El-Pistolero
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Definitely downsampled footage. The IQ is too good to be true.
New Driveclub gameplay
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AyaisMUsikWhore
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This game is just so realistically good looking. Sometimes I really try to remind myself it's a game and not real life. I really just want this game to be good.
Coolbgdog12
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I've been shamelessly checking this thread non stop all day. I'm waiting for the "GUYS I WENT TO TARGET AND IT'S ON SALE!!!!" posts or something.
Is this confirmed gameplay?? It seriously looks TOO good. If this is the final game I'm buying day 1.
gundamkyoukai
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The Photo mode thread for this game going to be huge and when weather comes it going to be crazy .
Can't wait for it .
Can't wait for it .
No fucking way that's real gameplay. It can't be, right? Holy fucking shit. I mean how is that even possible?
ninjablade
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Chance Hale
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I thought the same thing about console games until I played Forza Horizon 2. Still not perfect, but it's so much better than 99% of console games that it's a revelation. You can still see aliasing in those videos so hopefully it's not!
Only Rushy can answer this for now unfortunately. Unless there are some experts here who understand this stuff and can for sure say one way or another. Damn that IQ is another level if this footage is raw gameplay and legit.
FH2 and Infamous SS have some of the best IQ of current gen games. Every game should aspire for that kind of IQ
We'll probably have to wait for reviews or release. The Digital Foundry article should be interesting to read if Evo really are using something like a half dozen AA solutions.
sankt-Antonio
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Not always.
Which is why I think it requires the player to look away from the road using the right stick, thereby adding an element of risk, like in a real racing situation.
Pure conjecture at this point.
Did Evo match the Motorstorm CG reveal trailer with this? Because i think they might did...
Citizen_Insane
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Nope, I refuse to believe. Driveclub has blown me away every single time I've seen it, but this looks too good. Even for Driveclub. The IQ is just ridiculous. That last one in particular is gorgeous.
People said the same about official screenshots for InFamous: Second Son and then everyone started posting their very own direct feed shots, which looked even better.
IAmRandom31
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They already said they do during a DF interview they did. A lot of different mixtures of AA to tackle various things. Along with information that they were adding another full layer of AA to go ontop of everything else to clean it up even more.
The retail version would be the first time seeing that. Which could account for what we are seeing now.
Just watching these clips for the first time on my TV.
HOLY.SHIT
SolidSnakex
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They actually mentioned their AA solutions in an interview that they did with DigitalFoundry
And DF analyzed a build, which I believe was four months old at the time, and said that it already had some of the best IQ on the PS4
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-hands-on-with-driveclub
Yes, the free DLC tracks will be from at least one new location.
Electret
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The IQ is unreal.
I noticed an interesting detail, though, in this clip.
Look at the rear view mirror. See the bottom right portion where the boundary between the vehicle body and the rear mirror is? I see significant aliasing that varies temporally at that border. That, to me, would indicate that this footage is not supersampled and is in-game.
Just to clarify in case it's not obvious (though I hope it is): I'm not concern trolling or nit-picking. I'm pointing out this flaw as a testament to how damn good this game looks and as a possible indication that this is legitimate non-downsampled footage.
Edit: same deal with the side mirror. Heavy aliasing in its reflected image.
I noticed an interesting detail, though, in this clip.
Look at the rear view mirror. See the bottom right portion where the boundary between the vehicle body and the rear mirror is? I see significant aliasing that varies temporally at that border. That, to me, would indicate that this footage is not supersampled and is in-game.
Just to clarify in case it's not obvious (though I hope it is): I'm not concern trolling or nit-picking. I'm pointing out this flaw as a testament to how damn good this game looks and as a possible indication that this is legitimate non-downsampled footage.
Edit: same deal with the side mirror. Heavy aliasing in its reflected image.
BiGBoSSMk23
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Makes me sad thinking the chances of seeing Motorstorm PS4 are riding on this game's success...
Citizen_Insane
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Yeah, I see the aliasing. But my eyes still can't believe what I'm seeing. There's no way this is the real game, right?
Kssio_Aug
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I've read a impression on same pages ago, and it seems to be good! If it plays as good as it looks, then I will be very happy with racing game this year: Forza Horizon 2 + DriveClub is huge combo of racing games!
ninjablade
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I agree with you. still driveclub is easily the most next gen looking games so far based on that footage.
PlayALLtheGames
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This looks crazy. The lighting and atmosphere is perfect.
Another game with peerless IQ on consoles is Order 1886. Honestly you could pause the demo at any moment and it will make for a perfect screenshot. I was blown away with the IQ when I played the demo.
Yup. Should be super interesting!
Yup. Should be super interesting!
Yep, I remember that article, I'd just like clarification on how many different methods are actually being used. It sounded like they were using four already and had planned on adding another, but you could also interpret it as five going on six. And of course, I would really like more light shed on the specifics of each, except perhaps FXAA.
As a Motorstorm fan, I'm convinced that the unfortunate timing of the M:A delay killed the series right then and there. As much as I usually hate open-world racing games, I would absolutely love to see a Motorstorm title adopt that format with insane levels of deformation, both for vehicles and terrain. Sadly, I don't see that happening. I hope I'm wrong, but I think the best case scenario is another Driveclub title, with the worst case being the closure of the studio. I really, really hope the latter of the two never happens, but Sony has killed studios we all love before.
flipswitch
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Looks super-sampled to me, can't make out any aliasing whatsoever. I believe the game won't look THAT clean but still will have good image quality. We don't have much longer to wait and see, plus Evo are still working on patches so it could reach close to that level in the future.
flipswitch
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That reflected mirror image could be rendered at a lower res hence the aliasing.
Evo should be commended.
I am now extremely excited to see how that new GG IP looks, along with U4.
Do most of us a favour and just f**k right off. Cheers
How do you spot a downsample via pixel counting? Honest question.
Ha! Dude, just change his quote to something better.
Played it at the Tour To Greatness thing in Houston. I was actually in a 5 people time trial to win a Vita and thanks to GAF I actually already knew the track and the nature of the colored flags and braking. I got to the 74% mark of the race and was actually tied with the winner. But then I brutally bumped the back end of my car into a straightaway while trying to brake coming out of a turn (don't do this), spun out, then lost a good 15 seconds getting back on track. I lost to some guy in a Destiny tshirt, Delsin Rowe jacket and multiple PlayStation lanyards. Soooo, I hope that guy enjoys his Vita that I was gonna give to my Nintendo friend if I won. Booooo.
Anyway. The game felt like it was saying. GO FAST. NOW GO FASTER! BRAKE YOU IDIOT OR YOU'LL CRASH!
I've only played so many racing games and the last one I played going at at such high speeds was Burnout Paradise so I have few comparisons but this one was truly exhilarating. It was better the second time when I went into cockpit view which was disorienting in the best way possible. I massively enjoyed it. I just... Can't wait to play my copy. It's gonna get tens of hours of playtime out of me.
Anyway. The game felt like it was saying. GO FAST. NOW GO FASTER! BRAKE YOU IDIOT OR YOU'LL CRASH!
I've only played so many racing games and the last one I played going at at such high speeds was Burnout Paradise so I have few comparisons but this one was truly exhilarating. It was better the second time when I went into cockpit view which was disorienting in the best way possible. I massively enjoyed it. I just... Can't wait to play my copy. It's gonna get tens of hours of playtime out of me.
DOWN
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Rushy can't answer that because number one that would be moronic PR and number two, he doesn't know who produced the video he said.
And we can see some aliasing, so it's hard to say if it's down sampled.
The only guys who could downsampling the game are evolution themselves... So if Rushy doesn't know from where the footage comes...
viveks86
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Pixel counting itself may not tell you anything. But pixel counters always seem to find the little details that enable them to pixel count in the first place. I mean, I'd never have been able to do this analysis for UC4.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-watch-uncharted-4-and-the-last-of-us-at-60-fps
You just need an eye tuned for it, I guess. Not "I believe it's downsampled because it's too good to be true"
That's interesting, I'd love to know exactly what they look for and would assume it's at the sub-pixel level? Whatever the case, I do wonder if the small amount of aliasing we've seen (especially at the back end of the BAC Mono) and the general blurriness of the power lines is enough to suggest a very good series of AA solutions as opposed to downsampling. And I can't say it enough how much I'm looking forward to the full DF analysis on Driveclub.
It probably won't.
viveks86
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Depends on when it comes out. Bear in mind that it isn't even 1 year since the new gen consoles have been out.
Me too. It's fascinating to see how these techniques evolve over time.
flipswitch
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At 60fps? Don't think so, but it will have other benefits.
ninjablade
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We might not think so now, but we thought the same thing many times before lastgen, ps4 is like 10x more powerful then ps3 , does driveclub look 10x better then GT6, probably in looks but not when you factor in its 30 fps.
Yeah, I remember when AA on consoles was rare and never imagined we'd be playing a game utilizing such a large number of AA solutions this gen, let alone within the first year. Good times!
I think that's largely dependent on how much work can be unloaded using compute. It's possible we won't see another Gran Turismo until the back end of 2016, which is a lot of time to refine an engine and come to grips with the hardware. I have to believe Sony will do everything it can to ensure Polyphony wows us again, if only to bring those of us that have grown weary of GT back into the fold.
gundamkyoukai
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Same i know PD going to have the cars and lighting great but what make DC awesome is also the backgrounds, sense of speed and sound and PD have to really work on those things .
Lets hope DC helps give them a kicks in the ass still some tracks in real life rather boring and bland so i don't expect all of them to be great looking in GT7 .