be the case where the buyer is overseas and the prices are much better in the US.
 

RuGalz

Member
Hmm worth a shot!! Will give it a try. Thanks :)

Though that's far from a fool proof method to avoid import taxes.

Yea it's not guaranteed especially if the sender claim the value to be larger than a certain amount, depending on the laws of destination. Usually if you buy from Asia they will claim that it's only worth $50 for an expensive item...

Lots of sellers refuse to label them as gifts.

Haven't ran into one tbh.
 

snaffles

Member
Hmm worth a shot!! Will give it a try. Thanks :)

You are potentially screwing yourself over doing this if anything is wrong with the item when it arrives and you have been provided a false value on the customs form. I have never had it go bad for me but it certainly can and does.
 
I was looking at Minolta 35mm cameras and found one with the coolest feature ever! Edit: Minolta Maxxum 7
brightnessdisplay.jpg


Why can't my modern DSLR's have something like this to judge your highlights and shadows. Yes, I do know about the histogram and highlight clipping warnings cameras have now, but that zone system screen is awesome.
 

Groof

Junior Member
Lot of the same as the a7s ii.

Didn't shoot many photos yet (no RAW support in LR yet, sony converter is dreadful) video seems the same. A touch more diffraction stopped all the way down due to higher pixel density.

Sad to see the combined memory card/battery slot, no headphone jack? less custom buttons mean more diving into "the menu".

AF for stills seems excellent, worthless for video. This is not a big deal as most video producing people are used to manual focusing but sony for some reason continues to make this as difficult as possible with horrible focus peaking and a soft magnification, on top of a generally unpleasant LCD.

Noise/ISO performance seems on par with other recent sony sensors - fanfuckintastic. Not as great as the a7s ii obviously.

Built in flash seems like a joke, haven't really actually tried it. Kit lens also seems to be of questionable quality.

Thanks for your impressions! For all the hubbub about the improved video it seems to fall quite flat reading a lot of impressions. Good thing I'm not into videography.

How is the EVF? If you have any experience with the a6000 how do they compare?
 

Ty4on

Member
I was looking at Minolta 35mm cameras and found one with the coolest feature ever! Edit: Minolta Maxxum 7
brightnessdisplay.jpg


Why can't my modern DSLR's have something like this to judge your highlights and shadows. Yes, I do know about the histogram and highlight clipping warnings cameras have now, but that zone system screen is awesome.
I know. The 7 was really awesome with tons of nifty features.
The exposure comp dial was dual sided with 1/3 stop on one side and 1/2 on the other. Right below it was the flash comp.
It had an "STF" mode that would take multiple exposures at different apertures to simulate the bokeh of those expensive lenses. The bokeh "balls" grow as the aperture gets bigger and ideally you want the edges to be soft so this would add bokeh from progressively smaller apertures to brighten the inner circles and make the edges more diffuse.
You could switch film mid roll and jump to a specific frame. You could jump back and forth at any time for multiple exposures.
There were nine AF points so the directional pad had a button for every focus point. You could then select lock to lock your selection.
I think it has wireless TTL (off the film so no preflash) flash, but I know it has wireless high speed synch and the communications were all made by the onboard flash. Obviously not as good as radio flash and limited to 1/60 outside of high speed sync, but a nifty and affordable solution.

Really though, what is so cool about the 7 is Minolta took all of their issues to heart with overly automated push button interfaces and put every function on a dial. I wish there was more of that when Nikon and Canon barely modify their interfaces while the otherwise innovative Sony have barely improved the button layout on their mirrorless cameras. Fuji is the only one I can think of that break some ground.
An example of a real game changer would be the first camera without a two step shutter because it's made for back button focus.

Edit: I kinda forgot about Pentax. They're in a similar position and able to experiment like the green button.
 

Flo_Evans

Member
Thanks for your impressions! For all the hubbub about the improved video it seems to fall quite flat reading a lot of impressions. Good thing I'm not into videography.

How is the EVF? If you have any experience with the a6000 how do they compare?

EVF seems quite good although small. A little hard to see it all (I wear glasses) I never tried an a6000. I still primarily shoot stills on my D810 with a fantastic FF optical finder though so I have never really been hot on any EVF.

The video quality is great don't get me wrong, it is just a little hard to use effectively. I think if you have not used external monitors with really great peaking and high res screens it is OK. The only niggle on the video quality is it somehow has worse rolling shutter than the A7sii! This is usually not a huge deal for most video production but depending on what you are shooting can be a bitch.
 

Eiolon

Member
1. What is your budget budget?
$800 or under - lower the better obviously

2. Main purpose of the camera?
I will be doing lots of international travel this year. I would like something that can capture images better than a cell phone camera, specifically with zoomed in images, night shots and anything involving bright lights or motion.

3. What form factor is most appealing to you?
Not really

4. Will you be investing in the camera? (buying more stuff for it later)
I wouldn't have a problem with that.

5. Any cameras you've used before or liked?
N/A
 
Here's the x100s kit I want to sell. Peruse it and if you're interested, hit me up. $850 shipped. Best deal you'll see for this much x100s kit. I guarantee.

I want to sell my X100s and get a X70.

But I broke the EVF/OVF switch. I guess I am stuck with it. :(
 
1. What is your budget budget?
$800 or under - lower the better obviously

2. Main purpose of the camera?
I will be doing lots of international travel this year. I would like something that can capture images better than a cell phone camera, specifically with zoomed in images, night shots and anything involving bright lights or motion.

3. What form factor is most appealing to you?
Not really

4. Will you be investing in the camera? (buying more stuff for it later)
I wouldn't have a problem with that.

5. Any cameras you've used before or liked?
N/A

Doesn't sound like you have any specific requirement. Just get the best selling packing in your price range, Canon Rebel kit, Nikon D5300 kit, Sony A6k kit, RX1004 etc etc
 
1. What is your budget budget?
$800 or under - lower the better obviously

2. Main purpose of the camera?
I will be doing lots of international travel this year. I would like something that can capture images better than a cell phone camera, specifically with zoomed in images, night shots and anything involving bright lights or motion.

3. What form factor is most appealing to you?
Not really

4. Will you be investing in the camera? (buying more stuff for it later)
I wouldn't have a problem with that.

5. Any cameras you've used before or liked?
N/A

For camera, one of the a5000, a5100, or a6000. The a5100/5000 are the "lower end" APSC Sony cameras, but photo wise they'll take basically the same image as the a6000. The a6000 (easily IMO) justifies its higher price tag by being overall a much nicer package -- faster camera, easier to control, viewfinder, external flash, etc. Basically, if it's *just* for this trip, you can get away with the a5000. If you think you might enjoy using an advanced camera, a6000 is the way to go.

For lens, you're wanting a good chunk of range here -- close range, "normal" lenses, and then also a zoom with reach. My recommendation is to try and get the 35mm 1.8, which will give you awesome low light and be great as a "walking around" lens, and then the 55-210mm lens. The 55-210 won't be too fantastic at low light (or even iffy light), BUT it does give you a lot of reach, very easily -- you won't find yourself regretting having it on for anything that isn't close to you. Having both of these will pretty much cover you for all your use cases (except long range low light I guess but that costs MONEH)
If you can't get both of those lenses, the kit lens should do nicely enough for trip photos, but it *will* suffer heavily in the low light department compared to the 35mm.
 
So these showed up at my doorstep yesterday:



Got them from Herbs here on the forum so if he's selling some stuff, I can guarantee y'all that it'll be good.

That Nikon F with FTn finder has a pretty interesting sight... I pulled it out since the battery for the light meter is dead, out comes out are a pair of two PX625 mercury batteries which are ancient and illegal as of 20 years ago lol. So this tells me a few things, the previous owner before Herbs installed the batteries before the feds banned them or he had a supply of them, or the body potentially sat unused for many years.

So this brings me to a question, where the hell can I find PX625 mercury batteries? I asked my buddy that traveled all over the US with an F body where he gets his mercury batteries and of course the Philippines still sells mercury batteries so he has a few in stock. For the moment, I'm thinking of picking up a Weincell battery just so I can test out the light meter and if it works I'll start thinking about recalibrating it to a modern battery or get a battery adapter.

The EL2 on the other hand looks like it'll be awesome. It too needs a new battery but it's just a 28A and they're available almost everywhere so I'm pretty excited to shoot and see what how it works.
 

Herbs

Banned
So these showed up at my doorstep yesterday:



Got them from Herbs here on the forum so if he's selling some stuff, I can guarantee y'all that it'll be good.

That Nikon F with FTn finder has a pretty interesting sight... I pulled it out since the battery for the light meter is dead, out comes out are a pair of two PX625 mercury batteries which are ancient and illegal as of 20 years ago lol. So this tells me a few things, the previous owner before Herbs installed the batteries before the feds banned them or he had a supply of them, or the body potentially sat unused for many years.

So this brings me to a question, where the hell can I find PX625 mercury batteries? I asked my buddy that traveled all over the US with an F body where he gets his mercury batteries and of course the Philippines still sells mercury batteries so he has a few in stock. For the moment, I'm thinking of picking up a Weincell battery just so I can test out the light meter and if it works I'll start thinking about recalibrating it to a modern battery or get a battery adapter.

The EL2 on the other hand looks like it'll be awesome. It too needs a new battery but it's just a 28A and they're available almost everywhere so I'm pretty excited to shoot and see what how it works.

Thanks for the vote of confidence! Definitely do some research on the batteries. I'm sure there are options to not have to resort to mercury ones. generally speaking I've never had issues replacing batteries in now defunct types. Just need to find the right ones.
 
So these showed up at my doorstep yesterday:



Got them from Herbs here on the forum so if he's selling some stuff, I can guarantee y'all that it'll be good.

That Nikon F with FTn finder has a pretty interesting sight... I pulled it out since the battery for the light meter is dead, out comes out are a pair of two PX625 mercury batteries which are ancient and illegal as of 20 years ago lol. So this tells me a few things, the previous owner before Herbs installed the batteries before the feds banned them or he had a supply of them, or the body potentially sat unused for many years.

So this brings me to a question, where the hell can I find PX625 mercury batteries? I asked my buddy that traveled all over the US with an F body where he gets his mercury batteries and of course the Philippines still sells mercury batteries so he has a few in stock. For the moment, I'm thinking of picking up a Weincell battery just so I can test out the light meter and if it works I'll start thinking about recalibrating it to a modern battery or get a battery adapter.

The EL2 on the other hand looks like it'll be awesome. It too needs a new battery but it's just a 28A and they're available almost everywhere so I'm pretty excited to shoot and see what how it works.

I googled PX625 and found a bunch of alternative batteries. I suggest looking into those instead of resorting to mercury.
 
Seriously considering going to Photokina in Cologne.
Olympus announcing stuff like prime lenses with f1 and the EM1 mkII just makes me wanna give them all my money. Still not full frame though. I am constantly thinking of switching it all for the A7, but honestly, olympus have such a great variety of quality lenses ...


Any other mirrorless bros out there feel like people are constantly underestimating you because of the size of your camera? I'm like, this is the future you guys. D:

I love having a smaller camera (currently EM5 Mark II) and people seem a lot more curious in whether it's a film camera. Sony has been doing some great stuff and after finding out I only owed $100 on my taxes instead of the multiple thousands I expected, I came close to buying an A7R II. However, 3 things kept me from making the jump.

1) I can attest to the Olympus weather-sealing being fantastic. The tear downs of the A7R II scare me. It's simply not sealed and Sony stopped listing weather resistant as a feature of the body.

2) I've got a wiggly 4 month old and greater depth of field is actually a help when trying to get her whole face in focus.

3) There's still a big gap in lens size and accessories across the lineup. The Panasonic 14mm pancake is bitingly sharp in the center and weighs as much as most full frame lens caps do. The Olympus flashes are tiny compared to full frame versions and are wireless to boot.
 
Thanks for the vote of confidence! Definitely do some research on the batteries. I'm sure there are options to not have to resort to mercury ones. generally speaking I've never had issues replacing batteries in now defunct types. Just need to find the right ones.

Yeah, PX625 is the hardest to replace since it heavily relies on voltage instead of capacity like most other devices.

I googled PX625 and found a bunch of alternative batteries. I suggest looking into those instead of resorting to mercury.

The problem with the alternative batteries is that the voltage drops unlike mercury batteries. And if the voltage drops, that means the light meter would read as inaccurate. The other big issue with alternative batteries is that they last faaar less than they should, the most popular alt, the Weincell, apparently only lasts for a week unused since it has to run at a high voltage. Of course you can take it out of the finder and hope it'll hold the charge but then again, it's kind of an involved process to take out the viewfinder off the body, screw the battery in, then restore the finder.

And you really can't resort to mercury batteries unless you're trying to break the law lol. There's one sketchy ass Russian dude online selling the mercury batteries and his method, as he explains himself on his website which is hilariously stupid, is that he packs a lot of similar looking cells and since customs wouldn't be bothered to look at each cell and figure out which one is illegal or not, it can get through.
 
Yeah, PX625 is the hardest to replace since it heavily relies on voltage instead of capacity like most other devices.

The problem with the alternative batteries is that the voltage drops unlike mercury batteries. And if the voltage drops, that means the light meter would read as inaccurate. The other big issue with alternative batteries is that they last faaar less than they should, the most popular alt, the Weincell, apparently only lasts for a week unused since it has to run at a high voltage. Of course you can take it out of the finder and hope it'll hold the charge but then again, it's kind of an involved process to take out the viewfinder off the body, screw the battery in, then restore the finder.

And you really can't resort to mercury batteries unless you're trying to break the law lol. There's one sketchy ass Russian dude online selling the mercury batteries and his method, as he explains himself on his website which is hilariously stupid, is that he packs a lot of similar looking cells and since customs wouldn't be bothered to look at each cell and figure out which one is illegal or not, it can get through.
Ah that sucks. It sounds like the battery replacement procedure for those is also pretty annoying.
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I recently acquired a bunch of old photo stuff from a family member. Pic incoming.

EDIT: Mostly cheap consumer equipment but the Zoom 8 and lights look pretty nice and seem to work perfectly. They also happen to be two of the three things in near mint condition.
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Those ancient sealed film packs are hardly light tight and probably useless.
 

Herbs

Banned
That sucks. It sounds like the battery replacement procedure for those is also pretty annoying.
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I recently acquired a bunch of old photo stuff from a family member. Pic incoming.

EDIT: Mostly cheap consumer equipment but the Zoom 8 and lights look pretty nice and seem to work perfectly. They also happen to be two of the three things in near mint condition.
25847532401_d727dedb6e_h.jpg

Those ancient sealed film packs are hardly light tight and probably useless.

The Land Camera is good but Fuji just announced they're discontinuing the film for that.
 
Ah that sucks. It sounds like the battery replacement procedure for those is also pretty annoying.

Not necessarily. But you're gonna have to remember whether there's batteries in there or not. And if you don't, you're screwed lol.

The good thing is that these bodies aren't gonna be used for my work or whatever, but solely as a fun thing to use when I'm out and about. I've got a N8008 that I use for film shoots and while that thing is ugly compared to the silver bodies, it works fantastic for shoots so I'm happy with it.

Don't the Zinc air batteries work OK as 625 replacements apart from short lifespan?

Yes they do. But from what I've read you'll get about a week and half's worth of steady voltage(meaning the light meter is accurate) then a little after that, the voltage starts dropping and then you're gonna start getting inaccurate readings so yeah. The crappy thing about the Zinc air cells is that only Weincell produces the exact 625 replacement and many reviews online state they're utter shit(not enough voltage even fresh out of the box, shorter lifespan than expected, etc.). And there's also adapters that'll let you use a physically smaller sized modern battery but you're still gonna experience a short lifespan.

It seems like the best route is to recalibrate the light meter for a modern battery and since it seems like the camera hasn't been used at all for more than a few years, I'm probably just gonna do that instead.
 

Herbs

Banned
Well, just took the plunge on the XPro2. Will get it and see how I feel about it and then sell my XT-1 if I dig it.
 
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