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New Ricky Gervis Netflix special. Reaction on social media predictable.

The criticisms are always so cheap. "He's attacking trans people!"

No. Gervais, Chappelle, and others are not making fun of trans people. They're making fun of radical trans activists. There's a big difference between:

(1) a decent human being unfortunately afflicted with gender dysphoria, just trying to make sense of it and live his/her life as happily as possible;
(2) someone (who may or may not even have gender dysphoria and is just an opportunist, an asshole, or, yes, even mental health issues) screeching on social media about how everyone else must cater to their world view. And how this stuff must be taught to children. Otherwise you're a bigot and a transphobe and we must shame you publicly.

Comedians are making fun of #2. They are NOT making fun of #1. I mean, this difference was explicitly made in Chappelle's previous special.

To me, Chappelle's Daphne story remains the most touching and human story I have heard in all of stand up comedy, ever.
 

John Bilbo

Member
I had a chuckle and forgot about my own problems for an hour while watching this.

Season 9 Premiere GIF by Curb Your Enthusiasm
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
There are posts all over social media whining about him talking about being an atheist.
Post on social media vs news articles? One does not equal the other. Ricky has been an atheist for a long time. Besides that there are plenty of left wing religious types. Dude is reaching like hell.
 
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FunkMiller

Member
Post on social media vs news articles? One does not equal the other. Ricky has been an atheist for a long time. Besides that there are plenty of left wing religious types. Dude is reaching like hell.

I know you only want to see it as the left wing getting their panties in a bunch because of the things he says, but it's both sides. Which is exactly what he wants. Ricky is a believer in science and rationality, and he's been triggering people who try to ignore/deny both for years now.
 
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OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
I know you only want to see it as the left wing getting their panties in a bunch because of the things he says, but it's both sides. Which is exactly what he wants. Ricky is a believer in science and rationality, and he's been triggering people who try to ignore both for years now.
I'm not seeing the both sides here. A few mad people on YouTube comments does not equal articles. That's my point. He's been an out atheist for many years. You're also ignoring the fact that many people on the left are also religious.
 

FunkMiller

Member
I'm not seeing the both sides here. A few mad people on YouTube comments does not equal articles. That's my point. He's been an out atheist for many years. You're also ignoring the fact that many people on the left are also religious.

Believe what you want, dude. If you want to convince yourself that right wing religious people aren't as up in arms about Ricky's opinions as left wing trans activists, then there's nothing I can do to convince you otherwise.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Has the other place declared a fatwa on him yet?
Season 9 Hbo GIF by Curb Your Enthusiasm

No. Surprisingly they are being pretty level headed about it. They accept that sometimes comedians will take a standpoint they don't agree with, and are just content to not watch his material, which is their choice as -

...ha. Just kidding. It's a dumpster fire of hate and bile, directed at someone who has the gall to state that sex is a scientific reality.
 
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OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Believe what you want, dude. If you want to convince yourself that right wing religious people aren't as up in arms about Ricky's opinions as left wing trans activists, then there's nothing I can do to convince you otherwise.
You could convince me with proof. Like any.
 

AV

We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Is he seriously still doing atheist bits? Fuck me. I'm an atheist and I'm so bored of hearing it.

We get it, Ricky. You've been doing the same joke for what feels like decades. There was one in After Life that seriously implied "well who made god then?!" was some sort of galaxy brain argument he'd written recently.
 

kurisu_1974

Member
There was one in After Life that seriously implied "well who made god then?!" was some sort of galaxy brain argument he'd written recently.

Sometimes you have to stoop to their level to try and activate their lazy brains.
 
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AV

We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Sometimes you have to stoop to their level to try and activate their lazy brains.

It was so cringeworthy. Camera literally panned to someone raising their eyebrows and smirking as if to say "isn't that an amazing argument"?

I've always thought Gervais was massively overrated as a comic and that's a key reason why, he's been doing the same "material" for so long.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
A comedian with his best years behind him leaps onto a bandwagon to get cheap publicly. Getting cancelled all the way to the bank. Dangerous Orwellian thought police, stuffing his trousers with money.

Their success at cancelling matters less to me than their desire to shut down peoples free speech because they don't like what jokes they tell or what opinions they hold.

Anyone, irrespective of their political affiliation running this playbook is the enemy.
 

ShadowNate

Member
Ricky is an established comedian, and most of the stuff he's in he's actually created himself. He can say the things that other people are afraid to say because their carreers would be ruined by lunatic mobs.

He also is not hopping on any bandwagon, he's been quite open on where he stands on the extreme views of trans activists and idiotic takes like Rowllings bad, burn Harry Potter books, have a male swimmer amongst female competitors etc.

I am unsure if it's the first of his stand up he addresses this, but at this point if you expect a stand up comedian to ignore the big elephant of the times and social media, which is that everyone is labelled some phobic, terf, bigot just for offering their opinion, well then you're setting up yourself to be very annoyed attending standups.
 

Turnt

Member
I remember indignant leftie people posting this in response to Gervais, until some of Frankie’s own jokes were relayed to them 😂
Yeh Boyle jokes about all sorts. Just a couple minutes earlier in that show he talked about the response he got about his jokes about the Paralympics and then goes into the part talking about lazy culture war comedy

 
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DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
The criticisms are always so cheap. "He's attacking trans people!"

No. Gervais, Chappelle, and others are not making fun of trans people. They're making fun of radical trans activists. There's a big difference between:

(1) a decent human being unfortunately afflicted with gender dysphoria, just trying to make sense of it and live his/her life as happily as possible;
(2) someone (who may or may not even have gender dysphoria and is just an opportunist, an asshole, or, yes, even mental health issues) screeching on social media about how everyone else must cater to their world view. And how this stuff must be taught to children. Otherwise you're a bigot and a transphobe and we must shame you publicly.

Comedians are making fun of #2. They are NOT making fun of #1. I mean, this difference was explicitly made in Chappelle's previous special.

To me, Chappelle's Daphne story remains the most touching and human story I have heard in all of stand up comedy, ever.
Good points, but you missed the obvious one. Making fun of something is not "attacking" it. They use this disingenuous language for a reason. The word attack sounds violent. It sounds vicious. It sounds mean spirited. Because it is. But a joke isn't an attack. Running on stage with a knife and assaulting a comedian... that's an attack. People use that hyperbolic language to be able to cry victim, and also it will justify a violent response in return. "Comedian X attacked us, so we attack him!"

Yeah, but one is hurting an individual, and the other comes from a place of love and trying to make the world a better place through laughter.

But congrats to the activists for watering down these phobia terms so much that no one even pays attention to them anymore, so that when real hate occurs, it doesn't get addressed. Activists do a billion times more damage to these communities than comedians have ever done.
 

Wildebeest

Member
Their success at cancelling matters less to me than their desire to shut down peoples free speech because they don't like what jokes they tell or what opinions they hold.

Anyone, irrespective of their political affiliation running this playbook is the enemy.
None of these people care about free speech. It is always about promoting something or getting some scrap of attention.
 

Kraz

Banned
His disclaimer afterwards as a supporter of human rights didn't seem tongue in cheek. His jokes seemed part of the acceptable discourse and to me seemed indirectly aimed at slower people coming to terms with these ideas about the gendered self while making fun of some of the most difficult practical problems in the real world.
 

MikeM

Member
All religions or just Christianity/Mormonism? I thought their types do come to the defence of Islam with accusations of Islamophobia.
I can’t wait to die so I can see if there are different lineups to be assessed based on your religion.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
I like the stance Netflix took recently. I think it was Netflix. They were like we are going to put stuff on this platform that some employees may not like and if that’s a problem you don’t have to work here. Really the only sane way we can do discourse in the world. If people don’t like something they have every right not to watch it, not to work at companies that host it, etc.

Ricky is a hilarious dude. I actually think he’s funnier off the cuff than his standup is. Tim Dillon is similar in that regard. But Ricky has had some hilarious stand up bits. His stuff in religion is hilarious and his Terrence Higgins leaflet bit was great.
 

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
All religions or just Christianity/Mormonism? I thought their types do come to the defence of Islam with accusations of Islamophobia.

All religions except Islam. For some reason Islam is even higher in their 'sacred' list than LGBTQs. Nope, cant say a single word criticizing that barbaric medieval religion. You can shit on Christians, Hindus, Buddhists etc. all day long though.
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
Love it, keep it coming until people realize cutting your dick doesn’t make you special, you’re just a another dickless person sorry.

All religions except Islam. For some reason Islam is even higher in their 'sacred' list than LGBTQs. Nope, cant say a single word criticizing that barbaric medieval religion. You can shit on Christians, Hindus, Buddhists etc. all day long though.

So true, fuck their made up reality.
 
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Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
All religions except Islam. For some reason Islam is even higher in their 'sacred' list than LGBTQs. Nope, cant say a single word criticizing that barbaric medieval religion. You can shit on Christians, Hindus, Buddhists etc. all day long though.
The left is very cool with Buddhism but I can sort of understand why. I guess they're neutral these days on Judaism but since Jews are historically the most oppressed of the three Abrahamic groups, they tread a careful line on that and are usually more about shitting on Israel than the religion itself.

At the end of the day, it's mostly just Christians they hate.
 
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Fbh

Member
Watched half of it during lunch break and it wasn't that good IMO.
It's not bad but it retreats of a lot of familiar ground from his previous special.

Will watch the rest when I get home
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Watched it. Not his best, but still good.

Humanity was a lot better. In fact, this new show felt like it was knocked together with material taken out of humanity.

Hoping Armageddon has some fresh material.
 

sankt-Antonio

:^)--?-<
I'm not seeing the both sides here. A few mad people on YouTube comments does not equal articles. That's my point. He's been an out atheist for many years. You're also ignoring the fact that many people on the left are also religious.
Where is the distinction between Vaerity articles or Twitter posts? It’s not like the New York Times is putting this front page. It’s all done to generate clicks.
 
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