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Dennis · Jan 11, 2011

127. Two Worlds II 11

Two Worlds II got robbed!

I agree Amir0x, GAF failed hard!

Durante · Jan 11, 2011

cooljeanius said:
Is there a Mac version? So far trying to open it just lets me view it in Xcode...

AFAIK ruby should be pre-installed on recent versions of OSX. Just try to open the console in the directory where you extracted the archive and write "ruby similarusers.rb [username]"

Darkflight · Jan 11, 2011

Code:

Users with similar selection to Darkflight:
  1.     cr_blah_blah ( 134) [ [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=30#1464 ]
  2.  ThingontheFloor ( 127) [ [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=24#1156 ]
  3.              WJD ( 126) [ [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=1#15 ]
  4.       McBradders ( 124) [ [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=4#185 ]
  5.   blackMamba1187 ( 124) [ [url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=4#163 ]

Total similarity score: 42276

Mine v (Gaf's) votes "1(12),2(2),3(1),4(15),5(7),6(62),7(4),8(14),9(3),10(29)"

brandonh83 · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
At least Super Meat Boy made top ten, and not that other artsy-fuckshit sacred cow LIMBO.

Wow, that makes me feel better about not getting to play Limbo.

Zombie James · Jan 11, 2011

Users with similar selection to Zombie James:

1. Phaethon0017 ( 99) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=24#1193 ]
2. DarkUSS ( 98) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=22#1072 ]
3. Callibretto ( 89) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=25#1248 ]
4. Mooreberg ( 88) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=3#114 ]
5. kamorra ( 88) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=18#853 ]

Total similarity score: 26973

Good work, guys!

Amir0x · Jan 11, 2011

DennisK4 said:
Two Worlds II got robbed!

I agree Amir0x, GAF failed hard!

At least there's an excuse for Two Worlds II since it wasn't out in the bulk of GAF's territories yet.

What's the excuse for Heavy Rain? "Oh hey a game that's only about story has a terrible story. But I like what it says about the industry, though!" :lol

Jucksalbe · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
There's the Ruby installer. It's very simple to use, but I just ran the script for you anyway:
...
Total similarity score: 11236[/code]Lowest total similarity I've seen so far, congrats

Thanks. Figured as much, most of my games are very low on that ranking. I wonder how much it would be if I took out my votes for Bayonetta and Mario Galaxy 2. :lol

Das-J · Jan 11, 2011

Thx for the 2nd Place MMO vote guys - You have great taste!

A Human Becoming · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
Heavy Rain made top ten?

Fucking christ, GAFers with no taste. You've failed GAF again.

At least Super Meat Boy made top ten, and not that other artsy-fuckshit sacred cow LIMBO.

Corto · Jan 11, 2011

Thanks Durante! This script of yours can be used to detect alt accounts... hehehehehe

ultron87 · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
What's the excuse for Heavy Rain? "Oh hey a game that's only about story has a terrible story. But I like what it says about the industry, though!" :lol

That part where you have to

cut off your finger

is pretty good?

That's about all I got really to explain it.

Amir0x · Jan 11, 2011

ICallItFutile said:

One can only be amused at such a stark lack of taste. Maybe mixed with a sense of pity, at those so narrative-deprived that Heavy Rain passes muster.

Felix Lighter · Jan 11, 2011

I'm curious where I'd end up with that script. My picks were pretty boring though.

SolidusDave · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
Heavy Rain made top ten?

Fucking christ, GAFers with no taste. You've failed GAF again.

kinda clear now who has no taste ;D

I can't get that ruby thing to work, where do i put my user name in? when I run it, it just runs and then displays no name and list obviously.

DMeisterJ · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
Heavy Rain made top ten?

Fucking christ, GAFers with no taste. You've failed GAF again.

At least Super Meat Boy made top ten, and not that other artsy-fuckshit sacred cow LIMBO.

I was so waiting for your post. I knew you'd have something to say about the awesome Heavy Rain making the top 10. I just had no idea you'd insult all of us who have it on our list by saying we have no taste and have failed GAF.

Might I suggest a game of Heavy Rain to show you the cause and effect of your actions?

jett · Jan 11, 2011

Thanks for the hard work.

I couldn't be more indifferent to the results. I guess I'd like it if VVVVVV and Pac-Man:CE DX were higher.

ultron87 · Jan 11, 2011

DMeisterJ said:
Might I suggest a game of Heavy Rain to show you the cause and effect of your actions?

So only the actions I take in the last half hour or so will affect anything?

Castle Doctrine · Jan 11, 2011

Amazing job by Timetokill, Cheesemeister, and whoever else contributed. With all the breakdowns there's some nice juicy stats to look at.

Amir0x · Jan 11, 2011

DMeisterJ said:
I was so waiting for your post. I knew you'd have something to say about the awesome Heavy Rain making the top 10. I just had no idea you'd insult all of us who have it on our list by saying we have no taste and have failed GAF.

Might I suggest a game of Heavy Rain to show you the cause and effect of your actions?

Suggesting I play Heavy Rain to show the cause and effect of my actions is like suggesting I listen to Blink 182 to understand the depth and nuance possible in music.

There is no cause and effect in Heavy Rain, only the hilarious pretense of such things. And of course, all that shitty writing.

But you did like FFXIII too, right? That about sums it up. Shitty stories are you thing.

NullPointer · Jan 11, 2011

ultron87 said:
That part where you have to

cut off your finger

is pretty good?

That's about all I got really to explain it.

Standing at a doorway

pistol in hand, shaking, with no option except to knock at the door, knowing you're being asked to kill some random stranger (which I had no intention of doing)

was one of the most agonizing and poignant moments I've had in gaming all year. Heavy Rain had several of those moments. And while some could write it off for plotholes or reduce it by calling it just a sequence of QTEs, the way it handled fail conditions and turned those into branching storylines was incredibly well done, even if not perfect. People talk about having personalized pathways through games all the time, but I've never seen the idea work nearly as well as Heavy Rain. When comparing stories with my friends it was like we played completely different games.

On the other hand, try as I might I just couldn't find the fun part of Mass Effect 2, even though I loved the first game. But hey, different strokes and all that.

Windom Earle · Jan 11, 2011

Kinda shitty overall IMO

ME2, really???
Heavy Rain in top 10???
Fallout: NV not in top 10???

GAF hivemind is starting to suck.

At least Nier made it, there is a god.

MarshMellow96 · Jan 11, 2011

The people have spoken... The bastards.

I didn't take much interest in last years thread but you guys really go to town. A comprehensive victory over the majority of other game sites when it comes to this sort of stuff.

Haunted · Jan 11, 2011

Thanks for all the great work, Cheesemeister and timetokill. It's much appreciated. Well organised thread and pretty much smooth sailing throughout.

I'm ok with the top 3.

I'm most disappointed in GAF for snubbing Monster Hunter Tri. I have two/three other small titles on my list that aren't anywhere near the top, but I expected as much.

Bayonetta and Heavy Rain are both way too high, imo.

Ballot Length Distribution
The number of entries per ballot.
Data is presented as: % of ballots (raw number)

10 titles: 68.19% (626)
9 titles: 3.38% (31)
8 titles: 4.90% (45)
7 titles: 4.03% (37)
6 titles: 4.03% (37)
5 titles: 7.30% (67)
4 titles: 3.27% (30)
3 titles: 2.83% (26)
2 titles: 1.31% (12)
1 title: 0.76% (7)

Thanks for that data point in particular.

Discussion about tiered systems with less than 10 votes officially laid to rest. It's obvious that GAF wants its 10 votes (minimum!)

Amir0x · Jan 11, 2011

NullPointer said:
Standing at a doorway

pistol in hand, shaking, with no option except to knock at the door, knowing you're being asked to kill some random stranger (which I had no intention of doing)

was one of the most agonizing and poignant moments I've had in gaming all year. Heavy Rain had several of those moments. And while some could write it off for plotholes or reduce it by calling it just a sequence of QTEs, the way it handled fail conditions and turned those into branching storylines was incredibly well done, even if not perfect. People talk about having personalized pathways through games all the time, but I've never seen the idea work nearly as well as Heavy Rain. When comparing stories with my friends it was like we played completely different games.

until you realize you can do whatever you want since there are literally no consequences for your actions no matter what you decide

it was so awesome :rock:

HamPster PamPster · Jan 11, 2011

Kirby's Epic Perfect Yarn Game should have been higher

Somewhat suprised at Singularity's placement. Seemed like it was gaining traction as more people played it and I caught a youtube review for it a few days ago and was very impressed. Its certainly on my list of games to play soon

DennisK4 said:
Two Worlds II got robbed!

I agree Amir0x, GAF failed hard!

NA Gaf is still trying to figure out what "Jerry Approved" means

adversesolutions · Jan 11, 2011

What part of the script do we need to change to our usernames?

Durante · Jan 11, 2011

This took my computer a short while, but here it is:

Code:

Users with highest total similarity:
  1.                brb ( 47884) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=5#243 ]
  2.             tenz0r ( 47146) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=26#1289 ]
  3.            gdt5016 ( 46182) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=9#417 ]
  4.     blackMamba1187 ( 46083) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=4#163 ]
  5.            sdornan ( 46073) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=22#1068 ]

Users with lowest total similarity:
  1.             Olorin ( 1178) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=10#479 ]
  2.        cooljeanius ( 1239) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=8#374 ]
  3.  HamPster PamPster ( 1392) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=26#1262 ]
  4.  hosannainexcelsis ( 1625) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=28#1368 ]
  5. The Take Out Bandit ( 2026) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=1#12 ]

Note that The Take Out Bandit isn't even conforming to the name length limit I expected in the ouput format. Truly a rebel.

Olorin mentioned 5 games I had never even heard about, that's pretty interesting.

adversesolutions said:
What part of the script do we need to change to our usernames?

None, you just supply it as a command line parameter. That is, open a console in the directory and type this:
ruby similarusers.rb yourusernamehere

DMeisterJ · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
But you did like FFXIII too, right? That about sums it up. Shitty stories are you thing.

Yeah, cause the only reason you can like a game is the story. God forbid that the music, setting, graphics, or gameplay dictate someones dis/like of a game. I don't like shitty stories in gaming, I just don't think HR had one. FFXIII's left a lot to be desired, but the aforementioned reasons make up for the story.

HamPster PamPster · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
This took my computer a short while, but here it is:

Olorin mentioned 5 games I had never even heard about, that's pretty interesting.

Can we still be friends?

Someone want to run me? I'm at work

Edit: Sorry is this similarity to you or to gaf in general?

Haunted · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
I just wrote a script that tells you the top 5 GotY lists that were most similar to yours (or to anyone's really, the starting user name is a parameter). The numbers in parentheses are a similarity rating (higher = more similar).

As a side effect it also tells you how much of a conformist you are (higher total similarity score = higher conformance to the GAF consensus).

Here's the script + data file:
http://www.metaclassofnil.com/gaf/gafgoty2011-compare.zip

Wow, that's a pretty brilliant idea! I don't know wtf a ruby is, so if you could run this once for me (or maybe put it online after all? This is such a good idea that I believe many people would be interested in this!), I'd love it.

NullPointer · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
until you realize you can do whatever you want since there are literally no consequences for your actions no matter what you decide

Yeah, we definitely played two different games.

And because of this thread I'm definitely picking up a copy of Vanquish. Thanks GAF.

Amir0x · Jan 11, 2011

It's nice to see Amnesia get the merit award for horror. Not that it had much competition, but it was the greatest horror game of the last ten years.

NullPointer said:
Yeah, we definitely played two different games.

No, we didn't. There literally is no consequences whether you kill the guy or not. The outcome of the game is the same. The police don't even acknowledge that Ethan is now a savage murderer.

Einbroch · Jan 11, 2011

Of course Darksiders had to be 26th.

Of course.

Budr · Jan 11, 2011

HamPster PamPster said:
Someone want to run me? I'm at work

Code:

Users with similar selection to HamPster PamPster:
  1.     Penguin nerd (  25) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=26#1253 ]
  2. viciouskillersquirrel (  24) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=25#1234 ]
  3.   makingmusic476 (  24) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=28#1377 ]
  4. Allan Holdsworth (  24) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=26#1278 ]
  5.        Dave Long (  23) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=26#1259 ]

Total similarity score: 1392

Durante · Jan 11, 2011

Haunted said:
Wow, that's a pretty brilliant idea! I don't know wtf a ruby is, so if you could run this once for me (or maybe put it online after all? This is such a good idea that I believe many people would be interested in this!), I'd love it.

My current web host doesn't support ruby scripts, and I really don't want to rewrite it in a different language. I think I'll just let it write the list for everyone in a huge text file and upload it. In the meantime:

Code:

Users with similar selection to Haunted:
  1.         topramen ( 122) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=19#919 ]
  2.          samoset (  97) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=8#365 ]
  3. SpacePirate Ridley (  94) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=19#930 ]
  4.             Alex (  93) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=12#590 ]
  5.  I Push Fat Kids (  93) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=5#240 ]

Total similarity score: 32976

HamPster PamPster said:
Edit: Sorry is this similarity to you or to gaf in general?

That's to GAF in general. Congratulations on maintaining your individuality! :lol

brandonh83 · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
Not that it had much competition, but it was the greatest horror game of the last ten years.

Silent Hill 2 won't be 10 until September.

adversesolutions · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
None, you just supply it as a command line parameter. That is, open a console in the directory and type this:
ruby similarusers.rb yourusernamehere

Thanks for that. Unfortunately I get an invalid byte sequence error...(ArgumentError)
from similarusers.rb:11 in 'foreach'
from similarusers.rb:11:in '<main>'

Durante · Jan 11, 2011

adversesolutions said:
Thanks for that. Unfortunately I get an invalid byte sequence error...(ArgumentError)
from similarusers.rb:11 in 'foreach'
from similarusers.rb:11:in '<main>'

Just wait for me to upload the full txt file, same goes for everyone else who has trouble running the script.

Haunted · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
My current web host doesn't support ruby scripts, and I really don't want to rewrite it in a different language. I think I'll just let it write the list for everyone in a huge text file and upload it. In the meanwhile:

Code:

Users with similar selection to Haunted: 1. topramen ( 122) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=19#919 ] 2. samoset ( 97) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=8#365 ] 3. SpacePirate Ridley ( 94) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=19#930 ] 4. Alex ( 93) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=12#590 ] 5. I Push Fat Kids ( 93) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=5#240 ] Total similarity score: 32976

Thank you my friend.

Off to find these guys (only know SPR and Kevtones) and congratulate them on their impeccable taste.

Lostconfused · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
Note that The Take Out Bandit isn't even conforming to the name length limit I expected in the ouput format. Truly a rebel.

His list doesn't have a single obscure game and I even played 4 of them.

Amir0x · Jan 11, 2011

brandonh83 said:
Silent Hill 2 won't be 10 until September.

It is at least tied with Silent Hill 2.

Ricker · Jan 11, 2011

What are all results? do they include the honorable mentions? because Majin the forsaken Kingdom should at least have a score of 1 since I mentioned the game in my most honorable,unless it`s there somewhere and I don`t see it.

Great job guys,overall I can`t argue with the top games,except maybe Super Meatboy,some great games in 2010.

Corto · Jan 11, 2011

Ricker said:
What are all results? do they include the honorable mentions? because Majin the forsaken Kingdom should at least have a score of 1 since I mentioned the game in my most honorable,unless it`s there somewhere and I don`t see it.

Great job guys,overall I can`t argue with the top games,except maybe Super Meatboy,some great games in 2010.

Honorable mentions didn't get any points. Only honorable mentions.

Boney · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
My current web host doesn't support ruby scripts, and I really don't want to rewrite it in a different language. I think I'll just let it write the list for everyone in a huge text file and upload it. In the meantime:

That's to GAF in general. Congratulations on maintaining your individuality! :lol

Oh man! I wanna see the wierdos like me too!

Ricker · Jan 11, 2011

Corto said:
Honorable mentions didn't get any points. Only honorable mentions.

:lol Nevermind,I see it now,it actually got 7 votes,which is great,recount aborted :lol

timetokill · Jan 11, 2011

Hey, nice work with that, Durante. Very cool

hosannainexcelsis · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:

This took my computer a short while, but here it is:

Code:

Users with highest total similarity:
  1.                brb ( 47884) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=5#243 ]
  2.             tenz0r ( 47146) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=26#1289 ]
  3.            gdt5016 ( 46182) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=9#417 ]
  4.     blackMamba1187 ( 46083) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=4#163 ]
  5.            sdornan ( 46073) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=22#1068 ]

Users with lowest total similarity:
  1.             Olorin ( 1178) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=10#479 ]
  2.        cooljeanius ( 1239) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=8#374 ]
  3.  HamPster PamPster ( 1392) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=26#1262 ]
  4.  hosannainexcelsis ( 1625) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=28#1368 ]
  5. The Take Out Bandit ( 2026) [ http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416386&page=1#12 ]

Note that The Take Out Bandit isn't even conforming to the name length limit I expected in the ouput format. Truly a rebel.

Olorin mentioned 5 games I had never even heard about, that's pretty interesting.

So I guess I'm the fourth weirdest person on GAF. Awesome! It certainly says something that 999 was the highest-ranked game on my list.

I'm very curious what the script would turn out for people similar to me, but since I'm on my iPod until tomorrow I'll have to wait for that text file. Great idea, Durante!

seat · Jan 11, 2011

Amir0x said:
Heavy Rain made top ten?

Fucking christ, GAFers with no taste. You've failed GAF again.

At least Super Meat Boy made top ten, and not that other artsy-fuckshit sacred cow LIMBO.

Couldn't agree with your post more, Amir0x. I'm surprised how much I agree with you these days.

I'm really pleased Super Meat Boy made the list too. Considering the game was mostly constructed by two guys in some apartment, the title is truly an underdog success story. This is especially true considering Gran Turismo 5 comes directly after it on the list (snicker). A strong vision on a shoestring budget can still be a powerful thing.

TheRagnCajun · Jan 11, 2011

Not a highlight year for gaming judging by that list.

Olorin · Jan 11, 2011

Durante said:
Olorin mentioned 5 games I had never even heard about, that's pretty interesting.

Whoo, I had a feeling I'd be at the top of that list. DSiWare doesn't seem to be very popular.

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