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Neogaf Rock/Indie/Alt Music Thread (RockGAF?)
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Duh!
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
Oh! I just got into his music this week. Either/Or was the album that turned me onto his music.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Man, Hundred Reasons are great.
Dunno how I didn't get into them earlier.
Dunno how I didn't get into them earlier.
Red Blaster
Member
did everyone stop listening to rock/indie/alt or something, thread's been dead for a few days
red house painters' album ocean beach is gud, listen to it and agree with me
red house painters' album ocean beach is gud, listen to it and agree with me
Jesus, I probably haven't listened to them since 2000. I used to love the song Summer Dress.
...And Spotify has it, awesome. I remember really digging this album.
beato_angelico
Member
ok, let's get the thread moving with one of those questions...
favourite The Cure album?
Figure 8 has to be my favorite of his.
equippedwithtowel
Member
ShinobiFist
Banned
brianjones
Member
album shreDZ
if you like ty segall i would recommend Night Beats
their new album sonic bloom
their debut is good too
What?
And will check Night Beats then. I love almost everything Ty Segall made so far. Mikal Cronin and Thee Oh Sees are great too.
...Did I talk about this record yet, what a solid followup to a seemingly insurmountably bleek debut. This is the aural form of watching snuff films on a tiny portable tube at a hobo pit in the middle of Hell's Kitchen.
Any highlights on youtube(or elsewhere) you'd pick out?
Shorty11857
Member
So guys question, what is the best streaming service for personalised radio.
Spotify seems to always pick from a limited pool and it's mobile app doesn't keep track of likes and dislikes
Google Play seems to not care what you like or dislike and will keep playing songs you down vote
Is there one that is significantly better? I'd also love if I could just give me a personalised radio based on all genres not just Alternative or the band name I pick
Spotify seems to always pick from a limited pool and it's mobile app doesn't keep track of likes and dislikes
Google Play seems to not care what you like or dislike and will keep playing songs you down vote
Is there one that is significantly better? I'd also love if I could just give me a personalised radio based on all genres not just Alternative or the band name I pick
The albums great as well!
zorlaczerohero
Banned
Been an Indie fan since the 80's, my main genre's were punk/Indie, but also into Rock, Metal and Dance. Happy to see some British staples mentioned in here!
Grew up on The Smiths, The Cure, Stone Roses, The wedding present, James etc
Favourite band ever would probably be Carter USM. Seen them live I don't know how many times. Alongside Morrisey and Dave Gedge, I reckon Jim Bob is one of the best Indie lyricists ever. His solo stuff is also brilliant, he has a new album coming out this month.
This is from his last Album Goffam which was brilliant, well worth a listen. Sort of a concept album, blending a fictional comic book world with real life. I have a soft spot for music with a little social commentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA9eaM4mbKM
Also a big fan of Scroobius Pip, sort of spoken word/Rap but moves through a rock Indie feel in parts. Also a brilliant lyricist. And as far as I'm concerned Indie doesn't always have to be about Guitars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ8TzuqpSQs
Grew up on The Smiths, The Cure, Stone Roses, The wedding present, James etc
Favourite band ever would probably be Carter USM. Seen them live I don't know how many times. Alongside Morrisey and Dave Gedge, I reckon Jim Bob is one of the best Indie lyricists ever. His solo stuff is also brilliant, he has a new album coming out this month.
This is from his last Album Goffam which was brilliant, well worth a listen. Sort of a concept album, blending a fictional comic book world with real life. I have a soft spot for music with a little social commentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA9eaM4mbKM
Also a big fan of Scroobius Pip, sort of spoken word/Rap but moves through a rock Indie feel in parts. Also a brilliant lyricist. And as far as I'm concerned Indie doesn't always have to be about Guitars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ8TzuqpSQs
That's great that you are getting into him. Everyone should listen to Elliott Smith. I once had a girlfriend who hated him; things didn't go so well with her... You should listen to New Moon. That album has so many goods on it. I've recently kind of decided that From a basement on a hill is also one of my favourites. His self titled and Either/Or are what got me into him though. Christian Brothers man.
Also, Steamlord posted a list of his favourite shoegaze bands and Swirlies was on the list. And Sweet Trip. These are two amazing albums that everyone on here should listen to.
One more thing.
Has anyone here noticed an overwhelming hatred for Morrissey based solely on how "sad" (I put quotes around this because I don't get it) his songs sound? I love The Smiths (haven't really listened to much of Morrissey's solo stuff) and have for quite a while now but I've never thought the music sounded sad. It's some of the happier music I listen to in my opinion. I always find myself wondering if I'm hearing the same thing that other people are when I play my music at work or somewhere where it can be heard by others because their reactions are so bizarre to me. They'll refer songs that I find to be more up beat as "wrist slitting music" and sometimes I'll just say "Fuck it, I'm going to play my weird shit that I know you guy won't like" and then they'll like it. I get so confused. I played Tame Impala's Innerspeaker at work a while ago and everyone FREAKED out. Like they started getting really mad at me yelling "What the fuck is this shit?! Is this guy in the Muppits or something?!" And I thought that album was a bit more normal and up beat and would be alright at work. Do my ears work differently than other peoples?
Has anyone here noticed an overwhelming hatred for Morrissey based solely on how "sad" (I put quotes around this because I don't get it) his songs sound? I love The Smiths (haven't really listened to much of Morrissey's solo stuff) and have for quite a while now but I've never thought the music sounded sad. It's some of the happier music I listen to in my opinion. I always find myself wondering if I'm hearing the same thing that other people are when I play my music at work or somewhere where it can be heard by others because their reactions are so bizarre to me. They'll refer songs that I find to be more up beat as "wrist slitting music" and sometimes I'll just say "Fuck it, I'm going to play my weird shit that I know you guy won't like" and then they'll like it. I get so confused. I played Tame Impala's Innerspeaker at work a while ago and everyone FREAKED out. Like they started getting really mad at me yelling "What the fuck is this shit?! Is this guy in the Muppits or something?!" And I thought that album was a bit more normal and up beat and would be alright at work. Do my ears work differently than other peoples?
That's a pretty good question.
Pornography is by far my favourite Cure album, also probably one of my favourite albums in general. It's one of the few albums that I' ve heard where every single song is close to perfection. It's too dark and heavy for some people I guess, but it also has a huge following.
Other top Cure albums...
2. Disintegration
3. Faith
4. Seventeen Seconds
5. Three Imaginary Boys
6. Head on the Door
As for the rest Wish has some of their best songs (From the edge of the deep green sea, To wish impossible things, Open, Apart) but otherwise its on the weak side. Also I believe that Bloodflowers was their last kinda decent album.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
So I've started an internet band. We plan to sound like Reuben mixed with Bomb the Music Industry. I don't know how it'll work.
Anyone want to drum for us?
Anyone want to drum for us?
beato_angelico
Member
what you describe didn't happen to me personally, but people who are not music fans are often conservative and don't like something which may be slightly left-of-centre. It's still called "alternative music" for a reason.
Just got through a listen-through of Relationship of Command from At the Drive-In.
Nice stuff.
This hasn't happened to me with Morissey in particular, but I play stuff where people get the wrong impression of the artists or the songs. This is notable with stuff like Thursday ("why is this band so angry all the time, did their parents not buy them an iPod" or Interpol. I feel like sometimes with people who aren't that into music there's an expectation that an artist has a uniform style or emotional mood.
This is how some people I knew thought that every single Interpol song was depressing, in part due to Paul Banks' voice. It's sort of a weird concept to grasp--the difference not just between enthusiasts and more casual listeners, but being able to differentiate between a difference taste and limited exposure to music. I've often had that "man, don't see how people think this music is so bad" feeling
Nice stuff.
This hasn't happened to me with Morissey in particular, but I play stuff where people get the wrong impression of the artists or the songs. This is notable with stuff like Thursday ("why is this band so angry all the time, did their parents not buy them an iPod" or Interpol. I feel like sometimes with people who aren't that into music there's an expectation that an artist has a uniform style or emotional mood.
This is how some people I knew thought that every single Interpol song was depressing, in part due to Paul Banks' voice. It's sort of a weird concept to grasp--the difference not just between enthusiasts and more casual listeners, but being able to differentiate between a difference taste and limited exposure to music. I've often had that "man, don't see how people think this music is so bad" feeling
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I have an overwhelming hatred for Morrissey because of his stupid, aimless voice.
Just got through a listen-through of Relationship of Command from At the Drive-In.
Nice stuff.
The balls on that album. Cosmonaut and Pattern Against User are incredible.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
I can't hate Morrisey (well, his music, he's a bit of a dick), purely because he wrote a song called You're The One For Me, Fatty, which is just kind of hilarious.
Also I've just realised I have no idea what Girlfriend In A Coma actually sounds like, I always just think of the lyrics to the tune of Tiptoe Through The Tulips
Also I've just realised I have no idea what Girlfriend In A Coma actually sounds like, I always just think of the lyrics to the tune of Tiptoe Through The Tulips
A different version of "Christian Brothers" by Elliott with Heatmiser has been found
http://www.oregonlive.com/music/index.ssf/2013/10/elliott_smith_heatmiser_christ.html
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
They have their moments. You have to wade through an awful lot of meandering shit though.
Depends on the album. Frances the Mute is dark and twisted on a mammoth scale, and practically every moment contributes to the fantastic oppression.
Then you have shit like Octahedron where they really are just fucking around.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Oh btw did you know that Jamie Lenman has some new stuff out soon? I saw him at my rehearsal studio last week, and yes he does look like that all the time now. Kinda gutted because we got offered to play a secret show with him but were already booked (by my wife no less, so couldn't cancel).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGHHZdqywNA
Also, I played with a band last week called Bastard Eye Scream, pretty much a mix of Blood Brothers and Mars Volta. Tiiiiiight: http://bastardeyescream.bandcamp.com/
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
I know what you mean, I tried playing the self titled Broken Social Scene record in my office once and was told to turn it off because it was too 'heavy', to which I had no answer. I think most people just don't have a developed enough vocabulary to describe and talk about music. If distortion (or even drums) are present, then it's 'heavy', with no regard for intent or mood.
Basically, people are idiots. But we knew that already.
chris121580
Member
The new Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr. album is so damn good. Horrible band name but they make great music. Streaming here, second album down:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/arts/music/pressplay.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/arts/music/pressplay.html?_r=0
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
Yeah, my friend who's super into Xtra Mile posted it on Facebook a month or so ago. It's pretty...weird. Sux that you didn't get to play with him. I noticed on the way back from work today that he's playing here soon, definitely gonna hit that up.
these guys are pretty great, they been working on a new album
So Many Dynamos- Artifacts of Sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1QZoMQAmr8
So Many Dynamos- Artifacts of Sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1QZoMQAmr8
So for those still stuck in the 90s, both The Dismemberment Plan and Toad the Wet Sprocket released new albums today (Uncanney Valley and New Constellation, respectively).
The Dismemberment Plan - Waiting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elANShT6etY
Toad the Wet Sprocket - New Constellation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo1LunUF6gQ
The Dismemberment Plan - Waiting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elANShT6etY
Toad the Wet Sprocket - New Constellation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo1LunUF6gQ
Red Blaster
Member
yuck's new album is on spotify
feels more like a "lets copy a random 90s band each track" than the first album (rebirth is a shameless mbv rip as is glow and behold a grand prix-era teenage fanclub rip), then again they did lose their frontman so eh
feels more like a "lets copy a random 90s band each track" than the first album (rebirth is a shameless mbv rip as is glow and behold a grand prix-era teenage fanclub rip), then again they did lose their frontman so eh
Ya these guys are so damn talented. I've been trying to spread the word about them, but they aren't for everyone =(
chris121580
Member
Oh man, talk about satisfying my craving for more Constantines. This is great!
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
Any new Jangle Pop lately? It's hard listening to the same REM songs over and over again.
Check out Mark Mulcahy's new album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggi_2Vy8KOw
His older stuff with Miracle Legion and Polaris is worth checking out, too.
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
Huh, I'll give this one a shot!
I would definitely put REM up there with The Smiths, at least Murmur. I don't understand why people don't listen to that album instead of Losing My Religion again and again.
They're great, and one of the first bands I really got into. I'm annoyed when they tend to get shoved into that whole "Oh they're a pretentious hipster band from Portland oh ho ho" thing because they're great.
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
Hell of a list for source material and inspiration, too.
"On their website, the group claim that their official drink is Orangina, that they love the video-game Bioshock and "adore" the bands Norfolk & Western, Explosions In The Sky, The Postal Service, The Long Winters, Death Cab for Cutie, Dokken, Ulrich Schnauss, El Ten Eleven, The Shins, The Octopus Project, Electrelane, Camera Obscura, Clearlake, The Thermals, Modest Mouse, Swords and Earlimart. The band's official biography, keeping up their reputation for grandiloquence, also describes how they met in a Turkish bath. A footnote following the biography claims, "The Decemberists travel exclusively by Dr. Herring's Brand Dirigible Balloons." Colin Meloy has listed Anne Briggs, Nic Jones, and Shirley Collins who led the 1960s British folk revival as major influences on The Hazards of Love. Meloy has also confessed a "slavish love" for Morrissey, one of his principal influences.[2] The band has also cited their liking for Siouxsie and the Banshees,[3] and the pop tunes of R.E.M. and XTC. The band also draws inspiration from British and Irish folk music.[4]"
Bioshock?! Haha, that's awesome.
Might as well list some of my favorite albums to give an idea of what I like. I'm not sure what counts as rock, kind of depends on your definition.
In no particular order:-Sparks - Lil Beethoven (If I wasn't just listing one album per artist you could also throw in Hello Young Lovers, Kimono My House, Indiscreet, and Propaganda. Let this be my one plug for a band that should be classic but isn't because not enough people listen to them)
-Brian Eno - Before and After Science (Brian Eno tends to get slagged off a lot for his ambient work, but his first four albums are brilliant glam, new wave, and experimental pop)
-Kate Bush - The Dreaming (Haha this album is wacky)
-Yellow Magic Orchestra - BGM (YMO decided to stop being goofy, buckle down, and make a really amazing electronica/synthpop album. Does synthpop count as rock?)
-King Crimson - Discipline (Intricate Talking Heads-ish New Wave and the only Crimson album with a sense of humor! Just baaaarely inches out Red for me.)
I feel like there should be something newer on here, and there are a lot of contenders (Primus is a good 'un), but I can't quite make it.
Re: Jangle pop. My two recommendations would be Guadalcanal Diary and Toad The Wet Sprocket. Both kind of dumb names, both pretty good, both REM-adjacent but with their own identities.