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New Dragon's Crown trailer

FINALBOSS said:
Don't forget that while the gameplay is beat'em up style, it's very much a deep deep RPG with tons of loot and such.
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The guy giving the demo put a lot of emphasis on the RPG mechanics, allowing us to level up a couple of times. The loot seemed pretty good too, though I am not sure if it actually makes a visual impact on your character (my guess is no). I asked him if the loot is all randomly generated and he said 'yes' so that got me even more excited. At the end of the dungeon, you have to identify the items you collected, which reminded me of Diablo (a good thing). It's like opening Christmas day presents. One thing I must say though, with all four players on screen things got a little chaotic with all the effects going on and I lost track of character a couple of times. That might just be me being a bad player, but the people I was with had the same thing happen. If I do end up getting this, I may just keep it to two players.

On the co-op side of things, the demo guy said that any number of players can play locally while also playing with people online, with excellent drop-in drop-out gameplay. That's pretty cool.
 
wookieofdoom said:
The guy giving the demo put a lot of emphasis on the RPG mechanics, allowing us to level up a couple of times. The loot seemed pretty good too, though I am not sure if it actually makes a visual impact on your character (my guess is no). I asked him if the loot is all randomly generated and he said 'yes' so that got me even more excited. At the end of the dungeon, you have to identify the items you collected, which reminded me of Diablo (a good thing). It's like opening Christmas day presents. One thing I must say though, with all four players on screen things got a little chaotic with all the effects going on and I lost track of character a couple of times. That might just be me being a bad player, but the people I was with had the same thing happen. If I do end up getting this, I may just keep to two players.

On the co-op side of things, the demo guy said that any number of players can play locally while also playing with people online, with excellent drop-in drop-out gameplay. That's pretty cool.
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Weapons, at least, are confirmed to make a visual impact.
 
wookieofdoom said:
On the co-op side of things, the demo guy said that any number of players can play locally while also playing with people online, with excellent drop-in drop-out gameplay. That's pretty cool.
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Wait, so you can play locally and online at the same time? Fantastic news.
 
The Vita version has online play, right? The guy at GameStop I talked to a few days ago said it had local multiplayer only, and I thought that sounded weird.
 
PlanetSmasher said:
The Vita version has online play, right? The guy at GameStop I talked to a few days ago said it had local multiplayer only, and I thought that sounded weird.
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Gamestop gonna Gamestop. The less you listen to their employees, the more informed you will be.

This is what I could dig up in a quick google search: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/07/dragons-crown-the-game-vita-and-ps3-deserves?page=2
IGN said:
The PS3 edition allows for drop-in/drop-out online play in addition to playing solo, while the Vita version allows for solo play and both online and ad-hoc multiplayer.
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Sadly, there is no cross-play between Vita and PS3 (cross saves though), but both versions can definitely play online. You will just be confined to a pool of Vita players if you are playing the Vita version.
 
Thanasis Deitus said:
Gamestop gonna Gamestop. The less you listen to their employees, the more informed you will be.

This is what I could dig up in a quick google search: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/07/dragons-crown-the-game-vita-and-ps3-deserves?page=2


Sadly, there is no cross-play between Vita and PS3 (cross saves though), but both versions can definitely play online. You will just be confined to a pool of Vita players if you are playing the Vita version.
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Confirmed by the official site, too.
 
Caerith said:
Vanillaware always stretch their games out with backtracking? Since when? There wasn't any backtracking in Odin Sphere, and you didn't even have tracks to back in Grim Grimoire, and there's been absolutely no indication that there will be backtracking in Dragon's Crown.
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I didn't put much time into GG, but Murasama and Odin Sphere had you going over the same areas over and over. Maybe we had different versions of the same games? ;p
 
I want to buy the digital version because I already have $20 on my account (though that may change if I preorder Ducktales Remastred).

On the other hand, I really want that artbook if I buy the physical copy.
 
SAB CA said:
I think the problem is that the focus in an RPG is on the story & character interaction, and in a Side Scrolling Hack 'n Slash, the focus is going to be the Fighting, no matter how in depth the other systems are.

I think 120 hours for either (in the way of most games created) sounds heavy handed, as a "complete all original content" tally, personally, because games don't naturally get created to HAVE that kind of content.

This doesn't mean they can't be enjoyed for this amount of times (My first 100 hr+ file in gaming was FF Tactics, I have 100+ hours per multiple characters in PSOv2, and I'm sure I spend 100+ hours in almost any fighter I play), but that's generally because a person has fallen for the game, and is playing it to perfection.

I do find it funny BEU's get blasted for Repetition SO MUCH FASTER than 2D fighters, for the simple fact that they offer similar Gameplay depth, especially now-a-days. The difference, of course is "one is VS humans, one is VS CPU", but I say I have equal amounts of fun with the best of each genre's combat systems.

I do think what we're seeing with Dragon's Crown is pretty unique, in that it seems like it's trying to prove that a 2D HnS / BeU is as good a gameplay system for an RPG, as Turn-Based, Grid-Based, Single Player Action RPG, or Diablo-Style overhead 3/4th view.

No one has REALLY done this before, to this degree. Even great Guardian Heroes and Shadow over Mystara both have their methods tied closer to Arcade Roots, with their approach to play-through length.

This game has all the Mini-games and underlying systems of an RPG, too, which neither of it's earlier brothers attempted to a similar level.

In a way, it's a Console-focused take on the formula and ideas set up by Dungeon Fighter Online / Dungeon and Fighter, taken to the next level. That sounds like the PERFECT game to me, so I really hope it find success, in the gamers eye, and in the minds of game designers the world over.
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In rpgs there are lots of dialogues, but i think that most of the time is still occupied by fights, dragon's crown will be obviously more fight oriented, but it has all the other features of an rpg like dialogues, quests, town, shops etc.

About arcade rpgs, i recently discovered this on youtube that looks more "rpg"(but still not a real rpg) than d&d games and guardian heroes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSCpf1SEb78
 
Hasemo said:
Ryouga Saotome, Jonnyram, Expel, DJ Mizuhara, Kyoufu (these 2 plan on streaming it) and me.
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Me as well.

2+2=5 said:
In rpgs there are lots of dialogues, but i think that most of the time is still occupied by fights, dragon's crown will be obviously more fight oriented, but it has all the other features of an rpg like dialogues, quests, town, shops etc.

About arcade rpgs, i recently discovered this on youtube that looks more "rpg"(but still not a real rpg) than d&d games and guardian heroes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSCpf1SEb78
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Haha, I knew it would be this game just going by your description. I played a lot of that game on Taito Legends 2. Great god damn game.
 
2+2=5 said:
In rpgs there are lots of dialogues, but i think that most of the time is still occupied by fights, dragon's crown will be obviously more fight oriented, but it has all the other features of an rpg like dialogues, quests, town, shops etc.

About arcade rpgs, i recently discovered this on youtube that looks more "rpg"(but still not a real rpg) than d&d games and guardian heroes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSCpf1SEb78
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RPGs are funny, in that they have simple battle systems, but you spend a LOT of time with them. And yet, somehow, that's never held against them too strongly. I guess the scale of their attacks helps much, though; you won't see Neo-Bahamut popping up in any normal BEU!

And Ahhh, Dungeon Magic... yeah, I played that Co-Op with brother a few years back, on the Taito Collection. It felt a bit slower than I wished, but what a great idea! The floating platforms, need to move and use boxes to jump higher, and trap-filled stages make me feel like it's an arcade-born version of Landstalker or Beyond Oasis, with a flashier, multiplayer battle system.
 
Karsticles said:
Can you tell us how many stages there are total?
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The Atlus guys that did the E3 stage demo said there were "9 main stages". The most recent Japanese trailer also says there's a "chaotic maze" type dungeon. Most people I've seen speculate that it'll be a randomly generated dungeon/stage that gets harder the deeper you go in, with loot increasing in value the deeper you go as well.
 
AmethystEnd said:
The Atlus guys that did the E3 stage demo said there were "9 main stages". The most recent Japanese trailer also says there's a "chaotic maze" type dungeon. Most people I've seen speculate that it'll be a randomly generated dungeon/stage that gets harder the deeper you go in, with loot increasing in value the deeper you go as well.
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I hope this is true. Endless modes really add a lot of replayability, especially in MP.
 
Quixzlizx said:
I hope this is true. Endless modes really add a lot of replayability, especially in MP.
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Yeah. My Japanese isn't 100% and I can't watch the trailer again right now (I'm at work) but the narrator for sure said "konton no meikyuu" regarding the extra dungeon (she also says the words "extra dungeon") which pretty literally means "maze of chaos".

I really hope the "of chaos" implies randomly generated/endless.
 
twentytwo22 said:
Not sure if it has been posted anywhere yet, but the PS3 version is ~1.5GB, and the Vita version is ~1.1GB.
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KDash31987 said:
Also, it seems the file sizes for the downloadable versions are out. PlayStation 3 version is 1.5GB, and the Vita version is 1.1GB. The info supposedly comes from the Japanese PlayStation Store.
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It was, but a reminder is always nice, plus people who missed it before can get the info.

2+2=5 said:
About arcade rpgs, i recently discovered this on youtube that looks more "rpg"(but still not a real rpg) than d&d games and guardian heroes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSCpf1SEb78
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Great game, though I don't remember if it's really all that RPG heavy, as it's been like 5 years since I last played through it. All I remember was beating people down. Hah. Maybe I'll play through it again today.


Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the extra randomly-generated dungeon was confirmed ages ago as an unlockable after you beat the main game.

SolidSnakex said:
4gamer posted a 4 player co-op video from Evo

http://www.4gamer.net/games/134/G013480/20130716042/
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I need one of those crowns. Haha.
 
From what I understand this is designed to be a multiplayer game. What if you play single-player? Do you get AI allies or can you just go it alone?
 
Himself said:
OK, cool. It just seems like the type of game that's only worth playing co-op. Sadly co-op games are basically disposable after the community dies a month or two later.
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I suspect this community might be more robust than others, just looking at the amount (and quality) of fan art that's been produced over the two years since the game was announced. People are pretty eager for this game.

All that matters now is how much content there is, how replayable it is, and how much post-release support Atlus and Vanillaware are going to provide. I'd love to see DLC "modules" come out every 6 months or so with new story, levels, weapons, spells, and character palettes. S1, just sayin'.
 
Caerith said:
I suspect this community might be more robust than others, just looking at the amount (and quality) of fan art that's been produced over the two years since the game was announced. People are pretty eager for this game.

All that matters now is how much content there is, how replayable it is, and how much post-release support Atlus and Vanillaware are going to provide. I'd love to see DLC "modules" come out every 6 months or so with new story, levels, weapons, spells, and character palettes. S1, just sayin'.
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All it needs are [sexy] themed DLC costumes for the female characters.

- Nurse
- Teacher
- Devil/Angel
- Swimsuit
- etc.

People Males would be playing the game for years!
 
For DLC, I'd prefer to see former Vanillaware (and ____ Crown) heroes find their way into the game, with their own move-sets.

Bonus Palettes / Alt. Character designs / Stage packs would all be welcome too.

But I guess first thing is First... then need to get to work on Muramasa Rebirth's DLC! So... yeah. Will wait to see how that starts to turn out, first.
 
chrono01 said:
All it needs are [sexy] themed DLC costumes for the female characters.

- Nurse
- Teacher
- Devil/Angel
- Swimsuit
- etc.

People Males would be playing the game for years!
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Why for just the female characters? I'm sure nobody would mind seeing the Dwarf in a swimsuit (and I imagine the Fighter would wear his trunks outside his armor).

SAB CA said:
For DLC, I'd prefer to see former Vanillaware (and ____ Crown) heroes find their way into the game, with their own move-sets.

Bonus Palettes / Alt. Character designs / Stage packs would all be welcome too.

But I guess first thing is First... then need to get to work on Muramasa Rebirth's DLC! So... yeah. Will wait to see how that starts to turn out, first.
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Gwyndolin would be a welcome addition, but I'd love to see them release Dragon's Crown: Tomb of Horrors. (
In before homonyms.
)

Qvoth said:
wow that's really low considering it's famitsu
atlus never moneyhatted them or what?
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Index is in no position to moneyhat lately.
 
Caerith said:
Why for just the female characters? I'm sure nobody would mind seeing the Dwarf in a swimsuit (and I imagine the Fighter would wear his trunks outside his armor).
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I am sorry to neglect all of the ladies out there.

Fine, the males of Dragon's Crown can get DLC-specific content of their own. Let it be so, Vanillaware.
 
Binabik15 said:
I was just looking for it on Zavvi, because of the pic with the 64 page art book made me want to preorder instead of waiting for a bomba price, then I remembered.

Feels bad, man.
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From Polygon.

- Dragon's Crown (9/8/9/9, 35 points): Vanillaware's latest action game - which has gotten as much press coverage for its skin-tastic fantasy pinup art as for its gameplay - is finally out on PS3 and Vita in Japan. "The unique graphics and world setting are really charming," Ebihara wrote. "From the random equipment drops that give you assorted effects to the freedom you get in learning new skills, there's a ton of gameplay depth to explore if you're into it. Controlling the finger cursor is a bit annoying in the PS3 version, but it's a lot easier to keep track of where you are, even if there are tons of foes around."

Multiple reviewers complained about having to use the PS3's right stick to control the cursor, suggesting that the Vita may have been the lead platform for Dragon's Crown. Honma didn't let that bother her too much, however: "The high-fantasy story almost has a nostalgic feel to it, but the action you get to experience is really cool and the controls are top-notch. The narration also provides you with this experience like you're playing a table RPG or a gamebook, which is strangely novel. Multiplay is chaotic and you tend to lose your character a lot, but as a party game it's a great package."

The Vita version received the same score, even though it had some of its own issues. "In the PS Vita version, it's easy to lose track of your position if you're surrounded by enemies, but the touch controls are really comfortable," Ebihara said. "It does take some time before multiplayer is made available, but once you're in, you'll definitely want to gather up stronger equipment and keep playing."
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Non issues for me.
 
rockman zx said:
From Polygon.



Non issues for me.
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If those are the biggest issues they have, that says a lot about the overall quality of the game. On the other hand, I don't hold Famitsu reviews in a very high regard. Still, I'm hyped.

You should probably link the source of that article though.
 
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