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New Saint's Row 360 screens

Trustus Jones said:
I doubt it. None of rockstars games look that great in the graphics department, but then again they were having to code them round the ps2 :D

Correction, they had to code their games around renderware. Anyhow, I would think they would license UE 3 or an equivalent this time around.
 
nathkenn said:
Where do you people derive your expectations from?

Marvelling at the ffvii realtime city demo with realistic clothes simulations on all characters, and superb look on h/w that is substantially inferior to final h/w. Also the Heavenly Sword demo (read deano's comments). Oh, and let's not mention the realtime ps3 Getaway demo using ps2 assets and running mostly(or entirely?) off the cell-cpu(If my memory doesn't trick me that was more impressive than this) :lol ...

With next.gen h/w throwing 100s of characters on large open environments(see the lair demo, getaway demo or Heavenly Sword demo) does not mean that we get sht gphx. There's a thing called LOD.

Someone should post some pics to refresh everyone's memories.


Seeing stuff like gundam and koei demos, and the rockstar western demo, make me believe GTA stands more than a fair chance of being UBER in the gphx. dept.
 
The GOOD:

Draw Distance
Shadows (on every freaking object)

The BAD:
Artstyle
Insanely low poly count on police cars. Honestly, they should be at least GT3/4's low polycount level. Though I honestly think they should be at PGR1 poly count levels, it's probably asking too much for a game on a scale like this.
 
What's so bad about the art style? It looks just like GTA or its other clones. Btw, I think you get to create your own character so the dude in the screens isn't the main character like Tommy or CJ in the GTA series.
 
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Looks pretty flat and just another GTA clone at this point. Could picture this on this Xbox looking good but for Xbox 360 not impressive.
 
Kleegamefan said:
In game footage looks better, but not mind blowing....


NEXT!!

i thought the night fottage looked great with all the lighting... and cops exploding :lol

but yeah, frame city looks a lot better, and its scope (size of the city, #of objects/people) looks MUCH higher too.
 
The ingame footage looks great actually.

Technically the game looks spectacular. I don't see how people can diss it in that regard. (unless they are victims of diminishing returns) It's just the art looks bland.

Controls wise, it's what GTA needs to be. An FPS (in terms of control) in 3rd person in a huge city.

The physics...incredibly awesome!
 
Barnimal said:
ok finally home. how does this NOT look next gen? :lol looks great still *whew* cant wait!

It certainly looks better than xbox, but it looks like a PC game. Before you call bullshit, consider that it was running on a g5 with an x800 at playable framerates, meaning it could indeed run just fine on a PC.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
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and why is that cop on the left about to throw his gun?

Oh Shit! :lol

Look at the WAY he throws it though. Damn these screens are hilarious. Bad art direction in hi-def is like poison to the eyes.
 
sangreal said:
It certainly looks better than xbox, but it looks like a PC game. Before you call bullshit, consider that it was running on a g5 with an x800 at playable framerates, meaning it could indeed run just fine on a PC.

hmmm...let me clue you in on something about next gen and i've been saying this far before e3(http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=46323&highlight=difference)...both ps3 and 360 games are all gonna look like PC games!!!. they are both based on PC architecture and in my eyes no NOTHING more than add some more polys, better lighting, shadowing, texture resolution/screen rez and particle effects. thats it! the first gen of games especially will look like PC games. until devs start grasping what they couldnt do on a PC because of an OS and a slew of configuration we arent gonna see any huge leap at all.
 
As GTA is impressive for this gen in matter of graphic achievement, i guess this game is setting to achieve pretty much the same for next gen.
Those graphics are just as different from "easier on the GPU/CPU" games than GTA is different than current top looking games.
And also, just as GTA, i suppose the graphics of the games will be bashed and not put in context of what the game is actually doing.
 
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saints row looks pretty good, but unreal engine can do a very nice gta scale game (even if this one has questionable art). hope rockstar licenses this tech :)
 
Barnimal said:
hmmm...let me clue you in on something about next gen and i've been saying this far before e3(http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=46323&highlight=difference)...both ps3 and 360 games are all gonna look like PC games!!!. they are both based on PC architecture and in my eyes no NOTHING more than add some more polys, better lighting, shadowing, texture resolution/screen rez and particle effects. thats it! the first gen of games especially will look like PC games. until devs start grasping what they couldnt do on a PC because of an OS and a slew of configuration we arent gonna see any huge leap at all.


Yet there are some games on X360(PGR3, Madden) that don't look look like barely upgraded PC games.....imagine that?


Dont even get me started on the FF7, Fight Night and Lair demos on PS3.....guess I missed all the PC games that looked like this.....
 
I have faith in volition they make some pretty good games. If they can outdo Rockstar more props to them, they deserve some success.
 
Barnimal said:
hmmm...let me clue you in on something about next gen and i've been saying this far before e3(http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=46323&highlight=difference)...both ps3 and 360 games are all gonna look like PC games!!!. they are both based on PC architecture and in my eyes no NOTHING more than add some more polys, better lighting, shadowing, texture resolution/screen rez and particle effects. thats it! the first gen of games especially will look like PC games. until devs start grasping what they couldnt do on a PC because of an OS and a slew of configuration we arent gonna see any huge leap at all.

what the hell are you talking about, "both based on PC architecture"? Do you even know what you're talking about?
 
yeah i dont get what people want exactly. i dont want some realistic looking game like driver 3 x20. i wanted GTA with a huge city, huge draw distance, great texture detail, hi polycount, resolution and most of all GREAT LOOKING DESTRUCTION. those saying "it looks like a PC game" not everyone has a $1500 PC and a 27 inch monitor and not everyne likes to sit in front of a pc playing games.

I get what ur saying K but those are games that benefit from being on a console. what arcade racers are there on PC? they just dont belobg over there therefore were never made to really take advantage of PC hardware.

how is this not excellent?

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look at the curb. it has rough concrete edges and is textured nicely. look at the buildings. they have protruding ledges and masonwork and textures that actually look like brick. the lampost dont look like they are made of 100 polys but maybe 10 times that. nice shadows too! subtle improvment but nice ones if you ask me. i mean look...

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THATS gta on a PC. HUGE difference.

"what the hell are you talking about, "both based on PC architecture"? Do you even know what you're talking about?"

the parts of the system displaying what you see on the screen are no different than what powers your high end gaming rigs. did i stutter?
 
I can't wait till Rockstar blows this Saint's Row crap right out of the water with the next GTA :lol


Grand Theft Auto - Imitated but never duplicated.
 
Barnimal said:
the parts of the system displaying what you see on the screen are no different than what powers your high end gaming rigs. did i stutter?


Sure, if you say so.
 
Well, of course both the Xbox and Gamecube are also based on PC tech....although Xbox has Doom 3 and Gamecube has Serious Sam, you also saw Ninja Gaiden and Residen Evil 4 too...

Its all about the developer.....I doubt Saints Row will typify "next gen graphics"in my eyes and the "PC tech" card is bullshit....(much) better stuff will come.....
 
Cerrius said:
I can't wait till Rockstar blows this Saint's Row crap right out of the water with the next GTA :lol


Grand Theft Auto - Imitated but never duplicated.

really though, the only games to hae copied gta this gen have been REALLY bad. saints row actually looks like it has a chance of being a better game IMO. that right there is reason enough to get excited for me, since i'm not a fan of a lot of gta's game mechanics...
 
Cerrius said:
I can't wait till Rockstar blows this Saint's Row crap right out of the water with the next GTA :lol


Grand Theft Auto - Imitated but never duplicated.

I really hope for their sakes they can top a 360 launch title with their 2006/7/8 release. :bigfuckingrolleyes:

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Saint's Row beats GTA in the gameplay department. Shouldn't be too hard.
 
Cerrius said:
I can't wait till Rockstar blows this Saint's Row crap right out of the water with the next GTA :lol


Grand Theft Auto - Imitated but never duplicated.

they may and i'll buy that too! i can't wait actually. i mean GTA is by far my most played series this gen but after 3 games the graphics are just worn IMO. if saints row can provide a nice rip off that looks better i'll gladly plunk down $50 for a nice stop gap. Online play too? i'm in. Looking at the pics more the art style really reminds me of the city scenes from "the incredibles"
 
Why do people expect so much out of Rockstar. Its not like they are a technical powerhouse or anything. Didn't all of the GTA games use Renderware? Now that EA has renderware all locked up... hrm, maybe they'll go with UE3 :P
 
PG2G said:
Why do people expect so much out of Rockstar. Its not like they are a technical powerhouse or anything. Didn't all of the GTA games use Renderware? Now that EA has renderware all locked up... hrm, maybe they'll go with UE3 :P

exactly :)
 
Barnimal said:
Looking at the pics more the art style really reminds me of the city scenes from "the incredibles"

*look at screens*
*looks at Incredibles*

Ok, hand over the meth. That shit is dangerous, more people addicted every day.
 
PG2G said:
Well, we all know what GTA-like UE3 games look like :P *thinks Frame City Killers*

pretty fucking incredible technically... right?
 
Barnimal said:
:lol

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look at the background.

No, Barnimal. I don't care if you actually like Saint's Row hideous art, but the style of the visuals look NOTHING like Incredibles in any way. Not the characters, not the backgrounds, not the car wheels, not the light post, not the sidewalk, not the sky, the eyes, the chairs... NOTHING. That is no comparrison to make between the two.
 
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