NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread
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never heard that before, and never noticed issue with any additional audio chip games on mine.
the av famicom is a pretty low-key purchase. compared to the original famicom or the disk system, there's not much to stress over; the video out uses the standard nintendo connector from snes and later, the controller port accepts NES pads. in fact i'd recommend using an nes dogbone controller, as the famicom version's cord is too short unless you're sitting on top of the thing.
oh, its expansion port (for the JP zapper, 3D goggles, etc) has a dust cover that often gets lost, so check for that if it matters to you.
Eraser_Arcade
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I just tried doing that, but it didn't seem to make a difference. Thank you for your help though.
djSyndrome
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I bought an AV Famicom just for CV3/AD and had no issues whatsoever. Sounded great.
IrishNinja
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you're in for a goddamn treat m'man
D.Lo
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Not really a massive 'issue' but the audio mix between regular and expansion audio (from chips of FDS) is slightly different on the OG Fami and the AV Fami. So if you're used to one, and then hear the other, it sounds off. But neither sound 'bad', depending on perspective you could say the AV fame 'corrected' the audio mix. Basically it sounds slightly more muted because the expansion audio, which is typically the more aggressive part of the soundtrack, is slightly lower.
Original Fami mix is considered the 'true' mix however, since it was the one that was out when the games were released.
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How tough is it to rgb mod an original NES?
D.Lo
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The hype is real, I've posted these previous but here's my before and after shots...
sixteen-bit
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After see my SNES and MegaDrive with RGB output I would love to be able to do that with my NES, but I don't have the skills to mod it
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drhankmccoyphd
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Wasn't sure if there was a better place to post this (is there a dedicated Game & Watch thread?)
Does anyone know anything about non-nintendo Japanese LCD handheld games? I found one of these loose at an estate sale. Sort of looked like a Game & Watch to me so I picked it up not expecting it to be worth anything or really even work. Still have to get some watch batteries to test it out.
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Does anyone know anything about non-nintendo Japanese LCD handheld games? I found one of these loose at an estate sale. Sort of looked like a Game & Watch to me so I picked it up not expecting it to be worth anything or really even work. Still have to get some watch batteries to test it out.
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Wasn't sure if there was a better place to post this (is there a dedicated Game & Watch thread?)
Does anyone know anything about non-nintendo Japanese LCD handheld games? I found one of these loose at an estate sale. Sort of looked like a Game & Watch to me so I picked it up not expecting it to be worth anything or really even work. Still have to get some watch batteries to test it out.
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Did you test it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/80s-INNO-HI...061?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eded979cd
D.Lo
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Lol like in the Simpsons when Bart plays his 'household chores' game instead of doing his chores.
Start a thread! Or someone should.
Generally non-Nintendo LCD games are vastly lower quality, at least in terms of build.
I would love to collect Game and Watches, but they are ridiculously expensive in good condition.
Start a thread! Or someone should.
Generally non-Nintendo LCD games are vastly lower quality, at least in terms of build.
I would love to collect Game and Watches, but they are ridiculously expensive in good condition.
I used to have around a dozen of those at one point but all that remains are Super Mario Bros and a Zelda Game & Watch and I've been fence sitting removing those from the collection of stuff I have left.
I've been getting this itch to buy an old early 80s pinball machine and they'd take a bite out of the cost. They just sit out in the open looking pretty but I rarely put batteries in the things. They're fun but I never make the time, which is a problem with G&W stuff in general. They work great for very short bursts but are better off as a desk clock and alarm.
Also that blue construction LCD, it's not worth $100, yet not sure what it is worth because all the flippers ask that much on ebay but not one has sold in the active history on there.
I've been getting this itch to buy an old early 80s pinball machine and they'd take a bite out of the cost. They just sit out in the open looking pretty but I rarely put batteries in the things. They're fun but I never make the time, which is a problem with G&W stuff in general. They work great for very short bursts but are better off as a desk clock and alarm.
Also that blue construction LCD, it's not worth $100, yet not sure what it is worth because all the flippers ask that much on ebay but not one has sold in the active history on there.
D.Lo
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Yeah it's basically worth nothing unless someone has some nostalgia for that particular game because they had it as a kid. It's the equivalent of a pirate famicom cart basically.
dcx4610
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I'm looking to buy a Japanese AV Famicom HVC-101 if anyone has one to sell.
I'm trying to find one that is not yellowed and has 2 (dogbone) controllers, AV hookups and adapter.
eBay has quite a few but naturally all in Japan and mostly with stuff I don't want. If anyone has one to sell, please let me know.
I'm trying to find one that is not yellowed and has 2 (dogbone) controllers, AV hookups and adapter.
eBay has quite a few but naturally all in Japan and mostly with stuff I don't want. If anyone has one to sell, please let me know.
D.Lo
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Why not buy from Japan? I don't understand a fear of buying from overseas, and Japanese prices will be better than anyone who knows what they're doing world offer outside of Japan.
It will cost about $100 delivered for a console only. hit-japan has them on eBay all the time. You might be able to save $20 by watching a lot of auctions.
Also you likely don't want Japanese doggone controllers, they have very short leads.
RadarScope1
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Poking around on ebay and I found a Hudson Soft poster that has one of those Joycard controllers featured heavily in the center of the image.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-NE...630?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eded0a266
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-NE...630?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eded0a266
dcx4610
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Not really fear, it's just the 3+ week wait, communication issues and the hassle of a return it something doesn't work.
Half of the listings have bizarre descriptions I can't decipher...
As far as the dogbones, I'm just going to use extension cables.
D.Lo
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Airmail takes a week. EMS takes 2-3 days worldwide. If there's an issue, start a dispute case on Paypal.
I'll 'translate' what those mean:
Doesn't work on a TV that cannot support NTSC.
It has a scratch or crack somewhere, usually followed by...
Please look at the photographs for details of condition and where the scratch is.
It means it's slightly yellowed, but the pictures are not showing that as clearly.
Very hard.
I've been organizing my library and came across something curious:
The instruction manual for Crystalis is not the typical NES instruction manual size. It's significantly larger, and it's taller than it is wide. Initially I thought it might be an SNK thing, but I've seen the manual for Ikari III: The Rescue and it's the typical size.
Are there any other NES game manuals that are like this?
The instruction manual for Crystalis is not the typical NES instruction manual size. It's significantly larger, and it's taller than it is wide. Initially I thought it might be an SNK thing, but I've seen the manual for Ikari III: The Rescue and it's the typical size.
Are there any other NES game manuals that are like this?
Huggers
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Friend of Sonic
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There's something undeniable about the NES RGB. All of the consoles look great in RGB, but something about the NES is really eyepopping and wonderful. I don't know if it's the quality of the board, the simplistic nature of the graphics to begin with, or that we all grew up with RF or composite, but it really is breath taking when you first see it.
D.Lo
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It's a cleaner, stronger RGB than most stock consoles. Because it's a modern design.
The only comparable results from stock consoles pre-32-bit in my experience are Mega Drive, Master System and some Neo Geos. You can also get great RGB from modded SNES Mini and PC Engines, but that's also because they're modded.
All my consoles are RGB (except for my Twin Famicom) but the first time i fired up my NESRGB (the fact that it worked first time was a relief!) My Jaw just dropped. I was that hyped i was jumping around like a kid fist pumping the air.
Its kind of overwhelming as your then thinking what do i play first.. or i wonder what this looks like in RGB etc. Best mod i have ever done!
Its kind of overwhelming as your then thinking what do i play first.. or i wonder what this looks like in RGB etc. Best mod i have ever done!
Final Fantasy
I get stuff from Japan faster than I do from California, or anywhere in Europe. I also find Japanese sellers to FAR under-promise their wares.
It's an AV Famicom though, I think they're impossible to kill. I got one from Japan last summer with both dogbones for about $90, plus $30 shipping. It got to me in three days, and was much better than described.
Friend of Sonic
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This makes sense
I've had a handful of SNES Minis and currently have a 1Chip 02 SNES; the Minis all had the prominent "white line" and my 1Chip does not. I'd rank it on par with my Genesis for RGB, and it requires no modification. I've read that some people say the Mini is superior to the 1Chip, but I think all variances are based on the subtle differences with components from unit to unit. In my experience with three minis and two 1Chips, anyway. The 1Chip 01 had the same white bar, though not as severe as some some of the Minis. I'd also say my 1Chip 02 is sharper than anything else I've seen. Haven't tried a 1Chip 03, but those seem to be rarer than Hen's Teeth.
Damned impossible to find a good one though. Took me nearly a year: I really wanted the original SNES style from my childhood, despite the ugliness.
I've been organizing my library and came across something curious:
The instruction manual for Crystalis is not the typical NES instruction manual size. It's significantly larger, and it's taller than it is wide. Initially I thought it might be an SNK thing, but I've seen the manual for Ikari III: The Rescue and it's the typical size.
Are there any other NES game manuals that are like this?
Final Fantasy has a tall 80 page manual. Dragon Warrior III and IV have tall manuals too. NES Open Golf is like that as well on top of the Gun-Nac already mentioned.
GayForMaster
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The Hype is Real! Your in for a treat!
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Just wondering that the NESRGB board is true rgb...? I don't know if that's a good way to put it but I'm using a playchoice ppu and it makes whites into yellow. Just wondering if that rgb board is more faithful to the original pallate? If something like that exists then I'll probably sell my playchoice NES and get a new one for nesrgb modding.
The NESRGB board actually has three different palette options. One of which mimics the original composite palette and another that mimics the Playchoice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjHSPq33fX4
In this video, "Garish" is the Playchoice palette. "Improved" isn't across the board better than the original palette, I think it varies from game to game. You can install a switch that allows you to switch between the palettes on the fly.
Basically, there's no reason to senselessly murder Playchoices anymore.
El Pescado
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The Hype is Real! Your in for a treat!
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*Sigh*
I wish I knew more about the status of my Analogue NT. That looks really nice.
Yes, I'm aware a lot of people don't care for the NT.
GayForMaster
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Wow!!! That's amazing man... I need to get my hands on that mod. Who the heck thought of switching between 3 pallates that's amazing stuff!
I've been organizing my library and came across something curious:
The instruction manual for Crystalis is not the typical NES instruction manual size. It's significantly larger, and it's taller than it is wide. Initially I thought it might be an SNK thing, but I've seen the manual for Ikari III: The Rescue and it's the typical size.
Are there any other NES game manuals that are like this?
The Scandinavian Super Mario Bros. 3 manual is also like that.
D.Lo
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They didn't even put composite in to start with. The vast majority of TVs had no input for anything except RF in 1983, so there was no point thinking of video connectors or colour generation systems that would not be used. Sega's first two consoles didn't have RGB out either (they didn't even generate their colour in the RGB space at all). Heck until the mid 90s RGB was barely used anywhere but in Europe for any consoles.
The NES is hardest to get RGB from because while the computer uses the RGB space, the PPU generates a composite signal natively, not RGB that is then encoded to composite.
The first major system to actually have an RGB output is the Sega Mark III (from 1985), And it's not useable as-is, I've just done a big project to make it usable.
Ah that makes perfect sense, thanks for the well in depth explanation. It would had been cool though to have it from the start though.
The SMS in the US and Europe does RGB natively though, doesn't it? Even if the Mark III didn't?
D.Lo
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Having an RGB output in 1983 would sort of be like having an HDMI output on the Gamecube. Technically possible (on models from say 2003), but a complete waste of money for 99.9% of people who would have bought and used it over its lifetime.
The Mark III does have it natively, it's just not very usable without modding or doing this. The SMS does too, and it's internally amplified and the first good quality RGB output of a console. But that's already late 1986, and Sega's fourth console model since 1983, Nintendo was successful enough with their first cart based console to not have to release successors. Nintendo's second console didn't come until 1990, and it of course had native RGB out.
Holy crap, he still hasn't shipped any? Wow. I'm sorry man.