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New Incredibles Trailer

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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Looks good. Nice to finally hear Jason Lee's voice. I'm so there opening weekend.
 

hiryu

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Wow! just wow. I can't wait. This movie will be 10 times the super hero movie that the Fantastic Four will be.
 

Timbuktu

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Wow. just wow. Finally, there's a trailer that shows Brad Bird's spirit from Iron Giant in The Incredibles. The action stuff shown before all looked great, but after this I see a film that can potentially surpass all previous Pixar films, and the first animated feature with human characters at its centre since Aladdin that is any decent.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Timbuktu said:
The action stuff shown before all looked great, but after this I see a film that can potentially surpass all previous Pixar films, and the first animated feature with human characters at its centre since Aladdin that is any decent.
The Triplets of Belleville wants to disagree. The Iron Giant too.
 

Timbuktu

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Dan said:
The Triplets of Belleville wants to disagree. The Iron Giant too.

Sorry, I was only thinking of Disney films then. I think with The Iron Giant, it was the Giant that was the most touching, rather than the boy he befriended, although he was really well done too. But with The Aladdin, Triplets of Belleville, The Iron Giant and now The Incredibles, there's something about the characters being cartoony rather than realistic like Pocahontas or Final Fantasy that allows to succeed with human characters? I think the creators of these films all realise that it's not having realistic proportions but how they move and behave that make human characters credible. Does it mean an animation with realistic looking humans would never garner the same sort of success?
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Well, aren't there all kinds of studies that show as things like robots or CGI humans become more realistically 'human' that people become increasingly put off by them? Yeah, I don't think the answer is going more realistic per se, I think finding a style and being consistent within that is what's important. Make them relatable with movements and action, but don't attempt to be identical. The attempt to be too real is often cited as a key reason that people didn't go see Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
 

Timbuktu

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Dan, I assume you're the GAF animation expert? 'cause every time I make a post about animation, you're the first one to reply.

I don't know why people treated realism as the holy grail. We have real actors for looking like real human beings, animation should use its strength and do things other formats can't do. Miyasaki does realism sometimes, they sure are impressive in their detail, but they aren't memorable because of that. Anyways, The Incredibles seem to have many serious themes. It's about family, obviously, and it seems be about fitting in, being normal, potentials and dreams, growing up and responsibility, coping with change and middle-age crisis as well. It weird the Jp trailer is called 'Mr. Incredible' though, when its 'The Incredibles' in English.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
I'm not an expert (yet?) but I'm just a big fan of what animation can accomplish as opposed to live action cinema. I'm just enthusiastic about the possibilities animation presents, and I'm continually amazed at the art people can produce when I couldn't draw anything if my life depended on it.

Yeah, I don't really get the stress on realism. Just because it's more technologically advanced and more detailed doesn't mean it's more effective at telling a story. It might tickle some tech geeks to watch, but who would want animation if it ends up looking like live action? Just seems pointless.

About the Japanese title for the movie, I think we'll have to wait and see just how much it focuses on the family as a whole or the father specifically. It might be fairly even so that either title is appropriate.
 

FightyF

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Maybe I'm looking into it a bit too much, or perhaps I'm imagining things, but do you notice a bit of camera shake on most of the still shots? Maybe they are trying to make the camera behave more realistically?
 

Memles

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I was kind of let down by Triplettes...it was good and all, but not really as good as I was expecting. Kind of stark for me.

The American trailer sucks pretty well compared to these...can't wait, less than four weeks!

And yes, FfF, I think they will likely be filming this very closely to a real motion picture...because it's the closest thing to on they have made.

It isn't about bugs, or toys, or fish...this is about superheros. The camera work has to be able to see action of humans, or fight scenes, and to do this I think it is incredibly important to move the camera as if it were a live action film.
 

Timbuktu

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Memles said:
It isn't about bugs, or toys, or fish...this is about superheros. The camera work has to be able to see action of humans, or fight scenes, and to do this I think it is incredibly important to move the camera as if it were a live action film.

Yeah, cause if you think about it, Pixar doesn't have any limitations with the camera. Doing bullet time, or having the camera zipping through traffic like in the Matrix or Bad Boys II car chase scenes are all the same for them, but they still stick to traditional camera movements, and wisely so. Camera shake doesn't happen in most Hollywood live action films, but it does add to the realism and places the audience closer to the action, as in Blair Witch.
 

karasu

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Camera shake doesn't happen in most Hollywood live action films

Are you kidding? Shaky Cam, extreme close ups, and fast cuts are the rules in modern Hollywood Action Films. It's why they suck.
 
Yea, camera shake isn't just the jarring, handheld-like quality that Blair Witch had. It can also just be a very subtle shake of the camera as a scene is shot. Technically, this subtle shake wouldn't be in an animated film, but adding it makes the shots feel more human than mechanical.
 
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