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new boxarts GTA:SA(post them)
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MrAngryFace
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Yeah, you ask the KKK and they'll tell you all about their close family values. Plus they get hats!
trippingmartian:
prejudice
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prejudice
1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
trippingmartian said:
seismologist
Banned
I'm sure the whole game doesn't take place in the ghetto.
It covers alot of territory including Las Vegas so there's probably some
mafia involvement too.
I think black kid working for the mafia would be a good plot. I'm not exactly into the whole
gansta theme either.
It covers alot of territory including Las Vegas so there's probably some
mafia involvement too.
I think black kid working for the mafia would be a good plot. I'm not exactly into the whole
gansta theme either.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
can't wait for this 
Late Stage Marxist
Member
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Late Stage Marxist
Member
For the last time we're not discussing REAL CRIME. We're talking about cinematics and video games. If you don't think that Boyz In Tha Hood is great for different reasons than The Godfather then you don't understand the conversation.IJoel said:
Kabuki Waq
Member
Im just wondering what new stuff can rockstar do on the rapidly aging ps2 hardware?
This game just seems like a Cash in to me.
then again the Spiderman game surprised me so maybe this will too.
This game just seems like a Cash in to me.
then again the Spiderman game surprised me so maybe this will too.
Late Stage Marxist
Member
You're a sensitive bunch.Bob White said:
btw where are the other box arts?
The Faceless Master
Member
so where are all the other boxarts?
Late Stage Marxist
Member
No, I said before that I like Goodfellas better than New Jack City. I didn't say New Jack City sucked, it's just that I have a preference for one sub-genre over the other.IJoel said:
seismologist
Banned
I'm just glad they're doing SOMETHING different.
At least this one looks to have some variety. There's nothing more samey to me than another mafia story (with wine and family gatherings).
At least this one looks to have some variety. There's nothing more samey to me than another mafia story (with wine and family gatherings).
You can glamourize the mafia - it becomes very entertaining and immersive.
'Gangsta' wars, however... not so easily. Working your way up and among the ranks in such a setting doesn't get me the least bit excited.
That has NOTHING to do with the colour of the character's skin. Not a fucking thing. It's the nature of the story and environments. Not at all desirable to me. I think a lot of people feel the same way, but they have trouble expressing themselves. ie, Culture - not the best word to choose because people can easily refute a supposed Italian Mafia culture and raise one for the Ghetto.
Many black people on this board take the argument to heart. As if it's a condemnation of who they are or what their race may represent. I, personally, don't intend it to be that way whatsoever. I really shouldn't have to defend my opinion like this, but it's fair that I try and explain.
'Gangsta' wars, however... not so easily. Working your way up and among the ranks in such a setting doesn't get me the least bit excited.
That has NOTHING to do with the colour of the character's skin. Not a fucking thing. It's the nature of the story and environments. Not at all desirable to me. I think a lot of people feel the same way, but they have trouble expressing themselves. ie, Culture - not the best word to choose because people can easily refute a supposed Italian Mafia culture and raise one for the Ghetto.
Many black people on this board take the argument to heart. As if it's a condemnation of who they are or what their race may represent. I, personally, don't intend it to be that way whatsoever. I really shouldn't have to defend my opinion like this, but it's fair that I try and explain.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
trippingmartian said:
ok...... but you are talking about opinion... which doesn't make you right at all... Now I would never say Boyz in the hood was a better movie than the Godfather... but Boyz in tha hood does shine light to how people were living during the late 80s early 90s in south central... a much realer look than anything written by Mario.... (love his work)
I think that both gang cultures have their own romantic draw to them... just Mob life is looked at and wrtten as "the guys who were stepped on and pushed back".... while inner-city gangs are always looked at and written about as a problem....
Late Stage Marxist
Member
But some people seem to think I'm trying to push my opinion, when really I'm just stating why it doesn't sound most appealing to me.
seismologist
Banned
Socreges said:
It's all about perception which people get from movies since hardly anyone here has experienced either culture. Just wait for some good movies glorifying inner city drug trade. Training Day comes close but it didn't focus too much on the criminal side.
MrAngryFace
Banned
trippingmartian needs to learn that GAF is always looking for a good fight.
Late Stage Marxist
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MrAngryFace said:
"Get him, boys!"
V
Vennt
Unconfirmed Member
looking MAF?
I can't wait to play this, Hell, if I'm lucky playing it long enough will cure me of my inability to jump and bring about a capability to recognise a beat
I really do hope they fully conquer the whole aiming deal though this time around, otherwise I may go for the PC version too.
Freeurn.
I can't wait to play this, Hell, if I'm lucky playing it long enough will cure me of my inability to jump and bring about a capability to recognise a beat
I really do hope they fully conquer the whole aiming deal though this time around, otherwise I may go for the PC version too.
Freeurn.
Late Stage Marxist
Member
Nonono look in the background. I'm the black car getting chased by the crazy white cars.DMczaf said:
Funny, you can find tons of references to "cultural heritage" in your so-called "ghetto" stories as well, if that's the criteria you're offering up. The importance of family, especially when one lives in a war zone, traditions involving food and fellowship - I can run from Boyz N The Hood through Set It Off and find these elements. It's there for anyone to see, if you bother to look.trippingmartian said:
Eh?
You're the one who smeared the black experience as ghetto, buddy. When you point that finger, there's four more pointing right back at you. If you're feeling the heat, you should.
MrAngryFace
Banned
Wal-Mart is "Ghetto", so SA isnt even an authentic ghetto experience to begin with!
Late Stage Marxist
Member
Show me the food wine and tradition! HAHA YOU LOSEbishoptl said:
MrAngryFace
Banned
OLIVE GARDEN IS MAFIA! AUTHENTIC ITALIAN CULTURE! NOO!
I've mentioned in the past that I wasn't as interested in the game's setting and was 'attacked'. People immediately assume the worst. It's not as if my posts have ever given the impression that this has to do with race.
I acknowledged "not so easily", not "impossible". I don't expect Rockstar to do an exceptional job in placing the main character in such an environment and perpetuate a thrilling ride to the top amongst hoods and whatnot.seismologist said:
I've seen Boyz in tha Hood, Menace II Society, Dead Presidents, to name a few. Excellent and emotional movies. But the things that made those movies great are not the same that made Scarface or the Godfathers great. The struggle to rise to the top against the bosses. City of God, though. That can be regarded as a ghetto movie, for sure, and was partially about one man's rise to the top and a constant struggle between two gangs. Yet, I personally saw nothing there that would make for an engaging trip in a videogame.
the "culture" and "heritage" you are reffering to is sicilian, they were the poor immigrants from sicily, all they ate is pasta with tomato sauce, because they couldnt afford other things. this is not sophisticated italian culture. the italians you see in mob movies are mostly sicilian...because they were the ones who mostly migrated here.
and they were pretty "ghetto" baby...not exactly descendants of michaelangelo or da vinci.
actual italian legacy and culture is far more sophisticated and rich, you dont see that in mob movies.
so basically your arguement is sorta false, from my understanding of history anyway...
V
Vennt
Unconfirmed Member
Blackace said:
hahaha, I think about 4 of us probably had the 'user options' open there, I'd nearly done it 10 or so posts back, but thought that you all should get to play with the mouse before the hammer dropped
He was doomed regardless
Freeburn.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Socreges said:
Naw that's not it at all... Who is to say...this culture is better than that culture... He wasn't banned until he started acting like someone's culture was better than another person's culture.. the men you are talking about just happened to be from the culture he was belittling
Kabuki Waq
Member
You know something is wrong with a thread when my obvious ps2 troll goes unnoticed